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Winnipeg, Canada

#534 Jun 24, 2008
1Sa 18:27
Wherefore David arose and went, he and his men, and SLEW of the Philistines two hundred men; and David brought their FORESKINS, and they gave them in full tale to the king, that he might be the king's son in law. And Saul gave him Michal his daughter to wife.
Worship or Warship

Winnipeg, Canada

#535 Jun 24, 2008
Nothing out of context here...
Out of hand, YES - but not out of context!
Out of their minds, YES - but not out of context.
Out-rageously barbaric and pathetic god to worship and praise and expect prayers to be answered, but NOT out of context!
News for Christians

Winnipeg, Canada

#536 Jun 25, 2008
Believers!
Here's a link to one of the best books you could read to find out that most of Leon's "teachings" are complete rubbish:
http://www.amazon.ca/exec/obidos/ASIN/1411691...
News for Chistians

Winnipeg, Canada

#537 Jun 25, 2008
All along you've been taught that it was "the enemy" who did all the horrid things... over and over again Leon says "The Enemy" or "Satan" or whatever his new found contemporary hip word is...
.
BUT...
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If you'd just read your bibles - it says something altogether different! It's your good ol' loving, compassionate and omniscient imaginary friend who does it:
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Isa 45:7
I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace,
and CREATE EVIL:
I the LORD DO ALL THESE [THINGS].
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Anything out of context here?
Funny, I never heard Leon spout this detestable little tidbit of "good news" scripture.
Former Sucker

Winnipeg, Canada

#538 Jun 27, 2008
Hey, THIS IS STILL VERY BORING: Why don't you just admit that there is a lot of stuff that is not taught at Springs, and that a lot of the stuff that is taught is not biblically based? You can be honest about it. What do you have to lose?
News For Christians

Winnipeg, Canada

#539 Jul 4, 2008
HEY Christians! Don't forget to read the GOOD NEWS on the other blog at this forum:
http://www.topix.com/forum/ca/calgary-ab/T1OS...
COMIC BOOK GUY

Canada

#540 Jul 5, 2008
LEON AND SALLY FONTAINE ARE TWO BIG FRAUDS!!!!SPRINGS IS A CULT!!
Former Sucker

Winnipeg, Canada

#541 Jul 6, 2008
COMIC BOOK GUY wrote:
LEON AND SALLY FONTAINE ARE TWO BIG FRAUDS!!!!SPRINGS IS A CULT!!
Were you a former sucker as well? Share your "testimony" with us bro!
News for Christians

Winnipeg, Canada

#542 Jul 7, 2008
Luk 14:26
If any [man] come to me, and HATE not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.
Worship or Warship

Winnipeg, Canada

#543 Jul 7, 2008
I... I'm so confused!
I always thought we were supposed to love our neighbors and honor our mothers and fathers, but jesus says we gotta HATE them! They never read these passages of "good news" out to me in church - but there they are AS BIG AS LIFE, coming right outta the "prince of peace's" mouth!
HATE!
So be it - jesus said it, so let's all get together and follow the "prince of peace's" footsteps and start HATING their fathers, and mothers, and wives, and children, and brethren, and sisters, and our own lives!
Put it this way: I'd sure hate my own life if I believed in this nonsense!
Worship or Warship

Winnipeg, Canada

#544 Jul 7, 2008
.. can't wait to see the apologetics for THIS one...
c'mon christians - start making excuses for your god... let's see, what weak arguments can we expect?
1.) it's taken "out of context"...
2.) you can't take everything "literally"...
3.) must have been a scribal error...
4.) translated wrong....
.
Don't forget - it's the "inerrant word of god"...
Start HATING so you can follow your lord.
It must be true! George Bush is a born again christian, and he is a liar and war monger and has no respect whatsoever for his countrymen - he is right in sync with the lord! Full of HATE!
Worship or Warship

Winnipeg, Canada

#545 Jul 7, 2008
we call it "cherry picking" the scriptures...
if it sounds ok, you do it - if it doesn't, you don't... which makes most of you hypocrites, that is, unless you're doing your fair share of hating everybody, including yourself - and don't forget: god orders you to STONE YOUR CHILDREN TO DEATH if they talk back to you... everybody ok with that one?
Worship or Warship

Winnipeg, Canada

#546 Jul 9, 2008
oh, SURPRISE!
It's all of a sudden strangely quiet again on this Topix page...
Jennifer

Winnipeg, Canada

#547 Jul 10, 2008
Worship or Warship - I must say, you are one of the only ones around here making any sense at all - and might I add to your last few posts...
...how many times do we have to hear the old cliche of "don't paint all christians with the same brush - we're not ALL that way..."????
Maybe not ALL of you are that way, but when many EVERY day prove that they ARE "that way" (read the previous large quantity of news reports on this topix blog)... well, how many excuses do you have to continue to make??? You make excuses for "god" and you make excuses for christians...
Of what use is all the piousness and fuss?!
2,000 years of millions of "learned" people studying, "learning", preaching, believing obviously DOESN'T work that well at all...
Devils Advocate

