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Motorola considers breakup

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#21
Feb 1, 2008
 
What can Motorola do to compete with Asian companies like LG, who produce higher quality and more innovative products? Moto's cost structure is WAY too high, and the level of bureaucracy way too stifling. Stick a fork in them, they're done.
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#22
Feb 1, 2008
 
Most american people believe in the candidates who are running for Congress, Senate, or even the
White House when they promise to bring jobs to their states, counties
and cities.
I always thought that was pure bull.
Now you know who really takes the decision to create jobs here or elsewhere. I agree with JD from CT. When you transfer your outline manufacturing production, R&D Dept, engeenering, etc. overseas, you'll lose control of innovation and even take a risk of industrial spying.
Thousands of american companies are doing the same, shifting production abroad and creating high unemployment here.
I think americans should be more concerned about it and stop whinning
about petty things and trivial topics.
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#23
Feb 2, 2008
 
I agree with your opinion, to cut the price and profit margin is a totally wrong decision. This is the direct action to make Motorola in a bad situation. However, all the top managers knows this terrible thing and no one holds it. They only wait for their stock to reach expected price due to their huge stock holder. Who will pay for this wrong direction? They don't care Motorola, they are really business man
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#24
Feb 6, 2008
 
Brown Hornet wrote:
As an employee of the dinosaur that is Moto, I can tell you that Moto morale has been swirling around the toilet bowl for some time now...
The Upper management b o o b s continue to receive ridiculous salary & bonus packages, while "leading" the company into the proverbial dump. The lower levels of workers have resentment, no morale, many are coasting towards retirement, and others do just enough to not get fired.
So, when numbers aren't hit every quarter, they (mgmt.) cut more heads...of the folks in the trenches that actually DO the work. The upper management idiots that steered the company into the ground with idiotic designs and their questionable choices NEVER seem to lose their job...the culture within the company is one that seems to protect the stupid, while casting out the hard working people trying to get the job done.
I will NOT mourn the loss of the break-up of this company, as upper management brought about its eventual demise.
This is NOT sour grapes...I am still gainfully employed within Motorola, in a business unit that is actually profitable...but the incompetence I see on a daily basis leads me to NOT be surprised by the continuing troubles within Motorola...if management is blind to the incompetence within, why would it be surprising that the stock and company itself has been on a downward spiral?
As an post employee I can tell you the feeling I have. Once I heard this news, you can't image people like me hurted deep. We put everything into it and have a lot fun there. However, due to those top managers the shit guys wrong decision to slip Moto into water. This is why I come out the company and wait for an opportunity to be back. Those poor guys get lots of stocks and huge packages, but only one thing they have done is to reduce the profit margin to increase marketing share, to go up stock and get money, even make stock holders happy. No one really cares for Motorola, this brand and culture. Those lovers such as me love this brand and want to see our phones. You can see something like that 1000 days catch up Nokia is the most ridiculas thing I have seen, no enough analysis and good idea. Just hit his head, he can get an idea. Also hundreds of VPs, we need to work to afford them and listen to their urly idea. Without any scope and fresh thinking, they only stay under the well.
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#25
Feb 6, 2008
 
Pete wrote:
What can Motorola do to compete with Asian companies like LG, who produce higher quality and more innovative products? Moto's cost structure is WAY too high, and the level of bureaucracy way too stifling. Stick a fork in them, they're done.
I Totally agree with you, but those top managers they can do nothing. They under the presssure from those old VPs and they got benefits, also this kind of inovation is difficult. The best way is to build a new company with competitors, like LG or Samsung, structured as Sony Ericsson. LG Motorola or Samsung Motorola can be better, those Asian company have good product and design, most important is that they are good at cost control. Against Carl said to build a new product as Freescale, it only can help Carl to raise stock to his expected price, because he is a stock man. God bless Moto.
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#26
Feb 6, 2008
 
Steve wrote:
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Most of the manufacturing is overseas these days, of course, but the great bulk of the headquarters, R&D, engineering, marketing and other functions, not to mention those functions geared spefically to the bread and butter U.S. and Latin American markets (on the mobile devices side) are located in the U.S.
I don't know what's the impact from overseas manufactory, Moto got a good market expectation and low cost. Like Nokia, Sony ericsson, Samsung and LG are doing that, get benefit. Even though, some peoples like you still has some concerns, this is the weakness for Motorola to be successful. They want to focus on that, but still worry the secret be unveiled and depends on China. Also at this monment, we need to think the future and forget those parochialism.
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#27
Feb 7, 2008
 
If Carl Ican gets into MOT, can he turn around in a year or two.
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#28
Feb 9, 2008
 
The kiddies determine the market worldwide. What's cool in the schoolyard sells. Moto don't hit it. If I see another Z8, Z10, Rizr, Krzr coming I think I'll scream. Motorola have good phones (Razr2)-but they don't have the image to sell. Frankly I don't think the top management has a clue what to do, all I see is sell ECC, sell Mobile Devices and sit around and wait for the end.
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#29
Feb 13, 2008
 
Motorola has to release a lot of phones yearly worldwide, it has to release a number of phones at a time...like the nokia N series....
New looks and designs should come out immediately to save the Moto brand....
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#30
Feb 25, 2008
 
