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“Anasasis Xenophontis.”

Since: Dec 08

over there.

#26264 Nov 1, 2012
Makin bacon wrote:
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Good video Pro. She won't be the only person of Jewish decent to vote for Romney. Obama has lost his popularity with the Jewish community since he has thrown Israel under the bus.
explain. We know christians are lookin for ways to call out bama on israel. If it was something that he said and people blew out of context just ignore the post. Besides aren't we all about dealing with our own problems?israel is not its own country? Shit with all that american firepower I can see why they oppose the current admin. They want more money. They havfe good reasoning though...but we are starving out a fking country for them.
TSF

Kenly, NC

#26265 Nov 1, 2012
emlu wrote:Do you think the families of the people killed are offended by Romney's comments?

Answer: YES. Mr Woods specifically asked that his son's death NOT be politicized. It is offesive to any decent person.
It certainly COULD have been prevented-- by properly funding consulate security instead of diverting the money into tax breaks to the rich. There is NO DIVERSION that will change that most disgusting FACT.
LuLu

Lenoir, NC

#26266 Nov 1, 2012
sevenSecrets wrote:
<quoted text>so you defend bringing a soldiers death into a political election and using that as a talking point....because it helps romney.
I just love how everyone assumes they know exactly what the whitehouse is doing 24/7. Shit not eeven the whitehouse but you guys got all this intelligence over the pentagon too! How easy it is to fall on that political bandwagon when your nominee finds something to blow out of proportion. We got bases and embassies in terrorist hotspots and somehow its all because of our presidents fault. Somehow it was all bushes fault that the towers fell cause he didn't tell those raptors to shoot down the planes.....see how this works. You, as in everyone, have absolutely no idea what was going on or what iis going on. Probably won't know till after the election. I know obama is killin us all and coddling the terrorists...I know we got to buy into that cause were against obama.
Fkin shallow as hell....its about the fact that people were killed without warning not about whose president. Fact is he couldn't dictate the event to your liking no matter how much you people perverse it. when america starts tellin the mob all about what their doing in the name of, special forces missions to kill enemies, intelligence on the whereabouts of said enemies, and they do this in the name of fueling your little political fires....I lose all faith in our military. Who are we to politically campaign on the tombstones of dead Americans
Have not soldiers deaths ALWAYS been part of politics? For the lack of better word, rumor mill. In today's world, those lovely things called facebook, skype, etc, let's people keep informed. You see where I'm going? The Brotherhood uses it everyday to keep in touch and coordinate "protests". In the same token, families and "buddies" do the same. Frankly, I think that this will be a asterisk on the current administration, I think it's tragic.

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#26267 Nov 1, 2012
sevenSecrets wrote:
<quoted text> explain. We know christians are lookin for ways to call out bama on israel. If it was something that he said and people blew out of context just ignore the post. Besides aren't we all about dealing with our own problems?israel is not its own country? Shit with all that american firepower I can see why they oppose the current admin. They want more money. They havfe good reasoning though...but we are starving out a fking country for them.
You fool, where do you think the U.S. got their intelligence about all this firepower? Why are our troops currently being trained in Israel by the IDF? Doesn't sound to me that Israel has one damn thing to be afraid of. Cut off Israel's money, they'll be fine. Israel has gone two wars without the U.S. and WON and they can do it again. We can take the money saved on Israel and give to the welfare programs theat enable people to do nothing and if our country is attacked, we'll run to the projects for a game plan.
LuLu

Lenoir, NC

#26268 Nov 1, 2012
TSF wrote:
Let me try to help you understand this: Benghazi is over 6300 miles from the White House. The email of the attack came to the White House from the State Department at 6:07 pm on Sept 11, 2012. The attack was already pretty much over and Ambassador Stevens body was released from a hospital at 8:30 pm Sept 11,2012. That was two hours and twenty three minutes after the email. Why was security so light? THE REPUBLIKAN CONGRESS HAD CUT 296 MILLION DOLLARS OFF THE STATE DEPARTMENT BUDGET REQUEST FOR CONSULATE SECURITY. You don't suppose that had any effect on available personnel?
Around 10:00 am on Sept 12, 2012, Obama announced the attack and attributed it to TERRORIST. That was around 16 hours after the email.
Before Sept 12, 2012 was over, Twitt Romney was attempting to make political points on the caskets of dead US service personnel and their bodies weren't even completely cold.
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When did the Congress cut funding, Sept. 10 2012? When were requests for more security made? You seem VERY specific on your exact times and dates, care to share your sources. I'm sure funding had effect on personnel. Do you think anyone took the threat under advisement? Do you think someone could have looked at the emails for more security and said "crap maybe they do need help"? Everyday that passes this looks worse and worse for the current administration.

