What climate change?

What climate change?

There are 76 comments on the Jamaica Observer story from Jun 26, 2013, titled What climate change?. In it, Jamaica Observer reports that:

SUMMER has officially begun. Still, temperatures recorded in some European countries yesterday morning told stories of a continent that remains gripped by the cold claws of winter.

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bozgorashu

Arad, Romania

#4 Jun 29, 2013
Picking up my tinfoil hat (used it the last time on TRM).

The Pacific Garbage patch is well known. I also appreciate your post in Hungary's forum (hint: it's landlocked - i.e. no seas or oceans here).

Global warming it's happening as we speak.

TheRealMagyar

Since: Sep 12

In your mind.

#5 Jun 30, 2013
bozgorashu wrote:
The Pacific Garbage patch is well known. I also appreciate your post in Hungary's forum (hint: it's landlocked - i.e. no seas or oceans here).
Dont say that, we had a coastline for longer than we didnt have a coastline. And the Balaton counts for something.

Remember that 1920-1944 we were ruled by an Admiral.
rio

Bromley, UK

#6 Jun 30, 2013
TheRealMagyar wrote:
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Dont say that, we had a coastline for longer than we didnt have a coastline. And the Balaton counts for something.
Remember that 1920-1944 we were ruled by an Admiral.
You are talking of the time when Austria was an empire (Habsburg) ruling the Balkans and the North of Italy, with access to the Adriatic and the Mediteranea.

Well, you lost the war (which you started!) and all these territories.
Horthy became just the admiral of a fleet of toy ships in his bath!

TheRealMagyar

Since: Sep 12

In your mind.

#7 Jul 1, 2013
rio wrote:
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You are talking of the time when Austria was an empire (Habsburg) ruling the Balkans and the North of Italy, with access to the Adriatic and the Mediteranea.
Well, you lost the war (which you started!) and all these territories.
Horthy became just the admiral of a fleet of toy ships in his bath!
You total and utter moron

1) Map of Europe in 1200
http://www.euratlas.net/history/europe/1200/1...

Does Hungary have a coastline? Yep
Do I see Habsburg or Austria on the map? Nope.

2) Hungary did not start WW1, we were actually one of the few countries to be against it, and we tried to solve it peacefully. unlike Britian, France, Serbia, Germany, Russia, etc, we had NO territorial ambitions at all.
rio

Bromley, UK

#8 Jul 1, 2013
TheRealMagyar wrote:
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You total and utter moron
1) Map of Europe in 1200
http://www.euratlas.net/history/europe/1200/1...
Does Hungary have a coastline? Yep
Do I see Habsburg or Austria on the map? Nope.
2) Hungary did not start WW1, we were actually one of the few countries to be against it, and we tried to solve it peacefully. unlike Britian, France, Serbia, Germany, Russia, etc, we had NO territorial ambitions at all.
Austria was successor of the Holy Empire Roman and Germanic; it renamed itself the Austro-Hungarian Empire after being defeated by Napoleon, and later Prussia at the Battle of Sadowa in the 19th century.
Ruled by the Habsburg, it incorporated Hungary before WWI. Austria and Hungary were two nations under the same crown, just like England and Scotland are part of a United Kingdom.
The Austro-Hungarian Empire was responsible for starting WWI. The Empire annexed territories in the Balkans and organised army exercise to threaten neighbouring countries - like Serbia.
After the assassination at Sarajevo, the A-H empire grossly over-reacted by declaring war, triggering several defense alliances involving Germany, Russia, France or Britain.
Prior to WWI, the Austro-Hungarian Empire did nothing but trying to expand and annex small countries which it exploited.
rio

Bromley, UK

#9 Jul 1, 2013
TheRealMagyar wrote:
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Hungary did not start WW1,
Hungary as part of the Austro-Hungarian Empire was responsible for WWI.

Then, an Austrian corporal was responsible for WWII !!

TheRealMagyar

Since: Sep 12

In your mind.

#10 Jul 2, 2013
You are an ignorant Brit projecting your ignorance. Read my post above and learn.

Your arrogance and nerve to show up in this section offends me.
rio

Bromley, UK

#11 Jul 2, 2013
TheRealMagyar wrote:
You are an ignorant Brit projecting your ignorance. Read my post above and learn.
Your arrogance and nerve to show up in this section offends me.
Don't also forget to say that Admiral Horthy was also a dictator who sided with Hitler during WWII !

