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Fighting For Her Life: Transgender Woman Charged With Murder

There are 31 comments on the Advocate story from Apr 20, 2012, titled Fighting For Her Life: Transgender Woman Charged With Murder. In it, Advocate reports that:

In light of the Trayvon Martin killing - an incident in which a black youth armed with only a cell phone and pack of Skittles was killed by a white neighborhood patrol member - there's been a whirlwind of media coverage debating the issues of race and justice and occasionally how LGBT folks should or do fit into the mix.

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Frank Stanton

Omaha, NE

#1 Apr 20, 2012
it was self-defense.

ameriKKKa is responsible for the anti-gay climate & culture it has created that lead to the white supremacist dying after he attacked this young lady. but, as usual, the pos white trash is being portrayed as the victim, and the young lady as the menace.

pathetic ameriKKKa. so much hate for honest, hard-working, tax-paying, gay, u.s. citizens.

shame on you ameriKKKa.
Chad

Germany

#4 Apr 20, 2012
Good! Put this filthy freak away for life!

Since: Oct 09

Location hidden

#6 Apr 20, 2012
So he stabbed someone and is being charged big deal. Zimmerman is out on bail and the DA has egg on her face for covering up the truth
Mormon Dead Jew Baptisms

Philadelphia, PA

#8 Apr 20, 2012
Honest AbeL wrote:
So he stabbed someone and is being charged big deal. Zimmerman is out on bail and the DA has egg on her face for covering up the truth
Zimmerman is a pariah who just spent a month in lockup, will have to go bankrupt after the upcoming civil suit, will face death threats for the rest of his life, had to commit a lot to meet the 150k bail, and faces very serious charges while possessing a very shaky set of facts regarding his conduct.

On the other hand, all of that probably is what passes for victory in the minds of outlier homophobes such as yourself these days.

snicker
Mormon Dead Jew Baptisms

Philadelphia, PA

#9 Apr 20, 2012
Chad wrote:
Any time any place queer!
I'll bury your filthy gay azz!
No, no, it's "Focus on the Family," not focus on male anatomy, Jethro.

Besides, we know you're just being metaphorical like rabid Ted Nugent. Whom you could well be.

Since: Oct 09

Location hidden

#10 Apr 20, 2012
Actually Florida's homestead act will protect him from any possible civil suit. Once he gets off on the criminal case he may have a good civil suit himself. The DA was caught covering up evidence. He was released on 150k bail which indicates the judge even doubts it will stick. Sorry fairy boy
Mormon Dead Jew Baptisms wrote:
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Zimmerman is a pariah who just spent a month in lockup, will have to go bankrupt after the upcoming civil suit, will face death threats for the rest of his life, had to commit a lot to meet the 150k bail, and faces very serious charges while possessing a very shaky set of facts regarding his conduct.
On the other hand, all of that probably is what passes for victory in the minds of outlier homophobes such as yourself these days.
snicker

“ TRUTH : NOT EXPEDIENCE”

Since: Nov 07

town near Jax, Fl

#11 Apr 20, 2012
Honest AbeL wrote:
Actually Florida's homestead act will protect him from any possible civil suit. Once he gets off on the criminal case he may have a good civil suit himself. The DA was caught covering up evidence. He was released on 150k bail which indicates the judge even doubts it will stick. Sorry fairy boy
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First, neighborhood watch people don't need to be carrying guns; second, Trayvon was in HIS OWN NEIGHBORHOOD; third, Trayvon had as much reason to fear Zimmerman as Zimmerman had to fear Trayvon; fourth, Zimmerman should not have followed Trayvon without police permission.

Since: Oct 09

Location hidden

#12 Apr 20, 2012
We have a right to carry guns. It wasn't his neighborhood he was visiting his noncustodial father after being suspended from school. Sure Trayvon had as much reason to fear Zimmerman but he didn't have the right to assault him. Neighborhood watch people often follow unrecognizable people that is where they get the watch part from
Catholic created gay wrote:
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First, neighborhood watch people don't need to be carrying guns; second, Trayvon was in HIS OWN NEIGHBORHOOD; third, Trayvon had as much reason to fear Zimmerman as Zimmerman had to fear Trayvon; fourth, Zimmerman should not have followed Trayvon without police permission.
Mormon Dead Jew Baptisms

Philadelphia, PA

#13 Apr 20, 2012
Honest AbeL wrote:
Actually Florida's homestead act will protect him from any possible civil suit. Once he gets off on the criminal case he may have a good civil suit himself. The DA was caught covering up evidence. He was released on 150k bail which indicates the judge even doubts it will stick.
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Hey lying filth, bail only indicates what the risk of flight is. It has nothing to do with a presumption about the charges.

