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“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#23001 Oct 13, 2012
Makin bacon wrote:
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Mike, you can call me whatever you want to because I don't respect you. The fact you need to lie to defend or win over support for your political or lack of religious beliefs that you have to sacrifice whatever moral backbone you have is pathetic. I don't respect you because you're a liar with no moral backbone. If you're disagreeing with me, I'm doing something right.
Again you refuse to answer the question. I do not ask you respect me.

We know you said you do not believe black people should marry white people. Word it how you wish. Just tell us your stance on interracial marriage?
If you do not wish for us to misconstrue your words, then tell us in your own words? Tell us how you feel about interracial marriage?

“ We are not permanent”

Since: Oct 08

Gaston County

#23002 Oct 13, 2012
Arnold-Ziffel wrote:
<quoted text>The same reason that everybody who can afford to pay higher taxes fights not too. If you already have everything, what more do you really need? Why does their patriotism stop with the dollar? Is this not excessive greed? Is there no compassion for those whose needs are many?
It has been said time and time again that the government does not have a revenue problem, it has a spending problem.

The government could confiscate 100% of all the revenue for incomes above $250K and it would only last months.

Politicians, news media people and leftists in general entertain what they like to call a "zero elasticity view of the world". That means they think that government can impose a tax and people will behave after the tax just as they behaved before the tax, and the only change is more government revenue. History has shown this not to be the case. Instead, whether taxes are high or low, people make adjustments in their economic behavior so as to keep the government tax take at 15 to 20 percent of the GDP regardless of what taxes the government implies.

So as "some" push Congress to prey on the rich, keep in mind that rich people didn't become rich by being stupid.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#23003 Oct 13, 2012
emlu wrote:
<quoted text>"We all" didn't know that, "Mormon religion IS full" "until the seventies", does that mean, still racist and just enduring it since the seventies or Mormon religion WAS full of racists UNTIL the seventies? To me, sounds contradictory.
I guess when you take my statement and move cherry pick parts of sentences and connect them to other sentences, you can make them sound contradictory.
But if you leave my statement as is, it does not contradict.
Now just were do you see me stating Mormons were racist until the seventies? It says they did not allow blacks to be in the higher ranks until the seventies.
Allowing them into the higher ranks does not mean the members suddenly became non racist overnight.
The official church position fell to pressures of our societal norms and view of morality.
Does this mean the members did?
I know some members of the Mormon religion are not racists.
I know this because my stepmother is Mormon and she is not racist.
I know this because when I was a child in the seventies, I asked her why we do not allow blacks in our church. She told me the story of what Mormons believe about blacks being cursed by god with black skin because of their ancestors warring with the good people in the days of the book of Mormon story.
She then explained she does not really agree with the official church position of condemning blacks due to what their ancestors did.
The times I lived with her, she raised me to not be racist.

She was not raised in the church, so I think her non Mormon upbringing kept her from the more typical racist views of Mormons.

I know from personal experience in the church, the members were racist.
Have they all changed? I cannot say for sure. I would hope and wish so, but knowing human nature and how traditions of family views go, many are likely still racist.

Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>So now you are trying to tell us you are fine with interracial marriage?
And I see you still have not addressed the main point of my post.
We all know you object to interracial marriage. I know you are on a mission to blur that point by playing semantics.
Fact is, you are a racist. Your party is full of racists.
The Mormon religion is full of racists. They did not even allow blacks to hold any elevated positions in their church as a matter of policy until the seventies.
Now we know Ryan wants to make his religious superstitions law.
I wonder if Mitt wants to make his religious superstitions law.

Since: Dec 11

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#23004 Oct 13, 2012
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>Again you refuse to answer the question. I do not ask you respect me.
We know you said you do not believe black people should marry white people. Word it how you wish. Just tell us your stance on interracial marriage?
If you do not wish for us to misconstrue your words, then tell us in your own words? Tell us how you feel about interracial marriage?
Asked and answered. Get "we" to help you find the post. In your words, "I'm not doing your research for you."

Since: Dec 11

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#23005 Oct 13, 2012
The Enemy Within wrote:
<quoted text>
It has been said time and time again that the government does not have a revenue problem, it has a spending problem.
The government could confiscate 100% of all the revenue for incomes above $250K and it would only last months.
Politicians, news media people and leftists in general entertain what they like to call a "zero elasticity view of the world". That means they think that government can impose a tax and people will behave after the tax just as they behaved before the tax, and the only change is more government revenue. History has shown this not to be the case. Instead, whether taxes are high or low, people make adjustments in their economic behavior so as to keep the government tax take at 15 to 20 percent of the GDP regardless of what taxes the government implies.
So as "some" push Congress to prey on the rich, keep in mind that rich people didn't become rich by being stupid.
Excellent point TEW, unfortunately this common sense thinking doesn't fit into the liberal's socialist/communist ideology.
Can't wait to hear the liberal spin though.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#23006 Oct 13, 2012
The Enemy Within wrote:
<quoted text>
It has been said time and time again that the government does not have a revenue problem, it has a spending problem.
The government could confiscate 100% of all the revenue for incomes above $250K and it would only last months.
Politicians, news media people and leftists in general entertain what they like to call a "zero elasticity view of the world". That means they think that government can impose a tax and people will behave after the tax just as they behaved before the tax, and the only change is more government revenue. History has shown this not to be the case. Instead, whether taxes are high or low, people make adjustments in their economic behavior so as to keep the government tax take at 15 to 20 percent of the GDP regardless of what taxes the government implies.
So as "some" push Congress to prey on the rich, keep in mind that rich people didn't become rich by being stupid.
This is why Obama is for cutting taxes. Just not all taxes. He is also for cutting spending.
Republicans often block the spending cuts he wants like military cuts.
Yes, there is a spending problem. Both parties are guilty of it.
It is more of a problem when the economy is doing well and the spending is increased as in the case with Bush.
That is when the deficits could have been reduced as in the case with Clinton.