Winnipeg, Canada

#548 Jul 11, 2008
So, if someone says they are "so hungry they could eat a horse", we MUST take that literally?
Or, if someone gets mad at someone and says they are "going to kill him/her", we CAN NOT take that out of context and MUST take that literally as well?
Here's one for you: secular liberals/evolutionists like to "have their cake and eat it too".
Jennifer

Winnipeg, Canada

#549 Jul 11, 2008
Ah - now we arrive at the cherry picker's infamous parting of the ways:
Funny how SOME of the parts of the bible, christians demand that it be taken literally - say, for example, the homophobic ones who love to spout their disgust with the ol' "a man should not sleep with another man - it is an abomination" thing... many christians take that so literally that they hold up signs saying "god hates fags" and "fags should die" etc.
see example: http://riverdaughter.files.wordpress.com/2008...
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However, when other things get a little too close to home for other christians, they rear up, take their heads out of the sand and say that it's ridiculous to take "it literally"...
Make up your minds, cherry-pickers! I know that's hard to do being a christian, with soooo many contradictions and irrational instructions from the great dictator in your sky...
One minute jesus is saying "put down the sword, as he who lives by the sword shall die by the sword", and the next , he says "if you don't have a sword, go out and buy one"...
The contradictions could definitely drive you out of your mind... but that seems to be the ultimate goal and happenstance that occurs when you believe in such ancient nonsense. Shall we also get out medical books from 2,000 years ago and apply the "knowledge" in them instead of what we know now?
We've come a long way since the writers of the bible, who knew nothing of science, the solar system, archaology, history, etc. thought they had god speaking to them! If god had of been speaking and dictating (read: "inspiring") them to such wisdom and "truth", why didn't he give them a hint or two that the sun did not revolve around the earth, or that GERMS and BACTERIA caused illness and death, NOT "satan"...
BARKING MAD!
Devils Advocate

Winnipeg, Canada

#550 Jul 12, 2008
Still no direct response to my prior entry?

Can anyone not answer the questions?

If someone says they are "so hungry they could eat a horse", MUST we take that literally?

If someone gets mad at someone and says they are "going to kill him/her", can we NOT take that out of context and MUST we take that literally as well?
Worship or Warship

Winnipeg, Canada

#551 Jul 12, 2008
Well, rational and sane people who don't pretend that an imaginary friend inspired primitive people to write a book that on one page says "Thou shalt not kill/murder", and then a few pages later instructs Moses to slaughter everyone except the young virgin women would NOT be in any way enticed to think of taking such nonsense literally... however, when you actually do your homework, open your eyes and look around you - from politicians still willing to claim that the world was created in 6 days just 6,000 years ago to picketing idiots carrying placards stating "fags must die" - you'll see that MUCH of the world still takes the "good" book as literal truth.... all one has to do though, for just one moment is ask: does the sun revolve around the earth? The answer is NO. The bible states quite clearly that it DOES. Then is the bible inerrant? NO. On just one of HUNDREDS of examples, this is proven not to be the case, yet Huckabee, while running for (help us!) President, stated - when asked - that he believed that the world was only 6,000 years old, that evolution was not a factor... this is taking the bible literally. By a prominent figure in the USA. Who has (or would have had) a major influence on millions of gullible people, backing him on his beliefs and decisions made due to them.
This is just one example.
So again - to answer your "question" - NO, sane and rational people DO NOT take things literally. But MILLIONS of bible believers DO!
Devils Advocate

Winnipeg, Canada

#552 Jul 13, 2008
True, and I'm sure there are legions of Huckabee followers who don't believe the bible but do believe Huckabee, just like there are millions of people who believe Obama and every other lying politician. But, then again, there are those who have a healthy dose of skepticism, Christian and non-Christian.

So, is the problem with the Christians or is it with the politicians? I say the latter, and if you get one that is both, the politician inevitably is the driving force of the two because real Christians would have no interest in politics. That too, is a 20th century "innovation".
Worship or Warship

Winnipeg, Canada

#554 Jul 14, 2008
Hmmmm... I see that "somehow" my last post was deleted. Seems that people don't like to read about christians that get coverage in the news... There were at least a dozen articles from this past week alone - but someone didn't like to know that, and I guess decided that NO ONE else should know it either.
Modern day Crusades and Inquisition(read: Censorship)(read: suppression of the truth)
Well, we'll try again; here's just a few of them all at one link:
http://news.google.ca/news...

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