Since: Dec 11

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#25852 Oct 29, 2012
TSF wrote:
You demonstrate your ignorance in your belief that presidents can aurhorize spending or borrowing. Congress is responsible for all expenditures through departmental budgets. It is true that the National debt increased over 100% during the presidency of Dubya Bush, but it wasn't Bush that did that. It was congress. It is true that the national debt has increased 50% during the presidency of Obama, but Obama didnt do that either . It was congress. Congress passes the laws, authorizes spending and borrowing and has to authorize raising the debt limit.
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So TSF, Obama had a democratic congress for the first two years of his presidency and the National Debt increased 50% in a 4 year period and under GW over eight years it increased 100%? You're the numbers guys, so let me ask, could not a democratic congress under a democratic president do any better? You can't blame the repubs, they didn't have control of Congress for the first two years, what went wrong with the dems in congress the first two years? It looks like Obama's record with congress is no better than GW's. You can explain to me, IF Obama is re-elected and congress (dem or repub--both failed) do no better, what makes GW and Obama any different? It appears to me, neither were and are good team players.

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#25853 Oct 29, 2012
Allen wrote:
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Whether or not I beleive that abortion is murder is irrelevant. I did see part of the interview with Mourdock when he was ask about the rape of a 13 year old girl. It is very evident to me where he stands. We all know that rape is an act of violence. Rape is not God's will, we were given freewill. Barrbaric as it may sound but, hanging is to good for a bastard like that. How the hell could we possilbly ask that a 13 year old child become a mother after being violated in such a way?
What could we expect a young female's outlook to be on marriage, sex and family after such a traumatic experience?
Pro I seek feedback from you most of all because you have stated that you have three daughters!
Allen, I'm butting in. I, have a daughter and I couldn't imagine her being raped at any age. Tere would be no need for a trial for the man that did it, I'd save the taxpayers money and take care of the problem myself. I don't believe a child that's a victim of rape, or incest (which is the difference?) or a woman that's an adult being the victim of rape should be able to have an abortion. We need to educate our daughters, and women in general that rape should be reported immediately and they give 7 pills from a birth control dose pack that will cause a period and take care of an unwanted pregnancy. Pray to God, the man was not HIV positive, that's insult to injury. I think the men that made the statement were idiots and that's as kind as I can be; however, making a joke about their insensitivity to rape victims is also idiotic. In my job before, I attended support groups for rape victims and the cereal box joke would not have been funny. Rape isn't funny and I think making a jokes even to point out someone's stupidity only inflicts more emotional pain to rape victims.

Since: Dec 11

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#25854 Oct 29, 2012
oops Allen, I do believe a child that's a victim of rape... should be able to have an abortion

“ We are not permanent”

Since: Oct 08

Gaston County

#25855 Oct 29, 2012
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>So even if the economy is bad, you see no need for spending to help keep it from collapsing? If the debt was paid down to a surplus in the good times, one could spend in the bad without debt. At least in theory.
But republicans like Bush said it is your money, so you should not have the government help save for a rainy day.
"Keeping from collapsing" did not resolve the debt issue. We are deeper in debt.

There has not been a surplus. Clinton left no surplus.

Correct. The government should not save "our" money for us. We should be responsible enough to save for ourselves. If one does not plan for the "rainy day" then one can get wet.

“ We are not permanent”

Since: Oct 08

Gaston County

#25856 Oct 29, 2012
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>My points are non committal because circumstances differ and there is no one solution for each problem.
Your views are very black and white as is most republicans are. What I keep trying to point out is, you need to look at the situation of the day to discern the approach.

Tax cuts for the rich is not going to lower the debt. Loopholes will not likely be cut much. Spending two trillion extra for the military is not going to reduce the debt.
Your points are non committal because you straddle the fence at times and lean to the side that best suites your argument.

You are correct. I see things in black and white and move on. When you drill down to the core of any issue the underlying problem typically can be resolved with a black and white answer.

You said "Taxing the rich is not going to lower the debt".

I agree. Government doesn't have a revenue problem, they have a spending problem

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#25857 Oct 29, 2012
Pro-American wrote:
<quoted text> Define greed. Who are you to determine when someone else has to much? How could you possibly know someone else's needs?
I think this outsourcing of Sensata Technologies, smacks of greed...Over $500,000 in one quarters profit this year, yet still scheduled for China...Imagine a 180 employee plant, clearing over $2 million annually, but it's not enough? Those are some hungry stockholders....
Taxpayer

Point Harbor, NC

#25858 Oct 29, 2012
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>The tax rates have been lowered steadily for decades. It was much higher in the forties, fifties, sixties and seventies.
So America is clearing going in a direction that is less of what a up and coming communist country would be.
That's a lie.

Since: Dec 11

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#25859 Oct 29, 2012
Thoughts and prayers for all of those in the path of Hurricane Sandy that is ready to hit landfall. May God give them strength and safety.

Since: Dec 11

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#25860 Oct 29, 2012
Arnold-Ziffel wrote:
Thoughts and prayers for all of those in the path of Hurricane Sandy that is ready to hit landfall. May God give them strength and safety.
Amen brother.