In a recession, spending needs to happen just to keep the recession from increasing. It has worked so far. It is not meant to end a recession, that is all on the free market.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#23007 Oct 13, 2012
Makin bacon wrote:
<quoted text>
Asked and answered. Get "we" to help you find the post. In your words, "I'm not doing your research for you."
Bullshit. You have not answered the question. Keep running from your racists comments all you wish. It only makes you to be the liar.

You are against interracial marriage. You believe the bible says it is wrong.

Just answer the question and I will drop it.
What are your views on interracial marriage?

Since: Dec 11

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#23009 Oct 13, 2012
Let's get back to VP Joey's lies during his debate. He first referred to the wars as "your wars" ,(referring to Ryan/Republicans), then said he wasn't for the wars.
According to fact check, Joey voted to support the wars in '02! Doesn't that make it "our wars"? And lets see, he voted for them but he's not for them? WTF?
He said before the debate that he was going to expose the party of liars, I think he made the Republicans proud.
Poor Joey, he must be suffering from dementia.

Since: Sep 12

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#23010 Oct 13, 2012
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>I guess when you take my statement and move cherry pick parts of sentences and connect them to other sentences, you can make them sound contradictory.
But if you leave my statement as is, it does not contradict.
Now just were do you see me stating Mormons were racist until the seventies? It says they did not allow blacks to be in the higher ranks until the seventies.
Allowing them into the higher ranks does not mean the members suddenly became non racist overnight.
The official church position fell to pressures of our societal norms and view of morality.
Does this mean the members did?
I know some members of the Mormon religion are not racists.
I know this because my stepmother is Mormon and she is not racist.
I know this because when I was a child in the seventies, I asked her why we do not allow blacks in our church. She told me the story of what Mormons believe about blacks being cursed by god with black skin because of their ancestors warring with the good people in the days of the book of Mormon story.
She then explained she does not really agree with the official church position of condemning blacks due to what their ancestors did.
The times I lived with her, she raised me to not be racist.
She was not raised in the church, so I think her non Mormon upbringing kept her from the more typical racist views of Mormons.
I know from personal experience in the church, the members were racist.
Have they all changed? I cannot say for sure. I would hope and wish so, but knowing human nature and how traditions of family views go, many are likely still racist.
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>So now you are trying to tell us you are fine with interracial marriage?
And I see you still have not addressed the main point of my post.
We all know you object to interracial marriage. I know you are on a mission to blur that point by playing semantics.
Fact is, you are a racist. Your party is full of racists.
The Mormon religion is full of racists. They did not even allow blacks to hold any elevated positions in their church as a matter of policy until the seventies.
Now we know Ryan wants to make his religious superstitions law.
I wonder if Mitt wants to make his religious superstitions law.
You don't like answering questions do you? Let me put it another way, now that the Mormon church will allow "blacks" to hold elevated positions, as they have for the last thirty years, in their church, do you still regard the Mormon church as racist? Spin Mike, it's spin.

Since: Sep 12

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#23011 Oct 13, 2012
Makin bacon wrote:
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Asked and answered. Get "we" to help you find the post. In your words, "I'm not doing your research for you."
Hey Bacon, did ya find boots yet? Hope you are well.

Since: Dec 11

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#23012 Oct 13, 2012
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>Bullshit. You have not answered the question. Keep running from your racists comments all you wish. It only makes you to be the liar.
You are against interracial marriage. You believe the bible says it is wrong.
Just answer the question and I will drop it.
What are your views on interracial marriage?
Mike, you have me confused with someone that gives a damn if you drop the questioning. I answered this question before and just to give you something to bitch about, I'll not do it again. You answer for me, so there's no need for me to answer. When you answer for others as you do Mike, you get the answer you like. For you, that's another reason to bitch. So bitch on bitch.

“ We are not permanent”

Since: Oct 08

Gaston County

#23013 Oct 13, 2012
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>This is why Obama is for cutting taxes. Just not all taxes. He is also for cutting spending.
Republicans often block the spending cuts he wants like military cuts.
Yes, there is a spending problem. Both parties are guilty of it.
It is more of a problem when the economy is doing well and the spending is increased as in the case with Bush.
That is when the deficits could have been reduced as in the case with Clinton.

