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#26271 Nov 1, 2012
Silvercoastcorks wrote:
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"Which politician emerged from the mess of Katrina as the biggest bonehead involved? No, it's not Michael Brown, George W. Bush, or even the bumbling Louisiana Gov. Kathleen Babineaux Blanco.
The clear winner is New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin, who made every conceivable mistake during the crisis. With plenty of warning, he delayed the evacuation order, had no drivers ready to operate the school buses that stood idle, failed to stock the Superdome with food and water, and let the looters rampage without any interference from police. The excuse given for the failure to get buses moving was that the mayor wasn't able to round up enough drivers. One report said most drivers were women and afraid to make the trip. But a competent mayor would have ordered the drivers to report and provided an armed on-board protector for each bus.
Nagin didn't bother. He did, however, record a message on DVD last July announcing, with other civic leaders, that New Orleans couldn't afford to evacuate the 134,000-odd mostly poor and black people known to lack transportation out of the city in case of a hurricane. When the hurricane struck, the DVD, with its hopeless message, "You're on your own," still hadn't been released.
Nagin also managed to inflame the rage over Katrina, particularly racial rage, by estimating 10,000 hurricane deaths in the city, a figure that now appears to be 10 times too high. Since then, he left the city to visit his evacuated family in Dallas, issued a good deal of blame-shifting rhetoric, and came down for–and then against–inviting New Orleans residents to return quickly to the city. A near-perfect record for incompetence."
And appearently I am not the only one who feels the responsibility for response, mitigation and recovery after a disaster all starts with local governments. Not the feds.
My point about the FEMA trailers and free prepaid Visa cards is there was very little checks or balances that things purchased with them were indeed necessities.
http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-201_162-6324462.h...
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43238753/ns/weath...
Just a few more examples...
Hey Silver, nothing to do with Katrina, but I thought this was a funny by Jay Leno:

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/20...

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#26272 Nov 1, 2012
LuLu wrote:
<quoted text>When did the Congress cut funding, Sept. 10 2012? When were requests for more security made? You seem VERY specific on your exact times and dates, care to share your sources. I'm sure funding had effect on personnel. Do you think anyone took the threat under advisement? Do you think someone could have looked at the emails for more security and said "crap maybe they do need help"? Everyday that passes this looks worse and worse for the current administration.
Never mind the actual Embassy in Tripoli had Marine Corps security detail assigned to it. Not to mention the United States Navy's Sixth Fleet, which is based in Italy, or the Amphibious Readiness Group or the famed Task Force 61, whose operational area is specifically the Med. Guess foreign policy is just not Nobama's thing. Glad he is doing his job on the response to Sandy.

I still voted for Romney/Ryan yesturday and all republicans on the ticket yesturday. Only democrat I voted for was the coroner because he was the only one running for the job.

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#26273 Nov 1, 2012
Makin bacon wrote:
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Hey Silver, nothing to do with Katrina, but I thought this was a funny by Jay Leno:
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/20...
Leno is a pretty witty guy. I do respect his actions of taking a pay cut so some of his staff would stay working. Says volumes of his character.

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#26274 Nov 1, 2012
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>The contrast between Obama's handling of this storm compared to Bush's handling of Katrina is clear.
Glad Nobama is being responsbile and genuinely concerned.

Too little too late for his presidency.

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#26275 Nov 1, 2012
sevenSecrets wrote:
<quoted text>so you defend bringing a soldiers death into a political election and using that as a talking point....because it helps romney.
I just love how everyone assumes they know exactly what the whitehouse is doing 24/7. Shit not eeven the whitehouse but you guys got all this intelligence over the pentagon too! How easy it is to fall on that political bandwagon when your nominee finds something to blow out of proportion. We got bases and embassies in terrorist hotspots and somehow its all because of our presidents fault. Somehow it was all bushes fault that the towers fell cause he didn't tell those raptors to shoot down the planes.....see how this works. You, as in everyone, have absolutely no idea what was going on or what iis going on. Probably won't know till after the election. I know obama is killin us all and coddling the terrorists...I know we got to buy into that cause were against obama.
Fkin shallow as hell....its about the fact that people were killed without warning not about whose president. Fact is he couldn't dictate the event to your liking no matter how much you people perverse it. when america starts tellin the mob all about what their doing in the name of, special forces missions to kill enemies, intelligence on the whereabouts of said enemies, and they do this in the name of fueling your little political fires....I lose all faith in our military. Who are we to politically campaign on the tombstones of dead Americans
Kind of like when you guy claim the Iraq war was unnecessary or ill advised?

