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#27330 Nov 9, 2012
Arnold-Ziffel wrote:
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Our students have contributed to this program for years. This operation is very good. He needs to get out of partisan politics. He probably loses some potential support due to his extreme political position. Sad, but true. I don't agree with any minister (of either party) being publically involved in the political landscape. And yes, this does include Jeremiah Wright.
I agree with you AZ, I have always found it funny how all politicians seek out religious leaders, to strengthen their voting base. I remember the President's visit with Dr.Graham and then Romney's.

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#27331 Nov 9, 2012
Silvercoastcorks wrote:
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Numbers don't lie Miley.
You draw the wrong conclusions due to numbers that have nothing to do with what is in your biased, racist mind.

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#27332 Nov 9, 2012
Silvercoastcorks wrote:
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Well, that is not what you said Miley. You clearly said, someone else would fill the void.
I can go copy and paste if you need me to.
A company such as GM is not owned by a single disgruntled republican who is going to shut down his company and move.

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#27333 Nov 9, 2012
Pro-American wrote:
<quoted text> No company is "to big to fail".
Well, we can let them fail and suffer the consequences it will have on our economy, or we can help them stay afloat so our economy does not suffer. Take your pick. Those with the most votes wins the pick.

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#27334 Nov 9, 2012
Pro-American wrote:
<quoted text> My bad. It wasn't a flip flop, rather a flat out bold face lie!
By that's what politicians do to get elected, right?
Yes, they do. Welcome to reality. Why do you act as if Obama is the first one to do so?
I await you to tell me a flip flop that matters in the context of our debate.

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#27335 Nov 9, 2012
Silvercoastcorks wrote:
<quoted text>Another example TEW.

"Remember those pre-election promises by employers that their staff will suffer if Obama is re-elected? Well, the workforce trimming has begun.

A Las Vegas business owner told a local radio station that he was forced to let 22 of his employees go the day after Obama won the White House a second time. In a lengthy chat with CBS affiliate 100.5 KXNT, the employer who asked to be called "David" said, quite frankly, that "elections have consequences."

While reassuring listeners that he didn't intimidate his staff into voting any particular way, "David" had no problem admitting that he did, however, spell out what could change around the workplace if Obama won.

"I explained to them a month ago that if Obama gets in office that the regulations for Obamacare are gonna hurt our business," he said. "I explained that to them and I said 'you do what you feel like in your heart you need to do, but I'm just letting you know as a warning, these are things I have to think of as a business owner.'""

http://politix.topix.com/homepage/3321-vegas-...
Keep an eye on the stock market as these announcements and those that have yet to be made will surely cause more sell offs.

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#27336 Nov 9, 2012
Pro-American wrote:
<quoted text> Just pointing out the FACT that when Republicans nominate a moderate, they lose.
Since you're not part of the Republican party, how could you possibly know what they consider moderate?
I am not blind, deaf and dumb. I can see what you guys say, I can see what fox news says, I can hear what Rush says, I can read what facebook says. I can read. I can think. I can put myself in others shoes. Humans have this ability when other animals likely cannot. I suggest your party tries this one day.

What I showed in rebuttal is, one state should not be the end all of a complex subject. I pointed out that your moderates should not have pretended to be non moderates to win the nomination.
You need to nominate a person who is proud to be a moderate. Your party has yet to try this once. Your party keeps making the same mistake over and over again.

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#27337 Nov 9, 2012
Pro-American wrote:
In Barry's victory speech he said, "Tonight, more than 200 years after A FORMER COLONY won the right to determine it's own destiny..."
I guess after growing up as a boy attending muslim schools in Indonesia, then moving to and learning the history of Hawaii, he never bothered to learn AMERICAN history!
I guess he doesn't know how many stripes are on the American Flag and what they represent! But then again, he thought there were 58 stars on the flag also!
Technically America is no longer a colony, so he is factually correct.
Your strategy of branding Obama as a foreigner has failed. It did not win you the presidency. All it does is divide America. It is the fuel of hate.

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#27338 Nov 9, 2012
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>Well, we can let them fail and suffer the consequences it will have on our economy, or we can help them stay afloat so our economy does not suffer. Take your pick. Those with the most votes wins the pick.
Airlines go into bankruptcy periodically and continue to come out leaner and profitable while keeping planes in the skies. Bankruptcy doesn't mean you shut the doors and send everyone home. The auto industry SHOULD have been forced into bankruptcy, restructured, trimmed the fat, becoming profitable again, while producing cars, without help from the taxpayers.
The auto bailout wasn't for the auto companies, rather the UAW to cover union pensions.

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#27339 Nov 9, 2012
The Enemy Within wrote:
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How was it not relevant. Obama does not differ from any other politician. Anyone who can read knows I believe all politicians are corrupt.
Obama has been consistent. He may not have done all that he wanted to do, but that is not the same as changing positions as a platform.

If you guys cannot comprehend this, then prepare to make the same mistake that lost your team the white house this time, next time.

Example. You cannot say one moment, I want to reverse Roe V Wade, then the next moment say, I am not going to reverse Roe V Wade.
This is reversing on a major issue. You just cannot do that.

