Occupy Charlottesville Holds 'Corporate Greed' Protest - NBC29 WVIR Charlottesville, VA News, Spo...

Occupy Charlottesville was back on the picket line Wednesday, this time going up against cell phone giant Verizon. Full Story
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Walose

Charlottesville, VA

#1 Feb 29, 2012
Get a crappy job like the rest of us.these people have way too much time on .their hands!
I Wonder

Lynch Station, VA

#2 Feb 29, 2012
Ok, NBC29, did you continue reporting the story to see if their claims are based in any truth or are you guilty of just passing on whatever liberal stuff you hear? Just wondering.
Steven

Charlottesville, VA

#3 Feb 29, 2012
That's about six demonstrators. The ranks of the Occutards have been diminished.
TJeff

Charlottesville, VA

#4 Feb 29, 2012
For all you doubters, google "American Legislative Exchange Council and there you will find your answers.

Verizon is one of approx. 250 large corporation members ( Verizon, Koch Ind.,WalMart, Pfizer, ExxonMobil, SmithGlaxoKline, Dow, Monsanto, etc) and also there are 2000 state level lawmaker members, overwhelmingly Republican affiliated ( almost 1/3 of all state legislators).

ALEC provides model legislation on a wide range of topics: tax law, government reform, education, healthcare. They then provide this model legislation to the state lawmaker who introduces it into his/her statehouse. This legislation always benefits some type of corporate entity and not us American citizens ( the real PEOPLE).

Verizon uses tax avoidance manuevers, tax subsidies and property tax assessment appeals to significantly lower their tax liability. They did this so successfully that between 2008 - 2010 that their corporate tax liability was a -2.9%, they actually got money back from the United States.

Locally what this means is that the tax burden is higher on me when Verizon does not pay their fair share by using strategies to lower their overall tax burden. This lowers the revenue the local govt has to use to pay for FIRE POLICE EMS SCHOOL services and leaves us to pay for what these corporations do not pay.

The information is there and it is not just "liberal stuff". BTW we did have 25 people willing to come out in this weather.
TheBeatGoesOn

Floyd, VA

#5 Feb 29, 2012
Go OWS! It is now time to rail against the machine of crony capitalism. Such as in abundance within this administration. Big money bundlers for the DNC & The Prez, the union heads at GM, etc: getting huge bonuses while shareholders, regular folks, grandmas & children's college fund investments are destroyed by "deal making" but pumping those funds back into the political machine.Time to stand against the corrupt DOJ running guns to Mexico and costing thousands of lives south of the border and US border patrol agents and citizens in California, Arizona, Texas and anywhere else the "hot" weapons end up after being sold to murderers. The billions of dollars spent on paying off "pals" in ill failed "business ventures" such as phoney green energy autos which cost way more than the 99%ers can afford and sending more jobs overseas, the funneling of tax monies to Goldman-Sachs (friends of & former employer of Treasury Sec. Timmy Geitner), B.O.A., Freddie & Fannie, sweet deals for others who ran their banks into chaos with [really] bad practices
and so much more corruption, graft and wrongdoing enough for months of protests! When I was an active anti war protester during the late 60's & early 70's, we also went hard at the Nixon administration for the policies which were just plain wrong but this gang of "protesters" seems less than genuine in their intent. Go to the head of the snake to end the injustice! Match the words of the leader to his actions and ask yourselves whether you are better off now under the policies put into place since January 2009. Remember? As an example, back then gasoline cost $1.80 a gallon and look at the upward trend now. Why no outrage as was the case during the "Dumbo Bush" years? What makes today's protesters so unwilling or unable to take the "fight" to the obvious source of much of the worsening conditions in this Country and many others. I pay attention to reports, watch the power brokers use the knuckleheads to feather their own nests while the 995ers bear witness to expensive get-a-ways, at taxpayer expense (such as the use of Air Force 1 & 2 at $180,000 per hour- lot's of fuel, you know) in Hawaii or Vail while people are losing their homes, cutting back on foods (while every Wednesday, for example, parties are the norm at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave with high dollar meals- steak, lobster and more), struggling to buy the gas for the car(s) to get back & forth to work- if they HAVE a job and so much more inequity. Where is the outrage? Why is the OWS movement holding back when the big shot(s) and the powerful continue to live as kings/ queens with their select pals in Hollywood, pro sports and bankers/ wall street big shots come & go through the White House doors to party and make plans for [their] New World (dis)Order?! I'm a bit miffed- no angry- that a group with a "declared war against corruption" has failed to take it to the man. Maybe in my day, we were more serious about "justice" but this crowd subscribes to the mantra,
"we are the ones we've been waiting for". Power to the sheeple! Right On & Left Off...sad really.
More like Occupy Lavatory. Peace, out.