Lie number two hundred of yours just today.

We'll see how the homestead act will apply when it was outside the home. And such protections are not blanket ones. The fact pattern here will not help Zimmerman.

What evidence did the DA cover up? Be specific.

But the main issue is that you were mistaken in your premise: Zimmerman has had a rough ride. He's been locked up for about a month. He's a pariah. And he faces very serious legal consequences. It's no walk in the park for him just because he got bail, as you posted so gleefully. So once again you're nothing more than a bigot, a liar and a cretin.

Since: Oct 09

Location hidden

#14 Apr 20, 2012
Hey lying dirtbag colon cowboy, bail is not simply the risk of flight. There are many factors involved when setting bail. The homestead act has nothing to do with your physical location. OJ moved to Florida due to the protections afforded by the homestead act. The DA had pictures of Zimmerman with blood flowing from the top of his head and failed to include them in evidence. Sorry idiot but someday you may even grow up
Mormon Dead Jew Baptisms wrote:
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Hey lying filth, bail only indicates what the risk of flight is. It has nothing to do with a presumption about the charges.
Lie number two hundred of yours just today.
We'll see how the homestead act will apply when it was outside the home. And such protections are not blanket ones. The fact pattern here will not help Zimmerman.
What evidence did the DA cover up? Be specific.
But the main issue is that you were mistaken in your premise: Zimmerman has had a rough ride. He's been locked up for about a month. He's a pariah. And he faces very serious legal consequences. It's no walk in the park for him just because he got bail, as you posted so gleefully. So once again you're nothing more than a bigot, a liar and a cretin.
Mormon Dead Jew Baptisms

Philadelphia, PA

#15 Apr 20, 2012
Honest AbeL wrote:
Hey lying dirtbag colon cowboy, bail is not simply the risk of flight. There are many factors involved when setting bail. The homestead act has nothing to do with your physical location. OJ moved to Florida due to the protections afforded by the homestead act. The DA had pictures of Zimmerman with blood flowing from the top of his head and failed to include them in evidence. Sorry idiot but someday you may even grow up
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Hey lying filth, there are more factors in bail than just flight risk. I should have added danger to society.

The bail has nothing to say about the judge's expectation of a verdict, because that would be pre judging a case.

If the facts for the DA were so weak the charges would have been thrown out, thus there would have been no need for bail at all.

So you're a lying cretin.

Funny, OJ was driven into bankruptcy despite whatever you're babbling about. The only financial future Zimmerman has is along the lines of a Joe the Plumber type figure on the right - gun show appearances, Fox News appearances, car shows.

If the DA made an oversight with photos, that is more than matched by Zimmerman's lack of credibility. His disproved claims that he was the one screaming on the audiotape. His lack of injuries he claimed as shown on the police video. His pursuit of the non suspect suspect after 911 told him not to. I can't wait to hear the forensic evidence of where the gun was fired from geographically and in terms of distance from the victim.

But you like lying and violence so Zimmerman is your hero. We know that, you bigot-filth. Scratch a homophobe, find a racist.

Since: Oct 09

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#16 Apr 21, 2012
You are a lying piece of crap. You obviously have no idea what you are talking about. Your stupidity is a waste of my time. Try researching things so you are no longer completely ignorant of the facts. So long loser
Mormon Dead Jew Baptisms wrote:
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Hey lying filth, there are more factors in bail than just flight risk. I should have added danger to society.
The bail has nothing to say about the judge's expectation of a verdict, because that would be pre judging a case.
If the facts for the DA were so weak the charges would have been thrown out, thus there would have been no need for bail at all.
So you're a lying cretin.
Funny, OJ was driven into bankruptcy despite whatever you're babbling about. The only financial future Zimmerman has is along the lines of a Joe the Plumber type figure on the right - gun show appearances, Fox News appearances, car shows.
If the DA made an oversight with photos, that is more than matched by Zimmerman's lack of credibility. His disproved claims that he was the one screaming on the audiotape. His lack of injuries he claimed as shown on the police video. His pursuit of the non suspect suspect after 911 told him not to. I can't wait to hear the forensic evidence of where the gun was fired from geographically and in terms of distance from the victim.
But you like lying and violence so Zimmerman is your hero. We know that, you bigot-filth. Scratch a homophobe, find a racist.