“Arch Nemisis of Democrats”

Since: Jun 12

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#26269 Nov 1, 2012
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>First, the failure of Bush to upgrade the levee in advance could have prevented billions in loss. Likely hundreds of billions.
Second, no matter if all had evacuated, the federal government would still need to help house the ones left homeless.
Why do you say the FEMA trailers were not needed? Were you going to just leave them out in the elements? Why not give them a card to get things they need to live in such time of crisis?
You make a lot of outrageous claims, yet give no reasoning behind the wishes.
Pretty easy to Monday morning quarterback in the lazy boy.
"he original residents of Greater New Orleans settled on the high ground along the Mississippi River. Later developments eventually extended to nearby Lake Pontchartrain, built upon fill to bring them above the average lake level. Navigable commercial waterways extended from the lake to downtown. After 1940, the state decided to close those waterways following the completion of a new Industrial Canal for waterborne commerce. Closure of the waterways resulted in a drastic lowering of the water table by the city's drainage system, causing some areas to settle by up to 8 feet (2 m) due to the consolidation of the underlying organic soils. After 1965, the Corps of Engineers built a levee system around a much larger geographic footprint that included previous marshland and swamp. The average elevation of the city is between 1 and 2 feet (0.61 m) below sea level. There are no residential areas of the city that are currently more than 10 feet (3 m) below sea level.

After the Great Mississippi Flood of 1927, the Congress mandated the Corps of Engineers as the federal agency responsible for design and construction of flood protection projects, to include those in Greater New Orleans. It also affirmed the principle of local participation in federally funded projects but acknowledged that the $292 million already spent by local interests was sufficient to cover local participatory costs. It also required that local interests had to agree to be responsible for maintenance of any proposed levees before the projects would be initiated.

The heavy flooding caused by Hurricane Betsy in 1965 brought concerns regarding flooding from hurricanes to the forefront. That year, through enactment of the Flood Control Act of 1965 (FCA 1965) Congress authorized the Pontchartrain Hurricane Protection Project. FCA 1965 reiterated the principle of local participation in federally funded projects. The local interests' role was maintenance once the work was complete. Although federally authorized, it was a joint federal, state, and local effort. Almost from the start, the design was impacted by changes due to technical issues, environmental concerns, legal challenges, and local opposition by those opposed to the project. The project was initially estimated to take 13 years, but when Katrina struck in 2005, almost 40 years later, the project was only 60–90% complete with a revised projected completion date of 2015."

As you can read for yourself Miley, the levy system was in place long before Bush was in command. More importantly the following shows where some of the failure of government leadership on all levels, not just Bush, for mitigating some of the Katrina aftermath...

"The heavy flooding caused by Hurricane Betsy in 1965 brought concerns regarding flooding from hurricanes to the forefront. That year, through enactment of the Flood Control Act of 1965 (FCA 1965) Congress authorized the Pontchartrain Hurricane Protection Project. FCA 1965 reiterated the principle of local participation in federally funded projects. The local interests' role was maintenance once the work was complete. Although federally authorized, it was a joint federal, state, and local effort."

So again, failing to plan is planning to fail. You have a responsibility to protect yourself first and then others second. Perhaps

“Arch Nemisis of Democrats”

Since: Jun 12

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#26270 Nov 1, 2012
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>The contrast between Obama's handling of this storm compared to Bush's handling of Katrina is clear.
"Which politician emerged from the mess of Katrina as the biggest bonehead involved? No, it's not Michael Brown, George W. Bush, or even the bumbling Louisiana Gov. Kathleen Babineaux Blanco.

The clear winner is New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin, who made every conceivable mistake during the crisis. With plenty of warning, he delayed the evacuation order, had no drivers ready to operate the school buses that stood idle, failed to stock the Superdome with food and water, and let the looters rampage without any interference from police. The excuse given for the failure to get buses moving was that the mayor wasn't able to round up enough drivers. One report said most drivers were women and afraid to make the trip. But a competent mayor would have ordered the drivers to report and provided an armed on-board protector for each bus.

Nagin didn't bother. He did, however, record a message on DVD last July announcing, with other civic leaders, that New Orleans couldn't afford to evacuate the 134,000-odd mostly poor and black people known to lack transportation out of the city in case of a hurricane. When the hurricane struck, the DVD, with its hopeless message, "You're on your own," still hadn't been released.