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#26276 Nov 1, 2012
Silvercoastcorks wrote:
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Never mind the actual Embassy in Tripoli had Marine Corps security detail assigned to it. Not to mention the United States Navy's Sixth Fleet, which is based in Italy, or the Amphibious Readiness Group or the famed Task Force 61, whose operational area is specifically the Med. Guess foreign policy is just not Nobama's thing. Glad he is doing his job on the response to Sandy.
I still voted for Romney/Ryan yesturday and all republicans on the ticket yesturday. Only democrat I voted for was the coroner because he was the only one running for the job.
It's a mess. Hour by hour it looks like those people were thrown under the bus.

“Anasasis Xenophontis.”

Since: Dec 08

over there.

#26277 Nov 1, 2012
Silvercoastcorks wrote:
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Kind of like when you guy claim the Iraq war was unnecessary or ill advised?
support the troops not the government. Atleast obama didn't spend a trillion killing osama.

“Anasasis Xenophontis.”

Since: Dec 08

over there.

#26278 Nov 1, 2012
emlu wrote:
<quoted text>It's a mess. Hour by hour it looks like those people were thrown under the bus.
funny how I actually watched that on faux. Yes they burn pictures of obama and riot against him...but he let an attack go through on our embassy. If coddling terrorist were as easy as you make out to be and throwing an international coverup out there is that simple.....you know where I'm going with this....fact is your conspiracy theories are wrong and you have no evidence to base this on other than the fearmongering media.

So thankful for fox soundbites and not buying cable tv. It whittles out the idiocracy.

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#26279 Nov 1, 2012
sevenSecrets wrote:
<quoted text>funny how I actually watched that on faux. Yes they burn pictures of obama and riot against him...but he let an attack go through on our embassy. If coddling terrorist were as easy as you make out to be and throwing an international coverup out there is that simple.....you know where I'm going with this....fact is your conspiracy theories are wrong and you have no evidence to base this on other than the fearmongering media.
So thankful for fox soundbites and not buying cable tv. It whittles out the idiocracy.
I did not understand your rambling at all. To me this is not about a freaking TV network pal. I could give a shit about fox on this issue. I think people died unnecessarily. Budget cuts, big shit, American's asked for help and didn't get it. Do your research, emails were sent asking and telling of concerns for safety. Apparently ignored and there were consequences.

“Arch Nemisis of Democrats”

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#26280 Nov 1, 2012
emlu wrote:
<quoted text>I did not understand your rambling at all. To me this is not about a freaking TV network pal. I could give a shit about fox on this issue. I think people died unnecessarily. Budget cuts, big shit, American's asked for help and didn't get it. Do your research, emails were sent asking and telling of concerns for safety. Apparently ignored and there were consequences.
here here.
TSF

Fayetteville, NC

#26281 Nov 1, 2012
More significantly, for Fiscal Year 2012, House Republicans cut the Administration’s
request for these two accounts by more than $330 million. The Administration requested $1.7
billion for WSP and $938 million for ESCM, but House Republicans reduced these to $1.56
billion for WSP and $755 million for ESCM.

The chart below sets forth the cuts approved by House Republicans to the Administration’s embassy security funding requests in these two accounts.