In a recession, spending needs to happen just to keep the recession from increasing. It has worked so far. It is not meant to end a recession, that is all on the free market.
What are the new tax cuts Obama's campaigning for? All I am hearing him say is that Romney is for taxing the middle class in favor of the rich.

And Obama claiming to not raise taxes is NOT a tax cut.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#23014 Oct 13, 2012
emlu wrote:
<quoted text>I like to hear you "bitch" Mike, it keeps letting me know and it reaffirms that I'm still in the land of freedom to bitch and freedom to believe my superstitions. I don't like the alternative. So I'll stay right here and listen to you bitch. I don't have to like it, I'm just glad you can do it.
I am glad I am free to bitch about religion also. It was not always that way. I am glad secularists made it that way.
I am glad you have the freedom to believe in the god you wish. I am glad I have the freedom to not believe. It was not always that way.

There were times when if a person bitched about religion, they would hang him on a cross. There was a time when if someone bitched about Christianity, they would torture and kill them like they still do at times in the middle east.

What changed all that for us? Secularism.

In Revelations, it is said god/Jesus will return to earth and rule. It is said all must believe, follow and worship him or be killed and sent to hell.
The god of the bible is not secular.

Read Deuteronomy 13 and see what I mean about religious freedom.
The bible is not pro-religious freedom.

So I suppose your views are not that of the bible.Thank god.

“Vote”

Since: May 12

Houston

#23015 Oct 13, 2012
LU maybe the question you should ask the Christian denominations is this: Do you believe Joseph Smith is a prophet?I don't.Not in any way, shape, or form.I've been thinking about this forty feet off of the ground.This is a huge tree and i'm just about to go back up.In my humble opinion Mormons are not a Christians.Joseph Smith is a false prophet.Let the fun begin....

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#23016 Oct 13, 2012
The Enemy Within wrote:
<quoted text>
What are the new tax cuts Obama's campaigning for? All I am hearing him say is that Romney is for taxing the middle class in favor of the rich.
And Obama claiming to not raise taxes is NOT a tax cut.
http://articles.boston.com/201 2-10-08/politics/34306708_1_ta x-cuts-payroll-tax-amount-of-a nnual-tax/3

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#23017 Oct 13, 2012

“Arch Nemisis of Democrats”

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#23018 Oct 13, 2012
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>Please explain how being a non believer in superstitions is superstitious?
You claim my blind faith in a God is superstitious to you, well, you not having blind faith in a God is superstitious to me.

Understand now?

Should I go get a dictionary to help you with the bigger words?

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#23019 Oct 13, 2012
Makin bacon wrote:
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Mike, you have me confused with someone that gives a damn if you drop the questioning. I answered this question before and just to give you something to bitch about, I'll not do it again. You answer for me, so there's no need for me to answer. When you answer for others as you do Mike, you get the answer you like. For you, that's another reason to bitch. So bitch on bitch.
I answered for you? Yes, I did, so I guess that proves you agree with my answer. You are against interracial marriage. You are thus a racist.
I know you hate being called a racist,because it is not socially acceptable to be racist. But your views are racist.

You clearly refuse to state your views on interracial marriage because you know they will be viewed by the new people here as racist.
We know how you like to chum up the new people and try to hide your views from them so they will be on your side.

I am sure if the new people are wise, they will see your refusal to answer is an admittance of guilt.

Since: Sep 12

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#23020 Oct 13, 2012
waco1909 wrote:
LU maybe the question you should ask the Christian denominations is this: Do you believe Joseph Smith is a prophet?I don't.Not in any way, shape, or form.I've been thinking about this forty feet off of the ground.This is a huge tree and i'm just about to go back up.In my humble opinion Mormons are not a Christians.Joseph Smith is a false prophet.Let the fun begin....
I'm not Mormon, therefore know nothing of the Mormon "doctrine" so to speak. I've read historical books, he was a "hard person".

Since: Dec 11

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#23021 Oct 13, 2012
waco1909 wrote:
LU maybe the question you should ask the Christian denominations is this: Do you believe Joseph Smith is a prophet?I don't.Not in any way, shape, or form.I've been thinking about this forty feet off of the ground.This is a huge tree and i'm just about to go back up.In my humble opinion Mormons are not a Christians.Joseph Smith is a false prophet.Let the fun begin....
Waco, you're a big boy, why don't you ask the christian denominations? Lu's, a big girl, I believe she can ask her own questions.

For this chrisitian denomination here, I don't believe Mormons are christian, but then again I don't think a lot of people that are what you consider "orthodox christians" are either. Joseph Smith is a false prophet and plenty of the televangelists are too. So, there you go Waco, you've solved the mystery. You're as deserving of a Nobel Peace Prize as Ocrock or Al Gordhead for this enlightening information. Don't fall on your head when you climb back in the tree, could make for a bad day and night :)

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