CCWS faces final lap

CCWS faces final lap

There are 37 comments on the The Indianapolis Star story from Feb 20, 2008, titled CCWS faces final lap. In it, The Indianapolis Star reports that:

The pending absorption of the Champ Car World Series into the Indy Racing League would bring an ignominious end to an organization that traces its racing history to 1909.

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Juan po blow

Indianapolis, IN

#21 Feb 20, 2008
Never thought I'd say it but I sure miss Miller. He po'ed a lot of people. was a jerk about half the time. But at least you can count on one thing. He was knowledgeable about the sport and he had the passion to be what he was and is. No matter what he was always "out there". Indy got the national coverage with him. Like it or not what we have to today is a watered down bunch of cut and paste off the AP wire hacks. I feel real sorry for Curt Cavin. he tries to cover racing for Indy but the Scar would rather send and spend Kravitz to the Super Bowl for a week than actually invest in a category that has value to the city and it's citizens.
Hunter _S_Thompson

United States

#22 Feb 20, 2008
"There can't be five people on the planet that don't want it to happen," he said.
Outside of Indianapolis, are there five people who care?
rollie

Lawrence, KS

#23 Feb 20, 2008
hey hunter, i bring 10 from kansas that care ebery year to kms and ims, so your theory is already wrong, jack ass.
Juan

United States

#24 Feb 20, 2008
Hell Chip, There are more than five people on Trackforum.com who don't want merger to happen !
KJKolar

AOL

#25 Feb 20, 2008
Juan Pablo can go stick it where the sun don't shine. Then do a double header with Franchitti.
rollie

Lawrence, KS

#26 Feb 20, 2008
KJKolar wrote:
Juan Pablo can go stick it where the sun don't shine. Then do a double header with Franchitti.
right on, and while your at it take paul tracy with them to the bumper car ride.

Ski

“Is It Friday Yet?????”

Since: May 07

Smalltown New York

#27 Feb 20, 2008
Juan wrote:
Hell Chip, There are more than five people on Trackforum.com who don't want merger to happen !
Those must be the same people who bought all that Pan AM stock hoping it would make a comeback.
Chris

United States

#28 Feb 20, 2008
THERE IS A PRESS CONFERENCE ON FRIDAY, FEBRUARY 22, 2008 11:00AM EST.

“indy 500 the place to be”

Since: Feb 08

lawrence kansas

#29 Feb 20, 2008
Chris wrote:
THERE IS A PRESS CONFERENCE ON FRIDAY, FEBRUARY 22, 2008 11:00AM EST.
where have you seen or heard this? source? OR ARE YOU JUST TALKING SMACK?
billyb

Benton Harbor, MI

#30 Feb 20, 2008
If Tony George uses his brain, he will move the starting time back to the right time, the open wheel drivers that went to NASCRAP would most likly come and run, and still have time to run the 600. Takes common sense !
Marios wet dream

Elmhurst, IL

#32 Feb 20, 2008
NASCAR can kiss my posterior.

If stock car drivers want to "run" the Indy 500, they can lobby the Frances to move that god-forsaken, stab-me-in-the-heart-with-the- big-knife-it's-so-boring "World" 600 back to the Saturday night before Indianapolis. Then they can "run" Indy all they want...if they make the field.
billyb wrote:
If Tony George uses his brain, he will move the starting time back to the right time, the open wheel drivers that went to NASCRAP would most likly come and run, and still have time to run the 600. Takes common sense !
Marios wet dream

Elmhurst, IL

#33 Feb 20, 2008
Here are my keys...park my Town Car right over there under the Pagoda...and park it straight this time! I'm tired of walking out there and having to go through all such contorted maneuvers to step into my car.

Peasant.
Gomer Condre wrote:
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AHHH HA HA HA!!!!! FTG use his brain?!?! What a ridiculous premise!
Funny to watch the paranoid xenophobia out of a good segment of the people posting in this thread. Ya'd think JPM was some kind of evil boogeyman. It's ok to cry, Hulmanista shillbags. Them 'murrican dirt trackers FTG dun brought round just couldn't keep up. Ha.
The reason so many earl fans have such a wildly psychotic inferiority complex is because the 'league' is inferior to everything, everywhere. It is 1000% crap. Garbage. A fecal fountain masquerading as motorsport.
Here's hoping for a bloodbath at Homestead! HA HA HA HA HA!!!! The 'league' sucks!! FTG.
Chipster is wildly out of touch as well. So is Ballard. You morons claiming the 'league' has any history prior to 1996 are delusional, though watch how fast FTG incorporates all of CART and previous eras once he gets his filthy terrorist hands on the remnants of CC. Hypocrites much? Go kill yourselves. Or just go to an earl event and catch a flying scheissewagon.
Steve99

Riga, Latvia

#34 Feb 21, 2008
About 95% ChampCar races from 1909 to 1979 were on ovals. CCWS had 0% ovals.
Sweet

Indianapolis, IN

#35 Feb 21, 2008
Steve99 wrote:
About 95% ChampCar races from 1909 to 1979 were on ovals. CCWS had 0% ovals.
makes about as much since as saying how many was on dirt vs. pavement,how many where rear engine vs. front. How many where turbo vs. normally aspirated. probably still watching a black and white tv eh.
John Cole

Honolulu, HI

#36 Feb 21, 2008
Can the average fan of ChampCar name more than three current drivers in their serries for 2008? This unification sounds great and all but not for this year. It's too late. 2009 would be the right way to do it. That way ChampCar teams can make an easy transition to the IRL by testing and getting familar with the new equipment for 2009. The IRL and ChampCar should keep their seperate race dates for 2008. It will be like a farewell tour for the ChampCar serries this season.
Frank Otte

Washington, DC

#37 Feb 22, 2008
champcar can trace its history, and quite loosely/generously at that, to 1979. The correct lineage of Indy Racing from 1909 after 1995 is the INDY Racing League, which is centered around the INDIANAPOLIS MOTOR SPEEDWAY. How can any one columnist be this completely ignorant? Claiming champcar is anything more than the four year old proceeds of an asset sale is insane. Ballard needs history lessons badly.
Phil Ward

Kansas City, MO

#38 Feb 23, 2008
Just my opinion here.. But the establishment of CART in the '70s, was the beginning of the end. Putting the sanctioning and rules-making in the hands of a few Monied Owners, made it all but Impossible for the "little-guy to compete anymore, and drove them out.
I believe that Tony had the right idea with the IRL, but by then it was too late, in that the established teams had become entrenched in doing business a certain way. There is still no "Path to Indy" for the thousands of Saturday-Night Racers out there, that American Fans know and love. The average American race fan, doesnt seem willing to spend big money to support drivers they never heard of, cant meet,, or see now and then, at local tracks!
Unfortunately, Nascar seems to be headed in the same direction.
Racing has always been money-driven to some degree, but it's become so obscenely expensive and "Corporate-Driven, that the average-joe can no-longer relate, let-alone Participate!

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