HOUSE CUTS TO EMBASSY SECURITY FUNDING
(in millions of dollars)

FY 2011 FY 2012 FY 2011 and 2012

House Reduction (IN MILLIONS)

WSP $1,560.7 $1,461.0 -$99.7 $1,704.3 $1,556.9 -$147.4 $3,265.0 $3,017.0 -$248.0

ESCM

(WSU)

$824.2 $796.4 -$27.8 $938.2 $755.05 -$183.15 $1,762.4 $1,551.45 -$210.95

Totals $2,384.9 $2,257.4 -$127.5 $2,642.5 $2,311.95 -$330.55 $5,027.4 $4,568.45 -$458.95

Due to relatively small increases by the Senate before the bills were passed, the final amounts enacted by Congress for these two accounts were $2.29 billion for Fiscal Year 2011 and
$2.37 billion for Fiscal Year 2012, for a total of $4.66 billion.

http://assets.nationaljournal.com/pdf/Dems-OG...
LuLu wrote:
<quoted text>When did the Congress cut funding, Sept. 10 2012? When were requests for more security made? You seem VERY specific on your exact times and dates, care to share your sources. I'm sure funding had effect on personnel. Do you think anyone took the threat under advisement? Do you think someone could have looked at the emails for more security and said "crap maybe they do need help"? Everyday that passes this looks worse and worse for the current administration.
TSF

Fayetteville, NC

#26282 Nov 1, 2012
Tripoli is 981 miles from Benghazi, Rome is 0ver 600 miles from Benghazi. At even a crusise speed of 200 mph, a transport helicopter form Tripoli would have taken 4 hours and 51 minutes to get to Benghazi. If they left when the attack started at 4:00pm, they would have arrived 21 minutes AFTER the ambassadors body had been released from the hospital and the attackers were gone. If they left from Rome, in the same kind of chopper, they would have arrived at Benghazi at 7:00 pm, after the attack was over .
If the house republikans had not so severely cut security budgets,there would have been a chance that security was adequate.
THE FAULT OF THIS FAILURE CLEARLY LIES AT THE FEET OF HOUSE REPUBLIKANS.
Silvercoastcorks wrote:
<quoted text>
Never mind the actual Embassy in Tripoli had Marine Corps security detail assigned to it. Not to mention the United States Navy's Sixth Fleet, which is based in Italy, or the Amphibious Readiness Group or the famed Task Force 61, whose operational area is specifically the Med. Guess foreign policy is just not Nobama's thing. Glad he is doing his job on the response to Sandy.
I still voted for Romney/Ryan yesturday and all republicans on the ticket yesturday. Only democrat I voted for was the coroner because he was the only one running for the job.

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#26283 Nov 1, 2012
TSF wrote:
More significantly, for Fiscal Year 2012, House Republicans cut the Administration’s
request for these two accounts by more than $330 million. The Administration requested $1.7
billion for WSP and $938 million for ESCM, but House Republicans reduced these to $1.56
billion for WSP and $755 million for ESCM.
The chart below sets forth the cuts approved by House Republicans to the Administration’s embassy security funding requests in these two accounts.
HOUSE CUTS TO EMBASSY SECURITY FUNDING
(in millions of dollars)
FY 2011 FY 2012 FY 2011 and 2012
House Reduction (IN MILLIONS)
WSP $1,560.7 $1,461.0 -$99.7 $1,704.3 $1,556.9 -$147.4 $3,265.0 $3,017.0 -$248.0
ESCM
(WSU)
$824.2 $796.4 -$27.8 $938.2 $755.05 -$183.15 $1,762.4 $1,551.45 -$210.95
Totals $2,384.9 $2,257.4 -$127.5 $2,642.5 $2,311.95 -$330.55 $5,027.4 $4,568.45 -$458.95
Due to relatively small increases by the Senate before the bills were passed, the final amounts enacted by Congress for these two accounts were $2.29 billion for Fiscal Year 2011 and
$2.37 billion for Fiscal Year 2012, for a total of $4.66 billion.
http://assets.nationaljournal.com/pdf/Dems-OG...
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You don't get it, you can toss all the crap out you want about budget cuts in the fiscal year BS. THE POINT is, the embassy asked TWO,(2), get it?, two weeks prior to the attack for help. They didn't ask because they were bored. They asked because they had reason to believe there would be a problem. Get it? Are you understanding now? NO amount of budget cuts would have mattered in a situation of threat. The support was already within 2 hours. This has nothing to do with funding an embassy for a year, get it? Your "budget cut" crap relates to funding an installation for an extended period of time. does not apply here This would have been for a very short period of time. Save your political spin for fox news.

