Open-wheel win to villian George

Open-wheel win to villian George

There are 54 comments on the Long Beach Press-Telegram story from Feb 24, 2008, titled Open-wheel win to villian George. In it, Long Beach Press-Telegram reports that:

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mattfeth

Bethlehem, PA

#42 Feb 25, 2008
The article is pretty close to being spot on (there are a few things, especially the Danica Patrick win fact that everyone has pointed out already).

Anyway, while I have been a big Champ Car fan since the split, I have also followed the IRL as well. I can't say I am a huge fan, but I have watched and followed some of the ex-Champ Car/CART drivers.

It does bother me that the "villian" in this case did win. The "unification" is not a merger and it is more of a capitulation or "take-over" and I am disappointed that they had to thrash together for 2008 when they should have agreed in principle and waited until 2009 to come out strong as a single CART-like series.

I won't even mention how they should have cheryy picked the best personnel from both series and not let almost everyone go at Champ Car. Both sereis have some strong personnel and I am not confident that the current IRL personnel are going to be able to do this regrdless if a bunch of Chmap Car teams migrate over.

IndyCar needs to rival F1 (and now NASCAR) and they should have put more thought into this and spent the 2008 season co-promting and having a big build up towards a "new" debut in 2009.

Here's hoping that 2009 really surprises me, becasue I am not looking forward to 2008 at all from either side.
JeffyT

Toronto, Canada

#43 Feb 25, 2008
I will be watching F1. The series as it looks does not intrest me for many reasons. And having to watch the smug George strut around is unbearable.
Gboehm

San Francisco, CA

#44 Feb 25, 2008
Danica Never won a race in Atlantics...

Since: Aug 07

Worthville, KY

#45 Feb 25, 2008
Don Jones wrote:
<quoted text>The more Danica takes off the more people watch we should embrace her, I would but that's a different story.
I don't care what she does, playboy next go for it. She's obviously very pretty and if it works it works. I'm not against her I just think she's not as good as people say.

Since: Aug 07

Worthville, KY

#46 Feb 25, 2008
Don Jones wrote:
<quoted text>You, gone switch to another series. Oh you're a Tracy fan I see what's wrong with you now.
Heads up all you have to do is skim their posts and it's the same over and over. He's a disgruntled fan with a proxy server or tunnel if you will. I no longer read it all. It's a maniac energy person like Britney. Just don't read it, it's all the same over and over.

Since: Aug 07

Worthville, KY

#47 Feb 25, 2008
Don Jones wrote:
<quoted text>They need anti depressents every last one of them. Crack ass Champ fans!
If you cuss they'll block you. Be nice to them they need to move on but being mean wont help that's what they do.
Iowa Speedway

Davenport, IA

#48 Feb 25, 2008
Danica is now considered an Atlantics winner? Oh well, the winner of the war gets to re-write history too.
f_rowlan

Los Angeles, CA

#49 Feb 25, 2008
Good article and quite true. Just a small correction to this: "former Atlantic winner Danica Patrick." Patrick has never won a professional series race in her life.
Brad Dill

Tampa, FL

#51 Feb 26, 2008
Hey Bob

Why don't you get over the non-sense? I mean really, you sound like an "I hate Tony George" poster on an internet Champ Car forum. The Split in Open Wheel racing goes back to 1979 when CART first fought a war with IMS and USAC. The second major battle occurred in 1996 when the IRL was formed and it should have all ended four years ago when CART went bankrupt.

There are many parties involved with creating the split and keeping it going. You have decided (for your own personal reasons) to vilify Tony George and forget everybody else.

I have read comments from: staunch Champ Car/CART team owner Paul Newman, staunch CART supporter/driver Mario Andretti, staunch Champ Car driver/co-owner Jimmy Vasser and even Champ Car series owner Kevin Kalkhoven all praising George for a more than generous offer to unify open wheel racing. According to many reports, Champ Car really only had two options 1. Deal with George and a generous offer or 2. File bankruptcy. So why with the majority of open-wheeled fans happy to see a union, yet fully realizing there is a lot of work to be done to build the sport back up, why do you decide to try to rip it down again.

Long Beach will be on the schedule for 2008 and it appears TG and KK are doing all they can to ensure at least a 17 car field with the Champ Car drivers that would have been there if a merger had not taken place. Long Beach will not conflict with another race next year and we will see all the drivers race against each other.

