Golden Gate Bridge suicide barrier re...

Golden Gate Bridge suicide barrier ready to go, money needed

There are 100 comments on the Marin Independent Journal story from Feb 12, 2010, titled Golden Gate Bridge suicide barrier ready to go, money needed. In it, Marin Independent Journal reports that:

Golden Gate Bridge directors on Friday gave a landmark approval to a suicide barrier for the span, setting the stage for construction if money can be found.

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SR One

United States

#23 Feb 13, 2010
If people are intent on taking their lives they will do it one way or another. Let 'em leap from this spectacular, internationally-famous landmark. What a way to go. Maybe a special diving platform could be constructed instead of a costly barrier. The GGB District could even charge a fee to such users or their survivors for the privilege. The district could also sell broadcast rights for a reality TV series! This could be a great revenue source.
Martina2

Santa Rosa, CA

#24 Feb 13, 2010
Paul Dobson wrote:
Ooooo! If it worked in Bern, Switzerland it must definitely work here. Of course, something said to cost about $50 million and take three years to build will of course end up costing half again as much in twice the time. But what the hell, by that time the toll will be at least $12 with carpoolers being charged $10. Al Boro was right when he lauded the unanimous vote as a "truly historical event." How else could one describe the headlong expansion of the nanny state at a time when we can least afford it. Maybe we should sell some barrier bonds to China.
It works in Switzerland because it's ... it's Switzerland! We're to f***ing stupid to get anything done the right way any more.
Pitchforks and Torches

Novato, CA

#25 Feb 13, 2010
(from an earlier post)
After passing the $50 Mil budget Tab, they are now going to consider where and how to get the money. NEWS FLASH; Cut enough out of your Salaries & Pensions to do it, if you think it is that critical! No MORE FEE INCREASES! If they have to do this, "poof" no Net!
Pobre Ustedes
tramky

Vacaville, CA

#26 Feb 13, 2010
The travesty continues. This is the wrong thing to do. FIFTY MILLION DOLLARS!!! And ongoing maintenance!! Are you kidding me??!!

This will be an enormous structure running the entire length of the bridge. How much of ongoing bridge maintenance funds will be consumed by this net? We hear nothing about this question.

The best solution to preventing suicides on the GG Bridge is to put up a couple of simple fences or gates, one at each end of the bridge and prohibiting anyone from walking onto or across the bridge. Just ban all pedestrian access. That will cost only a thousand bucks and will be 100% effective in preventing suicides. Siknce pedestrians pay nothing to go on the bridge, this ultimate solution has zero effect on bridge revenue. Let's see,$1000 compared to FIFTY MILLION. Seems like a no-brainer.

Why doesn't the IJ publish an artist's rendering of the view from the bridge, looking down, with this planned net in place? Let's see what this will look like. So far we have seen nothing on this, only vague verbal assurances that this is just fine for the so-called aesthetics of the bridge.
Gwen Volkman

San Rafael, CA

#27 Feb 13, 2010
Most of the suicides lived in the Bay Area. How are we treating people here to make them want to do this?

Here's a clue, California Supreme Court, stop strip searching people.

Did you notice their eyes look like those of rape victims and dead people? It's like having to mourn your own death.

Get a clue, stupid government! Vote them out!
tramky

Vacaville, CA

#28 Feb 13, 2010
There are documents on the GG Bridge District's Website that describe all kinds of studies made on the suicid barrier proposals.

One of these documents is devoted to the impact on birds. The now-approved net design is established in the bird study as a likely attraction for birds, particularly sea gulls and cormorants. I don't remember seeing anything about pigeons, which would be a huge gap.

The study suggests that birds will likely try nest on the net. To help prevent this, the suggestion is made to use the 'largest mesh possible', whatever that means.

Furthermore, it suggests that studies will be conducted after the net is installed for 6 months or a year and beyond. If the studies show an serious adverse impact on the life of birds, the design of the net system may be altered and a new net of different design installed.

If that happens, is that ANOTHER FIFTY MILLION DOLLARS??!! To replace the then year-old net that turns out to be bad for birds??!!

The IJ is NOT reporting these nice little, VERY expensive details to the public. It is a disgrace.
No Barrier

San Jose, CA

#29 Feb 13, 2010
It is sad that people want to end it, but this is not a solution for sure.

I wonder how much the nets will weigh, what are they made of? And will it effect the bridge during high winds. Just a thought, or actually a question...

I am all for the the divider on the GGB FIRST!
scotty

San Rafael, CA

#30 Feb 13, 2010
it is a disgrace...how can anyone think this is worth doing...it really is a joke...they would jump into the net and then back out...i bet you would get more jumpers...some of them would jump in the net and freeze...then we can shut the bridge down for 3 hours while they try to make him or her change his mind...you would get a dozen idiots a year that just jump in the net for attention..
idea

San Anselmo, CA

#31 Feb 13, 2010
for a $100 a diving board would better serve the tax payers.
Marin Money Watcher

San Rafael, CA

#32 Feb 13, 2010
Need to pay for the barrier? Get rid of some of those Bridge District Employees who are overpaid.
The public information officer makes over $120k. Crazy.
Native Marinite

San Rafael, CA

#33 Feb 13, 2010
"Golden Gate Bridge suicide barrier ready to go, money needed"

Huh?
Government speak
If you haven't got the money you aren't ready

A historical event for the goodness of mankind would be if Boro resigned and San Rafael could be rid of him
scotty

San Rafael, CA

#34 Feb 13, 2010
Marin Money Watcher wrote:
Need to pay for the barrier? Get rid of some of those Bridge District Employees who are overpaid.
The public information officer makes over $120k. Crazy.
we need to get rid of the brainless that work at the bridge district...not one of them is worth $120k a year.....they have no money for the dam net....are they all nuts or just stupid.
tramky

Vacaville, CA

#35 Feb 13, 2010
"For whatever reason, suicidal people don't want to hurt themselves, they want to kill themselves," said Denis Mulligan, the bridge's chief engineer.