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#26284 Nov 1, 2012
TSF wrote:
Tripoli is 981 miles from Benghazi, Rome is 0ver 600 miles from Benghazi. At even a crusise speed of 200 mph, a transport helicopter form Tripoli would have taken 4 hours and 51 minutes to get to Benghazi. If they left when the attack started at 4:00pm, they would have arrived 21 minutes AFTER the ambassadors body had been released from the hospital and the attackers were gone. If they left from Rome, in the same kind of chopper, they would have arrived at Benghazi at 7:00 pm, after the attack was over .
If the house republikans had not so severely cut security budgets,there would have been a chance that security was adequate.
THE FAULT OF THIS FAILURE CLEARLY LIES AT THE FEET OF HOUSE REPUBLIKANS.
<quoted text>
If someone had read an email they would have had 2 weeks in a row boat to get there.

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#26285 Nov 1, 2012
TSF wrote:
Tripoli is 981 miles from Benghazi, Rome is 0ver 600 miles from Benghazi. At even a crusise speed of 200 mph, a transport helicopter form Tripoli would have taken 4 hours and 51 minutes to get to Benghazi. If they left when the attack started at 4:00pm, they would have arrived 21 minutes AFTER the ambassadors body had been released from the hospital and the attackers were gone. If they left from Rome, in the same kind of chopper, they would have arrived at Benghazi at 7:00 pm, after the attack was over .
If the house republikans had not so severely cut security budgets,there would have been a chance that security was adequate.
THE FAULT OF THIS FAILURE CLEARLY LIES AT THE FEET OF HOUSE REPUBLIKANS.
<quoted text>
October 24, 2012 8:07 PM
Prind Martin
Play CBS News Video
(CBS News) On the night of the deadly attack on the U.S. consulate in Libya, a team of American military commandos was sent from Europe to an airfield at Sigonella, in Sicily, Italy, putting them at least an hour's flight away from Benghazi, CBS News has learned.
The team, known as the Commander's In-extremis Force, was designed specifically for quick reaction to unforeseen emergencies. But U.S. officials say it did not arrive in Sicily until after the attack was over.
Even if the team had been ready in time, confusion about what was happening on the ground in Benghazi -- and State Department concerns about violating Libyan sovereignty -- made a military rescue mission impractical, the officials say.
That confusion can be read in State Department cables from the day of the attack. At 4:05 p.m. ET, a cable warned the consulate was under attack. Forty-nine minutes later, another cable reported that the firing had stopped and the compound had been cleared.
See Sharyl Attkisson's report on the cables, left.
In fact, the U.S. ambassador and one other State Department employee were dead and the attack was far from over.
Seven hours later, another cable reported that a Benghazi shelter location was also under attack by mortar fire -- a reference to a safe house about a mile from the consulate, where approximately 30 Americans had taken cover. Daylight revealed the safe house had taken a direct hit, killing two more Americans.
Tunisia: Libya consulate attack suspect arrested
Clinton urges caution on newly released emails detailing Libya attack
Emails detail unfolding Benghazi attack on Sept. 11
U.S. officials confirmed Wednesday that a 28-year-old man suspected of taking part in the attack is now in custody in Tunisia, but he is not considered to be one of the ringleaders. So far, the FBI has not been allowed to question him.
Meanwhile, CBS News correspondent Margaret Brennan reports that the FBI and State Department have reviewed video from security cameras that captured the attack on the consulate.
The audio feed of the attack was being monitored in real time in Washington by diplomatic security official Charlene Lamb. CBS News has learned that video of the assault was recovered 20 days later from the more than 10 security cameras at the compound.
The government security camera footage of the attack was in the possession of local Libyans until the week of Oct. 1. The video will be among the evidence that the State Department's review board will analyze to determine who carried out the assault.
© 2012 CBS Interactive Inc. All Rights Reserved.
David Martin
David Martin is CBS News' National Security Correspondent.
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#26286 Nov 1, 2012
If a frog had wings , he wouldn't bump his ass every time he jumps. If Dubya Bush had reacted to numerous reports of the 911 , 01 attack, it would have saved 3000 American lives. If congress had not cut funds to the Benghazi security fund, money would have been available for more security. If there had been 50 marines there would have been 54 dead instead of 4. Typical chickenhawk sitting in the lazyboy and figuring out what should have been done. When and where will the next attack occur chicken hawk? Instead of blaming the terrorist who carry out the attacks, you can blame someone in the USA. Chicken shit chickenhawks and their Twitt leader, part of the blame America crowd. Geese!!
emlu wrote:
<quoted text>If someone had read an email they would have had 2 weeks in a row boat to get there.