Nagin also managed to inflame the rage over Katrina, particularly racial rage, by estimating 10,000 hurricane deaths in the city, a figure that now appears to be 10 times too high. Since then, he left the city to visit his evacuated family in Dallas, issued a good deal of blame-shifting rhetoric, and came down for–and then against–inviting New Orleans residents to return quickly to the city. A near-perfect record for incompetence."

And appearently I am not the only one who feels the responsibility for response, mitigation and recovery after a disaster all starts with local governments. Not the feds.

My point about the FEMA trailers and free prepaid Visa cards is there was very little checks or balances that things purchased with them were indeed necessities.

http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-201_162-6324462.h...
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43238753/ns/weath...

Just a few more examples...

Since: Dec 11

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#26271 Nov 1, 2012
Silvercoastcorks wrote:
<quoted text>
"Which politician emerged from the mess of Katrina as the biggest bonehead involved? No, it's not Michael Brown, George W. Bush, or even the bumbling Louisiana Gov. Kathleen Babineaux Blanco.
The clear winner is New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin, who made every conceivable mistake during the crisis. With plenty of warning, he delayed the evacuation order, had no drivers ready to operate the school buses that stood idle, failed to stock the Superdome with food and water, and let the looters rampage without any interference from police. The excuse given for the failure to get buses moving was that the mayor wasn't able to round up enough drivers. One report said most drivers were women and afraid to make the trip. But a competent mayor would have ordered the drivers to report and provided an armed on-board protector for each bus.
Nagin didn't bother. He did, however, record a message on DVD last July announcing, with other civic leaders, that New Orleans couldn't afford to evacuate the 134,000-odd mostly poor and black people known to lack transportation out of the city in case of a hurricane. When the hurricane struck, the DVD, with its hopeless message, "You're on your own," still hadn't been released.
Nagin also managed to inflame the rage over Katrina, particularly racial rage, by estimating 10,000 hurricane deaths in the city, a figure that now appears to be 10 times too high. Since then, he left the city to visit his evacuated family in Dallas, issued a good deal of blame-shifting rhetoric, and came down for–and then against–inviting New Orleans residents to return quickly to the city. A near-perfect record for incompetence."
And appearently I am not the only one who feels the responsibility for response, mitigation and recovery after a disaster all starts with local governments. Not the feds.
My point about the FEMA trailers and free prepaid Visa cards is there was very little checks or balances that things purchased with them were indeed necessities.
http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-201_162-6324462.h...
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43238753/ns/weath...
Just a few more examples...
Hey Silver, nothing to do with Katrina, but I thought this was a funny by Jay Leno:

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/20...

“Arch Nemisis of Democrats”

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#26272 Nov 1, 2012
LuLu wrote:
<quoted text>When did the Congress cut funding, Sept. 10 2012? When were requests for more security made? You seem VERY specific on your exact times and dates, care to share your sources. I'm sure funding had effect on personnel. Do you think anyone took the threat under advisement? Do you think someone could have looked at the emails for more security and said "crap maybe they do need help"? Everyday that passes this looks worse and worse for the current administration.
Never mind the actual Embassy in Tripoli had Marine Corps security detail assigned to it. Not to mention the United States Navy's Sixth Fleet, which is based in Italy, or the Amphibious Readiness Group or the famed Task Force 61, whose operational area is specifically the Med. Guess foreign policy is just not Nobama's thing. Glad he is doing his job on the response to Sandy.

I still voted for Romney/Ryan yesturday and all republicans on the ticket yesturday. Only democrat I voted for was the coroner because he was the only one running for the job.

“Arch Nemisis of Democrats”

Since: Jun 12

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#26273 Nov 1, 2012
Makin bacon wrote:
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Hey Silver, nothing to do with Katrina, but I thought this was a funny by Jay Leno:
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/20...
Leno is a pretty witty guy. I do respect his actions of taking a pay cut so some of his staff would stay working. Says volumes of his character.

“Arch Nemisis of Democrats”

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#26274 Nov 1, 2012
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>The contrast between Obama's handling of this storm compared to Bush's handling of Katrina is clear.
Glad Nobama is being responsbile and genuinely concerned.

Too little too late for his presidency.