TheRealMagyar

Since: Sep 12

In your mind.

#12 Jul 2, 2013
You are a moron.

1) Horthy was not a dictator. Hungary had regular ELECTIONS and was a multyparty system. The country was run by the Prime Minister, Horthy's role was not that different to the Queen of England today, maybe Horthy had a little bit more influence.

2) Horthy did not side with Hitler, Horthy hated Nazism.
rio

Bromley, UK

#13 Jul 2, 2013
TheRealMagyar wrote:
You are a moron.
1) Horthy was not a dictator. Hungary had regular ELECTIONS and was a multyparty system. The country was run by the Prime Minister, Horthy's role was not that different to the Queen of England today, maybe Horthy had a little bit more influence.
2) Horthy did not side with Hitler, Horthy hated Nazism.
Horthy was a conservative who hated liberalism and democracy. He called himself Regent, a title close to his monarchist views. Horthy banned several political parties, closed newspapers and tried to stamp out opposition to his authoritarian regime.

Horthy was Hitler's ally from 1941. Hungary received territories taken from neighbouring countries by the NAZIs.
Hungary was called "the Jackal of Europe".

TheRealMagyar

Since: Sep 12

In your mind.

#14 Jul 3, 2013
1) Hungary had regular elections

2) Only the Nazi and Communist extremist were banned

3) Horthy hated both Nazis and Communists, but found Hitler easier to work with.

4) Horthys compromises with Hitler delayed the inevitable German invasion of Hungary, giving more time for Hungarian Jewry to save themselves

5) The territories we gained from neighbouring countries were LEGALLY ceded and approved by the neighbouring countries. They had Hungarian majorities, and they were originally Hungarian territories STOLEN from us.

6) Horthy was more or less just a figurehead, no different to the King of England at the time.

7) Hungary had more freedom of speech then, than your country has now
rio

Bromley, UK

#15 Jul 3, 2013
TheRealMagyar wrote:
1) Hungary had regular elections
2) Only the Nazi and Communist extremist were banned
3) Horthy hated both Nazis and Communists, but found Hitler easier to work with.
4) Horthys compromises with Hitler delayed the inevitable German invasion of Hungary, giving more time for Hungarian Jewry to save themselves
5) The territories we gained from neighbouring countries were LEGALLY ceded and approved by the neighbouring countries. They had Hungarian majorities, and they were originally Hungarian territories STOLEN from us.
6) Horthy was more or less just a figurehead, no different to the King of England at the time.
7) Hungary had more freedom of speech then, than your country has now
Prior to WWII, there was only ONE democratic country in Eastern and Central Europe; that was Czechoslovakia.
Hungary, like Poland, like Romania, or the Baltic States was a dictatorship. Don't bother to deny it.
Also, on the Russian site, you are quite proud of your extreme right-wing opinions, and of your support for fascism.

TheRealMagyar

Since: Sep 12

In your mind.

#16 Jul 3, 2013
Hungary was demokratic, we had regular elections where many parties were available to vote from, from Conservatives, Social Demokrats, etc...

If Hungary was a Dictatorship, then United Kingdom is also a dictatorship ran by Dictator Queen Elizabeth II !!!!
rio

Bromley, UK

#17 Jul 3, 2013
TheRealMagyar wrote:
If Hungary was a Dictatorship, then United Kingdom is also a dictatorship ran by Dictator Queen Elizabeth II !!!!
Hardly the case.

History books agree that Hungary was an authoritarian regime under Horthy between the 2 world war, mostly from 1933, when it aligned itself with Hitler's Germany.
Most references to Horthy present him as a dictator assuming autocratic power, like the fascists: Horthy even though originally about restoring the absolute monarchy, and proclaimed himself "regent".

One indication is that, unlike its neighbours, Hungary wasn't invaded by the Germans, but collaborated with the Nazis. In fact, Hungary as a reward was allowed to occupy some territories from its neighbours!

As for Great Britain, it's the mother of modern democracy, and it has inspired democracies all over the world. So your comparison is rather ridiculous. We inspired the world, and we were the only nation in Europe that wasn't invaded or collaborated with the Nazis. Alone, we opposed them from the outset, and until we defeated them!