R.I.P. Davey Jones

Since: May 10

Charlottesville, VA

#6 Feb 29, 2012
Here's an idea: Don't get a Verizon contract! What a concept! If you disagree with a corporation, just don't buy their product or service. Then, the NSA can't spy on you with their help.
Just to remind OWS, there's still a lot of people unemployed, and to them, all this corporate greed mantra is bogus. If all the corporations in America are doing so greedy and profitable, why can't they afford the workforce to help make them more money?
TJeff

Charlottesville, VA

#7 Feb 29, 2012
@ Beat, most of what you state holds true for both corporate political parties..... short of revolution what is the solution? where is the third party or fourth party to really give us a choice????
The issues facing us are more complex than one jet or state dinners. The price of gas you speak of....we are using less oil than in years past but the SPECULATORS ( WALL STREET) are holding on to that commodity until the per bbl price hits the stratosphere, what current political party can control this?

Personally I am planning on learning new skills such as sewing, composting, container gardening, those will be more important.
citizen

Charlottesville, VA

#8 Feb 29, 2012
Without so called "corporate greed" who would pay the taxes that feeds the majority of Charlottesville voters that live off welfare, SSDI and public housing?

Trust NBC29 to give top billing to a half dozen marginally employed (if that) waterlogged downtown mall rats on a rainy day.
George S

Hartselle, AL

#9 Feb 29, 2012
TJeff wrote:
For all you doubters, google "American Legislative Exchange Council and there you will find your answers.[etcetera...]

[....] BTW we did have 25 people willing to come out in this weather.
"Doubters"--please, enough with these dumb labels.

25 people were willing to go out and protest. How to do you imagine this constitutes 99% of any definable body of humans within the USA?

The American Legislative Exchange Council consists of legislators and corporate executives--the exact people Occupy protests against. Attempt to grow a brain and catch up with those who actually know what they are talking about.
George S

Hartselle, AL

#10 Feb 29, 2012
TheBeatGoesOn wrote:
Go OWS! It is now time to rail against the machine of crony capitalism.[...etcetera...] Peace, out.
R.I.P. Davey Jones
You protested againt the Vietnam War in the 1960's and talk like teenager on too many sugar cookies. It doeasn't add-up to terrific credibility.

Repeating nearly every silly leftist claim of the past 180 years is simply silly in itself.

There are hospitals where therapy is available for you.
George S

Hartselle, AL

#11 Feb 29, 2012
Imagine these Occupy members spending three weeks on their cellphones, texting, talking to remind each other not to take the cellphones to the big protest day. LOL

Nifty looking CORPORATE clothing to wear before the CORPORATE cameras of the CORPORATE news industry.

Where do they work? It would be long commute to Cuba each morning.

Clowns.
TheBeatGoesOn

Floyd, VA

#12 Mar 1, 2012
George S wrote:
<quoted text>
You protested againt the Vietnam War in the 1960's and talk like teenager on too many sugar cookies. It doeasn't add-up to terrific credibility.
Repeating nearly every silly leftist claim of the past 180 years is simply silly in itself.
There are hospitals where therapy is available for you.
Hey George, you missed the "sarc. on" indicator, which I admit, was not well enough in evidence. I was simply pointing out that OWS is not the first "grass roots, angry crowd" calling for justice. My point was that if they are genuine, they should go for the head of the serpent. That being the hypocrisy of this little (far from the touted 99%) band of cell phone, texting, bang on the drum, mic-checking group of whiners, while actual contributors (working class- white/ blue collar types) are struggling to make ends meet under worsening politically induced hardships. The blame should be directed toward D.C. where the rules are made AND broken. If there truly IS a 1%, they are the ones within the Government who expect to be referred to as "The Honorable...." while being less than honorable.
CvilleGordo