Since: Oct 12

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#25861 Oct 29, 2012
The Enemy Within wrote:
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Your points are non committal because you straddle the fence at times and lean to the side that best suites your argument.
You are correct. I see things in black and white and move on. When you drill down to the core of any issue the underlying problem typically can be resolved with a black and white answer.
You said "Taxing the rich is not going to lower the debt".
I agree. Government doesn't have a revenue problem, they have a spending problem
TOOL, lets continue to send jobs overseas and buy the products back on credit. America is a nation of unemployed shoppers. China owns us.

Since: Sep 12

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#25862 Oct 29, 2012
Makin bacon wrote:
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Amen brother.
Yes, they are being hit hard right now.
Allen

Penrose, NC

#25863 Oct 29, 2012
Makin bacon wrote:
oops Allen, I do believe a child that's a victim of rape... should be able to have an abortion
Thank you bacon and I do owe apology for my previous post. It was truly in bad taste. Sometimes I have to laugh just to keep from crying. Our kids used to be able to skip down the street, now they can't skip for having to look over their shoulders. Sad.
Allen

Penrose, NC

#25864 Oct 29, 2012
emlu wrote:
<quoted text>Yes, they are being hit hard right now.
Emlu, could'nt help but think of you as I pulled out Grandma's old oil lamp:) I am just south of Asheville, winds have been 60-65 mph. Went to the grocery store, the wind had picked up the buggy corrals and tossed them like tumble weeds. About 1500 here without power. Hope all of you are safe from harms way. My prayers go out to all in this storms path. This one is likely to make history!

“physics is your friend”

Since: May 12

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#25865 Oct 29, 2012
Taxpayer wrote:
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That's a lie.
Yeah....like all your crap is true.
Allen

Penrose, NC

#25866 Oct 29, 2012
Allen wrote:
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Thank you bacon and I do owe apology for my previous post. It was truly in bad taste. Sometimes I have to laugh just to keep from crying. Our kids used to be able to skip down the street, now they can't skip for having to look over their shoulders. Sad.


"Bacon":)

Since: Dec 11

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#25867 Oct 29, 2012
Allen wrote:
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Emlu, could'nt help but think of you as I pulled out Grandma's old oil lamp:) I am just south of Asheville, winds have been 60-65 mph. Went to the grocery store, the wind had picked up the buggy corrals and tossed them like tumble weeds. About 1500 here without power. Hope all of you are safe from harms way. My prayers go out to all in this storms path. This one is likely to make history!
Allen and Emlu, you guys stay safe. Looks like the ski resorts are getting an early and hopefully prosperous early snow. Keep us updated on the conditions for you guys.
Allen

Penrose, NC

#25868 Oct 29, 2012
Makin bacon wrote:
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Allen and Emlu, you guys stay safe. Looks like the ski resorts are getting an early and hopefully prosperous early snow. Keep us updated on the conditions for you guys.
Will do Bacon, you too. Ski outlook good, airlines probably stand to suffer at least three or four days! Some may even be stranded until the weekend.

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#25869 Oct 29, 2012
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>Cop out response.
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>In 06, the economy was not in the shitter yet. So Obama was speaking to why republicans were spending so much in the good times, and not saving for the hard times.
So if the republicans had saved in the good times, Obama could have spent in the hard times to keep the economy stable and yet keep the debt low.
So if Bush would've spent the money on the debt during the "good times", it would've allowed Obama to spend the money on other things. News flash, the United States has continuously held a public debt since the US Constitution legally went into effect on March 4, 1789. That being said, although the govt has a debt problem, more importantly, THE GOVT HAS A SPENDING PROBLEM!
So under your philosophy, when you pay out (debt) more than you take in (income), it's ok to still spend money that you don't have on frivolous things and eventually you'll pay off your debt? You can call it what you want, I call it bullshit!

Since: Dec 11

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#25870 Oct 29, 2012
TSF wrote:
You demonstrate your ignorance in your belief that presidents can aurhorize spending or borrowing. Congress is responsible for all expenditures through departmental budgets. It is true that the National debt increased over 100% during the presidency of Dubya Bush, but it wasn't Bush that did that. It was congress. It is true that the national debt has increased 50% during the presidency of Obama, but Obama didnt do that either . It was congress. Congress passes the laws, authorizes spending and borrowing and has to authorize raising the debt limit.
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The buck stops at the White House! The President has the power to sign a bill into law or to veto.
Of Bush's eight years in office, the majority of his spending, minus the wars, were in the last two years of his second term....when the democrats controlled congress. Yes, he could've vetoed but he didn't. Why, who knows.
Why is it with you libs, when a Republican is in power, it's their fault but when a democrat is in power, it's congresses fault?

Since: Oct 12

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#25871 Oct 29, 2012
Pro-American wrote:
<quoted text>So if Bush would've spent the money on the debt during the "good times", it would've allowed Obama to spend the money on other things. News flash, the United States has continuously held a public debt since the US Constitution legally went into effect on March 4, 1789. That being said, although the govt has a debt problem, more importantly, THE GOVT HAS A SPENDING PROBLEM!
So under your philosophy, when you pay out (debt) more than you take in (income), it's ok to still spend money that you don't have on frivolous things and eventually you'll pay off your debt? You can call it what you want, I call it bullshit!
You are stupid.......Bush spent 2 trillion outside of the country on wars..ON CREDIT!!! When the most important resource....PEOPLE...are forgotton....a nation falls in decline. We are such a nation TOOOOOLLL...

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