TheRealMagyar

Since: Sep 12

In your mind.

#18 Jul 3, 2013
PROVE that Horthy was Authoritarian!

Horthy served as a WITNESS in the Nuremberg trials. The Americans did not think of him as evil, the Americans even HELPED HIM.

Horthy was ASKED to become a Regent by Bishop Ottokár Prohászka!

"Among 20th-century heads of state, Horthy's role was unique. His official position is usually translated into English as "Regent", but is better translated as "Royal Governor" or "Protector". The Hungarian state was legally a kingdom, but it had no king, and sought none, as the Entente powers would not have tolerated any return of the Habsburgs. The national government actually took the form of a parliamentary republic, with a prime minister at its head. Thus, Horthy was a constitutional figurehead, but he was by no means an impotent one.[16] He reigned, but for the most part did not rule; he wrote no laws, but had powerful influence over his country's destiny by means of his constitutional powers, his prestige, and the loyalty of his ministers to the crown. His regal bearing, military reputation, and devotion to Hungary, lent him a royal authority as the country edged out of its Imperial past towards a modern democracy."

Hungary did not steal any territories. We LEGALLY RECLAIMED territories that were STOLEN FROM US, and had a Hungarian MAJORITY.

You come here into our section, spew utter ignorance, offend us! How dare you!

Get lost from this section you British cochroach, such a shame some nice V2 didnt fck your grandmother in the a55.
rio

Bromley, UK

#19 Jul 3, 2013
TheRealMagyar wrote:
Hungary did not steal any territories. We LEGALLY RECLAIMED territories that were STOLEN FROM US, and had a Hungarian MAJORITY.
Nobody "stole" any territories from Hungary, but the Treaty of Trianon decided to punish Austria and Hungary for having started WWI and conducted a war of aggression against its neighbours, and ethnic minorities in the empire.

Hungary had to give 72% of its land, 64% of its population, all its ports in punishment. Austria and Germany were also punished.
That's how Czechoslovakia and Yugoslavia were born.
rio

Bromley, UK

#20 Jul 3, 2013
TheRealMagyar wrote:
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You come here into our section, spew utter ignorance, offend us! How dare you!
This thread appeared also on the French forum, and I am perfectly in my right in opposing your lies.

You don't mind spewing more lies on the Russian forum, don't you, although you are not Russian. How dare you, coakroch!!

TheRealMagyar

Since: Sep 12

In your mind.

#21 Jul 3, 2013
rio wrote:
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Nobody "stole" any territories from Hungary, but the Treaty of Trianon decided to punish Austria and Hungary for having started WWI and conducted a war of aggression against its neighbours, and ethnic minorities in the empire.
Hungary had to give 72% of its land, 64% of its population, all its ports in punishment. Austria and Germany were also punished.
That's how Czechoslovakia and Yugoslavia were born.
The punishement for Hungary , for a war which we did not start, was beyond any reason . We were responsible for no aggression, you lying two faced piece of sh..t.

Its in the same category as executing a child for looking at a guard the wrong way.

TheRealMagyar

Since: Sep 12

In your mind.

#22 Jul 3, 2013
My God how I would love it for the Nazis to have shelled that Island of yours until it sunk to the bottom of the Ocean where it belongs!

Hitler was too soft with you, he let you go at Dunkirk when he should have slaughtered you all like the pigs that you are.
rio

Bromley, UK

#23 Jul 3, 2013
TheRealMagyar wrote:
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The punishement for Hungary , for a war which we did not start, was beyond any reason . We were responsible for no aggression, you lying two faced piece of sh..t.
Its in the same category as executing a child for looking at a guard the wrong way.
Hungary was part of the Austro-Hungary Empire, the country that started WWI, in reaction to the assassination of the Archduke at Sarajevo. It was a gross over-reaction.
Are you denying that?

In fact the assassination was used as an excuse to take more territories!

Are you denying that the A-H empire conducted a policy of annexation of neighbouring countries (Bosnia in this instance) and constantly threatened its neighbours (Serbia)?

Are you denying the A-H sabre rattling that triggered WWI?
That's why the A-H empire was dismantled and punished by the allies.

Are you blind or are you stupid?

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