Since: Apr 10

Williston, ND

#17 Apr 21, 2012
Honest AbeL wrote:
You are a lying piece of crap. You obviously have no idea what you are talking about. Your stupidity is a waste of my time. Try researching things so you are no longer completely ignorant of the facts. So long loser
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dishonest ape is at it again with things he pulls out of his ass
FACT1 zimmermen called the cops they told him to NOT follow martin, when he continued to do so he was forgoing any right to self defence he had at that time
FACT2 florida has the stand your ground law which does NOT apply to zimmermen as HE was the one doing the following so even if martin attacked zimmermen martin NOT zimmermen is the one protected by stand your ground (ape read the law you will see im right your wrong)
FACT3 when the cops showed up zimmermen had ZERO injurys
FACT4 Zimmermen had the gun, martin had skittles and ice tea, unless he had the same IQ as you ape he would not attack zimmermen
FACT5 Zimmermen shot martin AFTER the cops told him NOT to follow martin, when he continued following martin after being told not to he became the attacker by florida's stand your ground law, he had zero right to self defence from martin at that point

Since: Oct 09

Location hidden

#18 Apr 21, 2012
You are of course completely wrong. A $7 an hour 911 switch board operator advised him not to follow Martin and not the cops. This has nothing to do with a self defense claim. The stand your ground law certainly applies to Zimmerman and that is exactly what the controversy is. When the cops showed up Zimmerman was bleeding from two cuts in his head. Martin was not the angel they try to make him out to be. He was in that neighborhood because he had been suspended from high school so his father was watching him. Witnesses say that Martin attacked Zimmerman. You are simply a fountain of misinformation and lies
JessicaDawn wrote:
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dishonest ape is at it again with things he pulls out of his ass
FACT1 zimmermen called the cops they told him to NOT follow martin, when he continued to do so he was forgoing any right to self defence he had at that time
FACT2 florida has the stand your ground law which does NOT apply to zimmermen as HE was the one doing the following so even if martin attacked zimmermen martin NOT zimmermen is the one protected by stand your ground (ape read the law you will see im right your wrong)
FACT3 when the cops showed up zimmermen had ZERO injurys
FACT4 Zimmermen had the gun, martin had skittles and ice tea, unless he had the same IQ as you ape he would not attack zimmermen
FACT5 Zimmermen shot martin AFTER the cops told him NOT to follow martin, when he continued following martin after being told not to he became the attacker by florida's stand your ground law, he had zero right to self defence from martin at that point
Mitt s Polygamous Gramps

Philadelphia, PA

#19 Apr 22, 2012
Honest AbeL wrote:
You are of course completely wrong. A $7 an hour 911 switch board operator advised him not to follow Martin and not the cops. This has nothing to do with a self defense claim.
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No, you're lying and ignorant again.

You state things as fact which actually are going to be determined.

The Stand Your Ground claim must be proven, even though it's overbroad legislation, causing all kinds of problems. Otherwise Zimmerman would have had the prosecution's case thrown out at the arraignment.

A self defense claim is central. If that cannot be proven by Zimmerman then he can be sued civilly.

FL's Homestead law means Zimmerman could keep his residence if he were sued civilly into bankruptcy. He can still be sued civilly, though.

Of course he probably doesn't have much of a residence since he's having trouble coming up with the 15k bond to get out on bail....

snicker

Since: Mar 11

Location hidden

#20 Apr 22, 2012
fr Honest AbeL:

>We have a right to carry guns. It wasn't his neighborhood he was visiting his noncustodial father after being suspended from school. Sure Trayvon had as much reason to fear Zimmerman but he didn't have the right to assault him. Neighborhood watch people often follow unrecognizable people that is where they get the watch part from<

You are totally clueless, you do know that, right? Your bff cop wannabe was directly ordered by the police to NOT follow Mr. Martin, but he wantonly disobeyed and followed his victim. Now he has to pay for MURDER, which is what he did.