“Arch Nemisis of Democrats”

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#26275 Nov 1, 2012
sevenSecrets wrote:
<quoted text>so you defend bringing a soldiers death into a political election and using that as a talking point....because it helps romney.
I just love how everyone assumes they know exactly what the whitehouse is doing 24/7. Shit not eeven the whitehouse but you guys got all this intelligence over the pentagon too! How easy it is to fall on that political bandwagon when your nominee finds something to blow out of proportion. We got bases and embassies in terrorist hotspots and somehow its all because of our presidents fault. Somehow it was all bushes fault that the towers fell cause he didn't tell those raptors to shoot down the planes.....see how this works. You, as in everyone, have absolutely no idea what was going on or what iis going on. Probably won't know till after the election. I know obama is killin us all and coddling the terrorists...I know we got to buy into that cause were against obama.
Fkin shallow as hell....its about the fact that people were killed without warning not about whose president. Fact is he couldn't dictate the event to your liking no matter how much you people perverse it. when america starts tellin the mob all about what their doing in the name of, special forces missions to kill enemies, intelligence on the whereabouts of said enemies, and they do this in the name of fueling your little political fires....I lose all faith in our military. Who are we to politically campaign on the tombstones of dead Americans
Kind of like when you guy claim the Iraq war was unnecessary or ill advised?

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#26276 Nov 1, 2012
Silvercoastcorks wrote:
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Never mind the actual Embassy in Tripoli had Marine Corps security detail assigned to it. Not to mention the United States Navy's Sixth Fleet, which is based in Italy, or the Amphibious Readiness Group or the famed Task Force 61, whose operational area is specifically the Med. Guess foreign policy is just not Nobama's thing. Glad he is doing his job on the response to Sandy.
I still voted for Romney/Ryan yesturday and all republicans on the ticket yesturday. Only democrat I voted for was the coroner because he was the only one running for the job.
It's a mess. Hour by hour it looks like those people were thrown under the bus.

“Anasasis Xenophontis.”

Since: Dec 08

over there.

#26277 Nov 1, 2012
Silvercoastcorks wrote:
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Kind of like when you guy claim the Iraq war was unnecessary or ill advised?
support the troops not the government. Atleast obama didn't spend a trillion killing osama.

“Anasasis Xenophontis.”

Since: Dec 08

over there.

#26278 Nov 1, 2012
emlu wrote:
<quoted text>It's a mess. Hour by hour it looks like those people were thrown under the bus.
funny how I actually watched that on faux. Yes they burn pictures of obama and riot against him...but he let an attack go through on our embassy. If coddling terrorist were as easy as you make out to be and throwing an international coverup out there is that simple.....you know where I'm going with this....fact is your conspiracy theories are wrong and you have no evidence to base this on other than the fearmongering media.

So thankful for fox soundbites and not buying cable tv. It whittles out the idiocracy.

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#26279 Nov 1, 2012
sevenSecrets wrote:
<quoted text>funny how I actually watched that on faux. Yes they burn pictures of obama and riot against him...but he let an attack go through on our embassy. If coddling terrorist were as easy as you make out to be and throwing an international coverup out there is that simple.....you know where I'm going with this....fact is your conspiracy theories are wrong and you have no evidence to base this on other than the fearmongering media.
So thankful for fox soundbites and not buying cable tv. It whittles out the idiocracy.
I did not understand your rambling at all. To me this is not about a freaking TV network pal. I could give a shit about fox on this issue. I think people died unnecessarily. Budget cuts, big shit, American's asked for help and didn't get it. Do your research, emails were sent asking and telling of concerns for safety. Apparently ignored and there were consequences.

“Arch Nemisis of Democrats”

Since: Jun 12

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#26280 Nov 1, 2012
emlu wrote:
<quoted text>I did not understand your rambling at all. To me this is not about a freaking TV network pal. I could give a shit about fox on this issue. I think people died unnecessarily. Budget cuts, big shit, American's asked for help and didn't get it. Do your research, emails were sent asking and telling of concerns for safety. Apparently ignored and there were consequences.
here here.
TSF

Kenly, NC

#26281 Nov 1, 2012
More significantly, for Fiscal Year 2012, House Republicans cut the Administration’s
request for these two accounts by more than $330 million. The Administration requested $1.7
billion for WSP and $938 million for ESCM, but House Republicans reduced these to $1.56
billion for WSP and $755 million for ESCM.

The chart below sets forth the cuts approved by House Republicans to the Administration’s embassy security funding requests in these two accounts.

