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“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

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#25783 Oct 29, 2012
Makin bacon wrote:
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TSF, by your own admission you employee people to make more for you, so what's your problem and apparently you don't care if it could help get people off public assistance, unemployment etc, you like making that money and to heck if helps the "poor" you're so worried about. Gee and you call the republicans greedy? Do you use loopholes, tax breaks, whatever you want to call them on your tax returns? We'll agree to disagree about the "small amount given to the poor" ideal you've bought in to.
I did find a quote I thought was interesting and let me guess, you weren't a big Abraham Lincoln fan:
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You cannot help the poor by destroying the rich.
You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong.
You cannot bring about prosperity by discouraging thrift.
You cannot lift the wage earner up by pulling the wage payer down.
You cannot further the brotherhood of man by inciting class hatred.
You cannot build character and courage by taking away people’s initiative and independence.
You cannot help people permanently by doing for them,
what they could and should do for themselves.
- Abraham Lincoln
Clearly the rich are getting richer in America. No sign of them being pulled down as of yet, so why do you keep acting like they are?

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#25784 Oct 29, 2012
Silvercoastcorks wrote:
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Well, here is an idea. You can voluntarily pay more taxes if you like. Help America and those in need.
This would solve no problems.

Republicans=no solutions

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#25785 Oct 29, 2012
Silvercoastcorks wrote:
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Leaving Iraq was a tremendous mistake.
Bush was for leaving Iraq also.
If you wanted to keep fighting in Iraq, maybe you should have joined the military to fight in Iraq. Easy to sit back and send others to die. How is that lazy boy working out for you?

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#25786 Oct 29, 2012
Silvercoastcorks wrote:
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All mere opinion.
How dare he give an opinion on an opinion forum. He was not claiming it as facts, he clearly showed it was opinion. So thanks for pointing out the obvious.

TSF wrote:
I completely agree with Mr Lincoln. I have called republikans, stupid, selfish, myopic, juvenile, corrupt, dispicable,unpatriotic, communistic , etc. but not greedy. I do not seek to destroy the rich, just make them pay the same tax RATE that I pay. I advocate thrift by taking away socialism to the rich. I pay taxes on earned income as well as investment income. All I want is for everyone to pay the same tax rate. I just see it as immoral to give huge amounts of free money to the rich who don't need it and resent paltry awards to the poor who do need it. I empathize with the poor but do not pity them. I understand motives of the rich but do not admire or resent them for their wealth. I see no reason to excuse the rich or poor from taxes. That is my basic disagreement with both parties.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#25787 Oct 29, 2012
Silvercoastcorks wrote:
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Well, I would disagree. While taking the time to enjoy a morning sunrise and appreciate the new beginning, at some point somewhere along the line, you had to pay money to be there to watch it.
Money makes life easier.
You pay money to watch the sun rise?

“Arch Nemisis of Democrats”

Since: Jun 12

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#25788 Oct 29, 2012
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>Bush was for leaving Iraq also.
If you wanted to keep fighting in Iraq, maybe you should have joined the military to fight in Iraq. Easy to sit back and send others to die. How is that lazy boy working out for you?
Right. How long have we been in Japan, Germany, and Korea again?

Never mind any other bases in Europe. Iraq was a good chance to establish a democracy in the Middle East.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

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#25789 Oct 29, 2012
Silvercoastcorks wrote:
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Probably the biggest factor in the problems with voodoo economics is the over-estimation of increased worker productivity. While cutting taxes may create new jobs, it cannot make people work more hours or longer weeks. Voodoo economics is a derogatory term used to describe the economic process known as supply-side economics.
The 50's business expansion was simply pent-up consumer demand fueling exceptionally strong economic growth in the post war period after the rationing during world war 2.
There has been tremendous growth of business as a result of the wars abroad, mostly in the department of defense realm. It was the same during world war 2. So I disagree with your perspective or no economic growth in the last 10 years. I do forsee several business moguls closing up shop if Obama wins another term because of his intentions to redistribute wealth thus leading to even more unemployment.
So war spending(government spending) creates jobs and increases the economy? Thanks for confirming that.
Now why not have the government spend on things besides war to also help the economy?

And I am confused by your statement that workers will not work longer weeks. What does that have to do with anything? And who says workers will not work longer weeks or longer hours? And if this is so, why not just hire more workers?
Maybe we should go back to the days when they had small kids working in factories for eighty or more hours a week. Is that you wish?

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#25790 Oct 29, 2012
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>This would solve no problems.
Republicans=no solutions
You have failed to show how it is not a solution. So your answer is invalid.

I win.

Or better yet, your answer is a cop out.

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#25791 Oct 29, 2012
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>You pay money to watch the sun rise?
So do you mike. Keep spinning meat gazer.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

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#25792 Oct 29, 2012
Pro-American wrote:
<quoted text>Don't forget about Obamacare. Those who don't close shop will cut most of their full time positions to part time to avoid the extra associated cost.
Did that happen in Massachusetts? Nope, so why do you think it will happen now?
If you wish to see the results of Obama care, just look at the results of Romney care in Massachusetts.
Clearly you do not know how to look at history and learn from it. Common for republicans.