What the HECK is THIS??!! An engineer lecturingus about suicides & psychology. What is Mulligan's qualification to say one single word about suicide? Does he have a sociology degree? A psychology degree? Is Mulligan a psychiatrist?

Just look at what is going on here, people. It is LUDICROUS!

But the Chief Engineer of the Bridge DOES have a vested interest in construction & maintenance projects on the bridge--and for someone in his lofty position, the more, the merrier.

Watch the money, folks. FIFTY MILLION DOLLARS going straight into engineer, construction & eternal maintenance--all of which is under Mulligan's control.

This is ALL about preventing suicides. What a pack of vicious liars. As I've written before, they can prevent all suicides on the bridge by spending maybe $1000--just put up a fence at both ends of the bridge's walkways--just keep everyone off the bridge.

I actually saw the Photoshopped depictions of the net in the district's documents, and it is DREADFUL. How many of YOU have seen their doctored photos? How many of you have read their own studies regarding birds and the net? Probably NONE of you, because the IJ isn't reporting ANY of those nasty little details. Another inconvenient truth. No, no, just give us $50 million, shut up & be happy.

No, no, NO!
scotty

San Rafael, CA

#36 Feb 13, 2010
tramky wrote:
"For whatever reason, suicidal people don't want to hurt themselves, they want to kill themselves," said Denis Mulligan, the bridge's chief engineer.
What the HECK is THIS??!! An engineer lecturingus about suicides & psychology. What is Mulligan's qualification to say one single word about suicide? Does he have a sociology degree? A psychology degree? Is Mulligan a psychiatrist?
Just look at what is going on here, people. It is LUDICROUS!
But the Chief Engineer of the Bridge DOES have a vested interest in construction & maintenance projects on the bridge--and for someone in his lofty position, the more, the merrier.
Watch the money, folks. FIFTY MILLION DOLLARS going straight into engineer, construction & eternal maintenance--all of which is under Mulligan's control.
This is ALL about preventing suicides. What a pack of vicious liars. As I've written before, they can prevent all suicides on the bridge by spending maybe $1000--just put up a fence at both ends of the bridge's walkways--just keep everyone off the bridge.
I actually saw the Photoshopped depictions of the net in the district's documents, and it is DREADFUL. How many of YOU have seen their doctored photos? How many of you have read their own studies regarding birds and the net? Probably NONE of you, because the IJ isn't reporting ANY of those nasty little details. Another inconvenient truth. No, no, just give us $50 million, shut up & be happy.
No, no, NO!
WE NEED A BIG SHAKE UP OF THIS BRIDGE DISTRICT NOW.
Disgusted

United States

#37 Feb 14, 2010
Don't allow walking across the bridge. Save lots of $$$ and save the birds.

Build the barrior to save our lives. We want to live. Simple.
WhatIsIt

United States

#38 Feb 15, 2010
tramky, an engineer doesn't need a psychology degree to know the facts about suicide. We don't need one either, just keep up with long-established facts: a lot of suicides are impulsive, 90%+ of the people who are stopped don't kill themselves later, the Bridge is a suicide magnet, & suicides cost us more in a lot of ways than that net will.
tramky

Vacaville, CA

#39 Feb 15, 2010
An engineer should not be making public pronouncements as a representative of the District about suicide or anything else involving psychology, medicine, pharmaceuticals or anything else. Is this engineer's expertise in abnormal psychology and suicide represented by appropriate degrees, credentials & experience? I think not.

The Chief Engineer is about to see his budget increase by FIFTY MILLION DOLLARS, which I can assure you would encourage him to speak about celestial mechanics and neuroradiology if it would further his interests.
U cant handle the truth

San Francisco, CA

#40 Feb 15, 2010
Maybe Sutter can pay for this with the hundreds of millions they've looted from Marin? After all, they care about Marin, right?
tramky

Vacaville, CA

#41 Feb 15, 2010
Ha!! There you go. Think outside the box. The mental health industry should pay for this scheme.

But that's not really the point. This scheme will serve to wreck the bridge, adding difficult maintenance activities to the Bridge District for something--a VERY expensive something--that actually serves no physical function--it is intended as a psychological measure whose very presence is supposed to end thoughts of suicide.

And that is the entire problem with this scam.
Pot Smoking Moronite

Pilot Hill, CA

#42 Feb 15, 2010
Timeenough wrote:
Put in a head on collision barrier already!
Volunteers jump, drivers die unwillingly.
Well said, what a bunch of failures the GGB Board of Directors. Corruption at its finest.

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