Mommy shouldn't be letting you play with the computer. Have her put in a Teletubbies video for you.

“ TRUTH : NOT EXPEDIENCE”

Since: Nov 07

town near Jax, Fl

#21 Apr 23, 2012
Honest AbeL wrote:
We have a right to carry guns. It wasn't his neighborhood he was visiting his noncustodial father after being suspended from school. Sure Trayvon had as much reason to fear Zimmerman but he didn't have the right to assault him. Neighborhood watch people often follow unrecognizable people that is where they get the watch part from
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Since when does 'watch' mean 'pursue'???

“ TRUTH : NOT EXPEDIENCE”

Since: Nov 07

town near Jax, Fl

#22 Apr 23, 2012
Honest AbeL wrote:
You are of course completely wrong. A $7 an hour 911 switch board operator advised him not to follow Martin and not the cops. This has nothing to do with a self defense claim. The stand your ground law certainly applies to Zimmerman and that is exactly what the controversy is. When the cops showed up Zimmerman was bleeding from two cuts in his head. Martin was not the angel they try to make him out to be. He was in that neighborhood because he had been suspended from high school so his father was watching him. Witnesses say that Martin attacked Zimmerman. You are simply a fountain of misinformation and lies
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Everything you're saying is coming from the point of view of a gun rights activist. Therefore, little if any of it is true, and on the truth meter I'd give you one out of a possible ten.

Since: Apr 10

Williston, ND

#23 Apr 23, 2012
Catholic created gay wrote:
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Everything you're saying is coming from the point of view of a gun rights activist. Therefore, little if any of it is true, and on the truth meter I'd give you one out of a possible ten.
Actually what he is saying comes from the point of view of an idiot, who has been proven wrong on every "fact" he pulls out of his arse and types here. I am a gun rights activist, I own several guns and am going to get my CCW, however carrying a gun does NOT give one the right to follow someone because they look like they may be up to something. Any firearms insturctor will tell you, when you fire that gun at someone even if in self defence you will have a team of lawyers comming right back at you, and they are not your lawyers.
Unlike dishonest ape here I can actualy read law and I know the stand your ground law which this case falls under, martin NOT zimmermen was protected by stand your ground law, which says if someone is following you, and you feel threatened by said person, you may go on the offencive.
Fact zimmermen was following martin with a gun
Fact, Martin was on the phone to his GF at the time and giving her a play by play of what was happening
Fact zimmermen was told by police dispatchers NOT to follow anyone, he continued
Fact, By following martin, zimmermen was making martin feel threatened which means martin NOT zimmermen was protected by the stand your ground law.
All dishonest ape needs to do is go to school for another 25 or 30 years or untill he learns to words.

“ TRUTH : NOT EXPEDIENCE”

Since: Nov 07

town near Jax, Fl

#24 Apr 24, 2012
JessicaDawn wrote:
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Actually what he is saying comes from the point of view of an idiot, who has been proven wrong on every "fact" he pulls out of his arse and types here. I am a gun rights activist, I own several guns and am going to get my CCW, however carrying a gun does NOT give one the right to follow someone because they look like they may be up to something. Any firearms insturctor will tell you, when you fire that gun at someone even if in self defence you will have a team of lawyers comming right back at you, and they are not your lawyers.
Unlike dishonest ape here I can actualy read law and I know the stand your ground law which this case falls under, martin NOT zimmermen was protected by stand your ground law, which says if someone is following you, and you feel threatened by said person, you may go on the offencive.
Fact zimmermen was following martin with a gun
Fact, Martin was on the phone to his GF at the time and giving her a play by play of what was happening
Fact zimmermen was told by police dispatchers NOT to follow anyone, he continued
Fact, By following martin, zimmermen was making martin feel threatened which means martin NOT zimmermen was protected by the stand your ground law.
All dishonest ape needs to do is go to school for another 25 or 30 years or untill he learns to words.
What you say is probably true. As for everyone owning a gun, we could debate forever whether that is good or bad.

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