Charlottesville, VA

#13 Mar 1, 2012
TJeff wrote:
For all you doubters, google "American Legislative Exchange Council and there you will find your answers.
Verizon is one of approx. 250 large corporation members ( Verizon, Koch Ind.,WalMart, Pfizer, ExxonMobil, SmithGlaxoKline, Dow, Monsanto, etc) and also there are 2000 state level lawmaker members, overwhelmingly Republican affiliated ( almost 1/3 of all state legislators).
ALEC provides model legislation on a wide range of topics: tax law, government reform, education, healthcare. They then provide this model legislation to the state lawmaker who introduces it into his/her statehouse. This legislation always benefits some type of corporate entity and not us American citizens ( the real PEOPLE).
Verizon uses tax avoidance manuevers, tax subsidies and property tax assessment appeals to significantly lower their tax liability. They did this so successfully that between 2008 - 2010 that their corporate tax liability was a -2.9%, they actually got money back from the United States.
Locally what this means is that the tax burden is higher on me when Verizon does not pay their fair share by using strategies to lower their overall tax burden. This lowers the revenue the local govt has to use to pay for FIRE POLICE EMS SCHOOL services and leaves us to pay for what these corporations do not pay.
The information is there and it is not just "liberal stuff". BTW we did have 25 people willing to come out in this weather.
Um, interesting. Could you explain a little more clearly why evil Republicans are responsible for corporations using all available tax breaks, etc. to their advantage?

And 25 people? You must be counting the stinky ones 5 times each. If you want me to take any of you seriously, why don't you make sure that you are all actually CONTRIBUTING citizens doing your part to make America better. In other words, controbute something other than hot air and unwashed body odors. I'll momentarily overlook the "how do you all have time to stand around?" part for the sake of fairness. And you should get rid of the whacked out dreadlocked creature, your public image has deteriorated into utter silliness.
heh

Charlottesville, VA

#14 Mar 1, 2012
CvilleGordo wrote:
<quoted text>
Could you explain a little more clearly why evil Republicans are responsible for corporations using all available tax breaks, etc. to their advantage?
Because they gave them the tax breaks in return for the corporate 'contributions'. Talk about your favorite word, obtuse!

Take the money out of politics.

“Equal Opportunity Not Results!”

Since: Nov 08

Charlottesville

#15 Mar 1, 2012
Are any of these misguided individuals going to protest Apple since that company surpassed the 500 billion dollar mark which is more than the oil companies? Probably not since I'm sure they all own a mulititude of Apple products.
Captain Obvious

Waynesboro, VA

#16 Mar 1, 2012
Eagle Scout, they're probably all on AT&T anyway as these protesters were probably early adopters of the iPhone.

...yet they won't complain about one of the most greedy and profitable companies of all: Apple.

It's a shame more people didn't learn their life lessons from Baden Powell.

“Equal Opportunity Not Results!”

Since: Nov 08

Charlottesville

#17 Mar 1, 2012
heh wrote:
<quoted text>
Because they gave them the tax breaks in return for the corporate 'contributions'. Talk about your favorite word, obtuse!
Take the money out of politics.
So tell us about all of the tax breaks and government money that is flowing into all of these so called "green energy" companies that have since gone bankrupt. I believe that it was the Democrats that provided those breaks. And let us not forget who controlled the House of Representatives for 40 YEARS prior to the midterm elections of 1994.

“Equal Opportunity Not Results!”

Since: Nov 08

Charlottesville

#18 Mar 1, 2012
Captain Obvious wrote:
Eagle Scout, they're probably all on AT&T anyway as these protesters were probably early adopters of the iPhone.
...yet they won't complain about one of the most greedy and profitable companies of all: Apple.
It's a shame more people didn't learn their life lessons from Baden Powell.
Why is it greed when a company is very successful?
heh

Charlottesville, VA

#20 Mar 1, 2012
C-Ville Patriot wrote:
<quoted text>So tell us about all of the tax breaks and government money that is flowing into all of these so called "green energy" companies that have since gone bankrupt. I believe that it was the Democrats that provided those breaks. And let us not forget who controlled the House of Representatives for 40 YEARS prior to the midterm elections of 1994.
I know energy diversity is anathema to you and conservatives, but the stranglehold you would have big-oil place on us will be our downfall eventually. It is a finite resource, and our high gasoline prices are a result of the world's dependence on it.

The reason many green energy companies are going bankrupt here is that China can make it cheaper, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't keep trying. Many green energy companies are doing quite well, thank you.

“Equal Opportunity Not Results!”

Since: Nov 08

Charlottesville

#21 Mar 1, 2012
heh wrote:
<quoted text>
I know energy diversity is anathema to you and conservatives, but the stranglehold you would have big-oil place on us will be our downfall eventually. It is a finite resource, and our high gasoline prices are a result of the world's dependence on it.
The reason many green energy companies are going bankrupt here is that China can make it cheaper, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't keep trying. Many green energy companies are doing quite well, thank you.
You avoided the truth in my last post. Also oil is traded in US currency. It is a given fact that the more dollars you print the less the dollar is worth and the more dollars it takes to buy oil. Also it cost more to produce all of the various blends of gasoline for all of the different states that have their own requirements. At least consider opposing facts before you blindly spout the Democratic talking points.

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