HOUSE CUTS TO EMBASSY SECURITY FUNDING
(in millions of dollars)

FY 2011 FY 2012 FY 2011 and 2012

House Reduction (IN MILLIONS)

WSP $1,560.7 $1,461.0 -$99.7 $1,704.3 $1,556.9 -$147.4 $3,265.0 $3,017.0 -$248.0

ESCM

(WSU)

$824.2 $796.4 -$27.8 $938.2 $755.05 -$183.15 $1,762.4 $1,551.45 -$210.95

Totals $2,384.9 $2,257.4 -$127.5 $2,642.5 $2,311.95 -$330.55 $5,027.4 $4,568.45 -$458.95

Due to relatively small increases by the Senate before the bills were passed, the final amounts enacted by Congress for these two accounts were $2.29 billion for Fiscal Year 2011 and
$2.37 billion for Fiscal Year 2012, for a total of $4.66 billion.

http://assets.nationaljournal.com/pdf/Dems-OG...
LuLu wrote:
<quoted text>When did the Congress cut funding, Sept. 10 2012? When were requests for more security made? You seem VERY specific on your exact times and dates, care to share your sources. I'm sure funding had effect on personnel. Do you think anyone took the threat under advisement? Do you think someone could have looked at the emails for more security and said "crap maybe they do need help"? Everyday that passes this looks worse and worse for the current administration.
TSF

Kenly, NC

#26282 Nov 1, 2012
Tripoli is 981 miles from Benghazi, Rome is 0ver 600 miles from Benghazi. At even a crusise speed of 200 mph, a transport helicopter form Tripoli would have taken 4 hours and 51 minutes to get to Benghazi. If they left when the attack started at 4:00pm, they would have arrived 21 minutes AFTER the ambassadors body had been released from the hospital and the attackers were gone. If they left from Rome, in the same kind of chopper, they would have arrived at Benghazi at 7:00 pm, after the attack was over .
If the house republikans had not so severely cut security budgets,there would have been a chance that security was adequate.
THE FAULT OF THIS FAILURE CLEARLY LIES AT THE FEET OF HOUSE REPUBLIKANS.
Silvercoastcorks wrote:
<quoted text>
Never mind the actual Embassy in Tripoli had Marine Corps security detail assigned to it. Not to mention the United States Navy's Sixth Fleet, which is based in Italy, or the Amphibious Readiness Group or the famed Task Force 61, whose operational area is specifically the Med. Guess foreign policy is just not Nobama's thing. Glad he is doing his job on the response to Sandy.
I still voted for Romney/Ryan yesturday and all republicans on the ticket yesturday. Only democrat I voted for was the coroner because he was the only one running for the job.

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#26283 Nov 1, 2012
TSF wrote:
More significantly, for Fiscal Year 2012, House Republicans cut the Administration’s
request for these two accounts by more than $330 million. The Administration requested $1.7
billion for WSP and $938 million for ESCM, but House Republicans reduced these to $1.56
billion for WSP and $755 million for ESCM.
The chart below sets forth the cuts approved by House Republicans to the Administration’s embassy security funding requests in these two accounts.
HOUSE CUTS TO EMBASSY SECURITY FUNDING
(in millions of dollars)
FY 2011 FY 2012 FY 2011 and 2012
House Reduction (IN MILLIONS)
WSP $1,560.7 $1,461.0 -$99.7 $1,704.3 $1,556.9 -$147.4 $3,265.0 $3,017.0 -$248.0
ESCM
(WSU)
$824.2 $796.4 -$27.8 $938.2 $755.05 -$183.15 $1,762.4 $1,551.45 -$210.95
Totals $2,384.9 $2,257.4 -$127.5 $2,642.5 $2,311.95 -$330.55 $5,027.4 $4,568.45 -$458.95
Due to relatively small increases by the Senate before the bills were passed, the final amounts enacted by Congress for these two accounts were $2.29 billion for Fiscal Year 2011 and
$2.37 billion for Fiscal Year 2012, for a total of $4.66 billion.
http://assets.nationaljournal.com/pdf/Dems-OG...
<quoted text>
You don't get it, you can toss all the crap out you want about budget cuts in the fiscal year BS. THE POINT is, the embassy asked TWO,(2), get it?, two weeks prior to the attack for help. They didn't ask because they were bored. They asked because they had reason to believe there would be a problem. Get it? Are you understanding now? NO amount of budget cuts would have mattered in a situation of threat. The support was already within 2 hours. This has nothing to do with funding an embassy for a year, get it? Your "budget cut" crap relates to funding an installation for an extended period of time. does not apply here This would have been for a very short period of time. Save your political spin for fox news.

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