There is no way Moto can regain ground on the world market without looking at what the world is producing.
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#32
Mar 16, 2008
 
Motorola is an innovative company. In the fast changing world electronic products and their technology are passe within years of their launch. 20 years back cell phones were dreams, today pagers are missing, and I guess that no one amongst us would be sure that he would be using a cell phone in 2015. I beleive that their would be something much better than that. To survive motorola needs a long term vision, great products would work for now.
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#33
Mar 16, 2008
 
In spite of so many missed steps they still go on. Never a company so far out of touch with what goes on with the competition. They couldn't hit a target launch date if the future depended on it. Guess the future is finally here. They have garbage phones anyway. They can only give away the cell group.
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#34
Mar 21, 2008
 
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Yeah, just like every other D*&% company. So what's your point?
At least I'd like to still support the few jobs that have not been shipped overseas....yet.
You sure these jobs are not shipped overseas? There are ZILLIONS of similar phone-building jobs that can be found from Beijing to India. These are exactly the same like what those guys do in HQ Moto.
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#35
Mar 21, 2008
 
Motorolan wrote:
Motorola is an innovative company. In the fast changing world electronic products and their technology are passe within years of their launch. 20 years back cell phones were dreams, today pagers are missing, and I guess that no one amongst us would be sure that he would be using a cell phone in 2015. I beleive that their would be something much better than that. To survive motorola needs a long term vision, great products would work for now.
Totally agree.
Here's one word that I think is a good fit to Moto's 'NEW' products in recent years: Jurassic.

The cell-phone market had 'revolutionalized' in tandem with sliding hardware prices where almost everything had become so cheap & yet so powerful.

It is also a shame for loyal MOTO fans who are constantly denied from being told that had bought something worthy (something like the 'Intel Inside' logo or the 'Walkman phone' feature, etc).

As a consumer who has (& will keep having more) multitude of choices, Moto-marketers are not capitalizing on any 'perceived value' at all.

P.S. The craving for slim flip phones that has a metallic-&-glass feel is long gone. How about porcelain, silk or even leather?
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#36
Mar 21, 2008
 
JD from CT wrote:
Any time you outsource your product line overseas you loose control. MOT used to be a brand name. Now it is just a name with no products or direction.
It's a shame that all the hard working employees have to suffer because of these management errors.
Perhaps they should concentrate on software developement rather than hardware and spin this setback off in a positive manner. The US can't compete with the the low cost of manufacturing anymore, however the software is the Key. Connecticut is a good example of how manufacturing has shifted overseas and they have recovered with softer development and financial services. I vote we keep the software jobs in the US and sell off the hardware.
Just take a look at the 'careers' section of other mobile-phone makers. The BULK of them looks for software guys, but those from M? Development Engineers. Consumers like to know what they are paying for and they can tell if there is a genuine improvement vs a fluke.
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Mar 21, 2008
 
Just take a look at the 'careers' section of other mobile-phone makers. The BULK of them looks for software guys, but those from M? Development Engineers. Consumers like to know what they are paying for and they can tell if there is a genuine improvement vs a fluke.
I don't know that I would agree with this statement . I have been out of work since I was laid off from AT&T after AT&T restructured and merged with SBC.
I have noticed that the bulk of hardware type jobs in the wireless industry are looking for specialized workers that have certifications such as Nortel, Cisco, Base Station and RF backgrounds.
These type of jobs cannot be outsource overseas. The US is still going through Cellular Buildout and I think this is a good field to be in.
I just interviewed for a position yesterday at Moto in Schaumburg. Now I also wonder if this job will be temporary.. Here I go again..
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#38
Apr 6, 2008
 
Motorola's big business is NOT cell phones, it's (government contracts) two way radio's for state, county, and local police and fire departments. These radio’s (the
Jedi, Stingray, Cosmo, and Astro 5000 product
lines) and the massive base stations that support them is the financial mainstay of their business.
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#40
Apr 8, 2008
 
luca bratzi wrote:
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They wanted 19 billion for the cell phone business. They had NO takers. If it is only worth 10 billion it is still 20 percent of their gross revenue. That is still a large amount to the bottom line and you must be smoking crack with every one else at Motorola.
Luca,(still swimming with the fishes?) ask yourself this, If it's so profitable then why does the Motorola Management want to dump it? Smoking CRACK,...LOL, Thats a good one.
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Apr 8, 2008
 
spectrabei wrote:
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Luca,(still swimming with the fishes?) ask yourself this, If it's so profitable then why does the Motorola Management want to dump it? Smoking CRACK,...LOL, Thats a good one.
They get beat to market most all the time with new products by their competition; including their 2 way police radio, their upper management is totally out of sync with the markets, and their quality control is abhorrent.
Being a supplier I can speak first hand of their weaknesses. Bottom line is, Motorola could not hit a bull in the aarrssee with a bag of shite if they were standing directly behind it. Now it is finally catching up to them.
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#42
Apr 15, 2008
 
Did employees receive incentive bonuses this year for performance last year? If so, what was it based on?
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