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#26287 Nov 1, 2012
TSF wrote:
If a frog had wings , he wouldn't bump his ass every time he jumps. If Dubya Bush had reacted to numerous reports of the 911 , 01 attack, it would have saved 3000 American lives. If congress had not cut funds to the Benghazi security fund, money would have been available for more security. If there had been 50 marines there would have been 54 dead instead of 4. Typical chickenhawk sitting in the lazyboy and figuring out what should have been done. When and where will the next attack occur chicken hawk? Instead of blaming the terrorist who carry out the attacks, you can blame someone in the USA. Chicken shit chickenhawks and their Twitt leader, part of the blame America crowd. Geese!!
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I see you don't have any trust in the US Marines, I know a couple that will dispute that little comment. Why would you bring up Bush? He had nothing to do with the attack and murder of Americans in Libya. He read his emails and security reports and attended meetings. You know the only thing that bothers me about your lip service? The comment about the Marines. 50 US Marines is a force to be reckoned with, coming from an Army gal that's saying a lot. 9/11 changed the entire world and how global intel is conducted. Bush just happened to be part of that, it's called history. Clinton signed the death warrant on Bin Laden but President Obama happen to be the president in office when he was found, again history.
Voted but scared

Charlotte, NC

#26289 Nov 1, 2012
Why is this election any different than past ones?

Yes, we are no doubt in dire, dire straits to the state of our economy/unemployed rate/underemployed rate/the deficit being at 16 trillion plus/the loose/loose war etc. and now the most recent catastrophe Sandy. Imho, never, ever take a mans words as a truth while running for office. It's been a given for over 200 yrs.

President Obama is still saying the exact same thing he was babbling about 4 yrs ago and he says it all as if we never heard it before. Does he think we are this stupid? And Romney so we think is going to become Superman right? A big wrong.

It is this simple people...All politicians lie and all politicians tell us what we want to hear. So all you straight Dems and all you straight Pubs just do what you do every 4 yrs. The others who knows. At this point I am putting it in God's Hands.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#26290 Nov 1, 2012
Pro-American wrote:
<quoted text>You missed the point. TSF said that Romney said......., I replied no, he implied. Again, you're agreeing with me that he implied, he NEVER said what's he's accused of saying. Just proving a point to TSF, just because BSNBC says it doesn't mean it's true.
I understood your point quite well, and I did not dispute your claim. But I wanted to show how experts twist words to lead one to believe one thing that way they can have their cake and eat it also.
WACO 1909

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#26291 Nov 1, 2012
Mike you're the biggest coward I've ever seen.Curse out the ladies then get paranoid and act like there's a hit man after you.Damn boy you need serious professional help.Best you leave my name out of your insane posts Mr. Paranoid.

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