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#27340 Nov 9, 2012
Pro-American wrote:
<quoted text> Airlines go into bankruptcy periodically and continue to come out leaner and profitable while keeping planes in the skies. Bankruptcy doesn't mean you shut the doors and send everyone home. The auto industry SHOULD have been forced into bankruptcy, restructured, trimmed the fat, becoming profitable again, while producing cars, without help from the taxpayers.
The auto bailout wasn't for the auto companies, rather the UAW to cover union pensions.
This is not entirely true. Many bankruptcies lead to shut downs. Anyone who once had jobs that Bain capital bought out and Bain put into bankruptcies can attest to, as they lost their jobs due to plant closings.

Bankruptcy of such a large company involves government help. As Obama noted in the debates, Mitt openly refused to allow GM any of help in the event of a bankruptcy.

The help is what keeps some of the company from collapsing.

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#27341 Nov 9, 2012
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>Technically America is no longer a colony, so he is factually correct.
Your strategy of branding Obama as a foreigner has failed. It did not win you the presidency. All it does is divide America. It is the fuel of hate.
Correct, we are no longer a colony. Barry said, "after more than 200 years, a colony...". The point being, more than 200 years ago there wasn't one colony, rather thirteen, thus the thirteen stripes on the flag! Barry, although an American citizen, didn't grow up in America, therefore he doesn't know what being an American means. He didn't grow up going to see fireworks on the fourth of July or going to department stores to sit on Santa's lap, etc... He IS an American citizen but he has no American values....and obviously no sense of American history.

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#27342 Nov 9, 2012
Pro-American wrote:
<quoted text> Airlines go into bankruptcy periodically and continue to come out leaner and profitable while keeping planes in the skies. Bankruptcy doesn't mean you shut the doors and send everyone home. The auto industry SHOULD have been forced into bankruptcy, restructured, trimmed the fat, becoming profitable again, while producing cars, without help from the taxpayers.
The auto bailout wasn't for the auto companies, rather the UAW to cover union pensions.
Please do not forget, Bush was in on bank and auto bailouts. It is not as if your party is completely against bailouts. Only the extremest's are. Again, proof extremists are not the way to win the white house.
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#27343 Nov 9, 2012
Where is FEMA? The leader of the Untied Socialist Authority he was supposed to have fixed this. Why are the people in New York suffering in the cold? What happen to the $880 million that has been spent?

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#27344 Nov 9, 2012
The Enemy Within wrote:
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Your exactly right. Last time I looked the top 8 of Forbes richest Americans were democrats.
It's also important to note that they all are in favor of being taxed more but NONE have written a check to the government to put toward the debt.
Because it would not help unless all of their kind did the same.
You guys keep saying this, but it is just stupid because it would not help effectively. It is an extremist position. It is non nonsensical.

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#27345 Nov 9, 2012
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>This is not entirely true. Many bankruptcies lead to shut downs. Anyone who once had jobs that Bain capital bought out and Bain put into bankruptcies can attest to, as they lost their jobs due to plant closings.
Bankruptcy of such a large company involves government help. As Obama noted in the debates, Mitt openly refused to allow GM any of help in the event of a bankruptcy.
The help is what keeps some of the company from collapsing.
Yes, some companies shut the doors but they're not the auto or airline industries.
And that is a bold face lie! Mitt said something to the effect of the govt would assist where needed, especially in covering warranties, etc...

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#27346 Nov 9, 2012
Silvercoastcorks wrote:
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Here here. Instead they keep reading their communist manifesto like good little socialist.
Extremist.

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#27347 Nov 9, 2012
Pro-American wrote:
<quoted text> Over two hundred years ago, we weren't a colony either, rather multiple colonies. I guess you slept through history class.
I'm to busy to watch tv, much less Fox.....but I bet they appreciate you watching.
Pluralizing the word does not change the substance of our point. What was known as colonies are no longer known as such. Thus can be spoken of in the past tense. As in 'former'.
Please learn the language of our land, English.

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#27348 Nov 9, 2012
Pro-American wrote:
<quoted text>Yes, some companies shut the doors but they're not the auto or airline industries.
And that is a bold face lie! Mitt said something to the effect of the govt would assist where needed, especially in covering warranties, etc...
Prove it? Mitt did not challenge Obama on this accusation in the debates, so I assume it is true. But if you can produce evidence to the contrary, I will concede the point.

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#27349 Nov 9, 2012
Pro-American wrote:
<quoted text>Correct, we are no longer a colony. Barry said, "after more than 200 years, a colony...". The point being, more than 200 years ago there wasn't one colony, rather thirteen, thus the thirteen stripes on the flag! Barry, although an American citizen, didn't grow up in America, therefore he doesn't know what being an American means. He didn't grow up going to see fireworks on the fourth of July or going to department stores to sit on Santa's lap, etc... He IS an American citizen but he has no American values....and obviously no sense of American history.
Oh, so you are hung up on the idea he should have used the plural now?
Really? Is this all you got? Obama is an American. In fact, he is the most powerful American in America.
When you extremists come to terms with this fact, America will be one step closer to being united. Stop dividing America with this crap. Lets worry about the real problems America faces.

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