You fault Tony George for ripping the sport apart, yet now that there is positive news, you yourself are the one trying to rip what little good news we have down.

Since: Aug 07

Worthville, KY

#52 Feb 26, 2008
Brad Dill wrote:
Hey Bob
Why don't you get over the non-sense? I mean really, you sound like an "I hate Tony George" poster on an internet Champ Car forum. The Split in Open Wheel racing goes back to 1979 when CART first fought a war with IMS and USAC. The second major battle occurred in 1996 when the IRL was formed and it should have all ended four years ago when CART went bankrupt.
There are many parties involved with creating the split and keeping it going. You have decided (for your own personal reasons) to vilify Tony George and forget everybody else.
I have read comments from: staunch Champ Car/CART team owner Paul Newman, staunch CART supporter/driver Mario Andretti, staunch Champ Car driver/co-owner Jimmy Vasser and even Champ Car series owner Kevin Kalkhoven all praising George for a more than generous offer to unify open wheel racing. According to many reports, Champ Car really only had two options 1. Deal with George and a generous offer or 2. File bankruptcy. So why with the majority of open-wheeled fans happy to see a union, yet fully realizing there is a lot of work to be done to build the sport back up, why do you decide to try to rip it down again.
Long Beach will be on the schedule for 2008 and it appears TG and KK are doing all they can to ensure at least a 17 car field with the Champ Car drivers that would have been there if a merger had not taken place. Long Beach will not conflict with another race next year and we will see all the drivers race against each other.
You fault Tony George for ripping the sport apart, yet now that there is positive news, you yourself are the one trying to rip what little good news we have down.
Nice post I'm not sure people like this Bob or half the people that bash the new developments even care about open wheel at all! How could they with the bitter and redundant comments. If they don't stick around I wont be sad for one minute, if they're true fans then they would be happy.
LBfamily

Long Beach, CA

#53 Feb 26, 2008
Brad BoloChampCar wrote:
Tony George destryed OWR out of ego and greed. I have attended every LBGP since 1975. This will be my final LBGP if the irl or Tont George is involved. I would skip this year, but the LBGP will not give refiunds. This year's race will be a joke, after such a great attendance last year. Only 6-10 current CC drivers at most will be going to the irl. Only those drivers will be at LB. 6-10 cars is not a premier event for LB. It is a joke, just like the irl. It is sad that one man has ruined OWR in America, and soon will destroy the LBGP.
Bye. I imagine you are giving up good seats, hopefully I can grab them (year after year, I just can't seem to break into the top row of Grandstand 6).

Joking of course, I hate to see a fan bail-out on America's oldest and best form of racing. Look, American Open Wheel has always been a work in progress. A lot of huge changes have taken place over the years, that is what makes it interesting for this gearhead. I will welcome the unified series to my city for 2009 and I hope for the best (we can't go much lower).... and we have American Le Mans to fall back on, right?
LBfamily

Long Beach, CA

#54 Feb 26, 2008
carlitos wrote:
Why can't we get a NASCAR date and forego these boring little rollerskates?
I think the crowd would start to return after years of dwindling attendance and excitement.
Dwindling Attendance? If you are referring to Long Beach then you need to do your homework.
LBfamily

Long Beach, CA

#55 Feb 26, 2008
CrewChief wrote:
Does your hack newspaper have a spell check ? If so run your headline. That should be enough for you to lose all credibility but the fiction you miss quote as fact should have you sued for libel. "Fans" like you are what have prevented and will continue to prevent open wheel racing from growing now and in the future. Maybe Long Beach should pay the millions to get F1 back if everyone there feels like you. Your arrogance would deserve that of Bernie and his traveling circus, of course your knowledge probably doesn't go back far enough to know Long Beach use to be an F1 race.
All I can say is this Long Beach resident and life-long open wheel fan checks the INDY STAR sports section every day. I can't count on the locals for open-wheel info...... confusing considering the LBGP is the biggest sporting event in this town.
ICU2

United States

#56 Feb 27, 2008
(An American hasn't won the CART or Champ Car title since 1996)

B.F.D.!! All those "one DNA " folks have to do is get out of their trailor once in a while & stop going to the local 7-11 for the daily slurpee & they will see that there is more to life than deciding on which cousin or sister to bed down with !!!

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