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#25793 Oct 29, 2012
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>So war spending(government spending) creates jobs and increases the economy? Thanks for confirming that.
Now why not have the government spend on things besides war to also help the economy?
And I am confused by your statement that workers will not work longer weeks. What does that have to do with anything? And who says workers will not work longer weeks or longer hours? And if this is so, why not just hire more workers?
Maybe we should go back to the days when they had small kids working in factories for eighty or more hours a week. Is that you wish?
Give us an example of what you'd like the goverment to spend money on?

Instead of the normal hours worked in a year being 2080, would you be ok with increasing that amount? Either by longer work days or less days off? Hire more workers? Gee, why didn't I think of that instead of trying to turn a profit.

And the kid thing Mike, those are your words, not mine. Not my wish at all.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#25794 Oct 29, 2012
Silvercoastcorks wrote:
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Right. How long have we been in Japan, Germany, and Korea again?
Never mind any other bases in Europe. Iraq was a good chance to establish a democracy in the Middle East.
Those wars were very, very different. There was clear cease fire agreements or outright surrender. Not in the case of Iraq.

I thought we are keeping some bases in Iraq.

Democracy in some of these places is not always good for America. And I do not think it is our job to make the world a democracy. I am not for being the worlds police. It is one thing to help out here and there, but invading a country just to make a democracy? Not worth the American lives and money.

And I can see, republicans refuse to pay for the war they wanted.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#25795 Oct 29, 2012
Silvercoastcorks wrote:
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Give us an example of what you'd like the goverment to spend money on?
Instead of the normal hours worked in a year being 2080, would you be ok with increasing that amount? Either by longer work days or less days off? Hire more workers? Gee, why didn't I think of that instead of trying to turn a profit.
And the kid thing Mike, those are your words, not mine. Not my wish at all.
2080? What is that number from or for? Last I checked, a forty hour work week was the norm. Working someone more than that does not increase profits. Overtime cost the business more, not less.

And if you do find a way to explain working more hours increases profit, why is that good for America? Profit for a company if earned on decreasing money for workers does not equate to an increase of the economy. Workers spending money can increase the economy.

And again, I would love to see a statistic that shows your claim of workers refusing to work more hours.

I would like to see more money spent on education and sciences.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#25796 Oct 29, 2012
Silvercoastcorks wrote:
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You have failed to show how it is not a solution. So your answer is invalid.
I win.
Or better yet, your answer is a cop out.
Having TSF give a few extra dollars to the government is not going to reduce the deficit to any degree that would change anything.

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#25797 Oct 29, 2012
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>Those wars were very, very different. There was clear cease fire agreements or outright surrender. Not in the case of Iraq.
I thought we are keeping some bases in Iraq.
Democracy in some of these places is not always good for America. And I do not think it is our job to make the world a democracy. I am not for being the worlds police. It is one thing to help out here and there, but invading a country just to make a democracy? Not worth the American lives and money.
And I can see, republicans refuse to pay for the war they wanted.
How are those wars different than the war on Terrorism?

Because there was fronts and rears? Clear lines of battle??

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#25798 Oct 29, 2012
Silvercoastcorks wrote:
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So do you mike. Keep spinning meat gazer.
Must you use such vulgar analogies? It is really kind of sick. Describing humans as just meat is sick enough.
Slander just makes you look weak.

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#25799 Oct 29, 2012
TSF wrote:
Romney did the same thing to Georgetown Steel in Georgetown SC
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Sad, how so many think, that type, business practise is perfect for a President....Sorry if you or friends, worked at Georgetown Steel? Bottomline is, it's all about Greed....that is the enemy....

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#25800 Oct 29, 2012
Silvercoastcorks wrote:
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So do you mike.
I do not pay money to watch a sun rise. If you would like to explain your claim, I would love to hear it.

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#25801 Oct 29, 2012
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>2080? What is that number from or for? Last I checked, a forty hour work week was the norm. Working someone more than that does not increase profits. Overtime cost the business more, not less.
And if you do find a way to explain working more hours increases profit, why is that good for America? Profit for a company if earned on decreasing money for workers does not equate to an increase of the economy. Workers spending money can increase the economy.
And again, I would love to see a statistic that shows your claim of workers refusing to work more hours.
I would like to see more money spent on education and sciences.
Here Mike. 40 hour work week. 52 weeks in a year. 40x52 = 2080.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#25802 Oct 29, 2012
Silvercoastcorks wrote:
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How are those wars different than the war on Terrorism?
Because there was fronts and rears? Clear lines of battle??
There is no nation state that will surrender in the war on terror.
But in the case of Iraq, it is not so much about terrorism, but insurgents. Not exactly the same.
The failed strategy of attack Bush had in Iraq, created an insurgency right off the bat and thus it flourished to numbers that could not be eradicated.
Bush was told by some high level advisers to send more troops at first. He ignored the advisers. As you would say, Bush was in charge.

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