only victoria

Victoria, Canada

#83 Jan 29, 2013
Unlike many of the other major Canadian metro regions where merit has value, Victoria is all about nepotism, corruption connections. The answer to everything work, social, cultural is always, "you are great, exactly what we wanted and hoped for, but oh no not you! We'll keep you in mind and find someone else like you and give it to them. You ok with that?"
only victoria part 2

Victoria, Canada

#84 Jan 31, 2013
There is a second part to "only victoria" that wasn't mentioned. People need to know. It is not only the work, economic, political culture and the resulting policies of almost every organization that is whacked out. The socializing culture of Victoria is equally nuts and makes no common sense. Visiting Victoria you wouldn't know it as mush but living in the city for a while, it will become blatant. The social also operates on "you are perfect, oh no not you, why can't I find anyone?"
where is their money

United States

#85 Feb 1, 2013
The wages are pathetically cheap and the expenses are high. You make less and get squeezed to pay more for all goods and services. The various sales, environmental, carbon taxes and various fees and levies will kill your finances later. Federal income taxes and payments will take another chunk of money from you. That is probably one of the reasons why Victoria people seemed silent, grouchy, unfriendly, uptight, reserved, paranoid? They don't have much to be joyous about, taxed to death, under paid and abused to death, frustrated, gloomy, and bored. They can't earn and save enough to have a good enjoyable life. They have a hard time just surviving, no time or resources to have a fun social life too.
no mo money

United States

#86 Feb 1, 2013
Many people say goods and services are much cheaper in other provinces and cities outside of British Columbia. What ever BC is doing or has done in the past, they are clearly getting it all wrong. Alberta, Saskatchewan and some others are getting it right. Jurisdictions don't export their citizens to other jurisdictions if the social culture and economy at home are in such great condition. Other places don't import people if their culture and economies are bad.
Can B Fun City

Victoria, Canada

#87 Feb 2, 2013
Victoria would be a lot more fulfilling, fun, happy, and content if many of the people are not economically, socially, psychologically, financially frustrated and blocked. People can't be happy, outgoing, sociable, and content if they are not achieving their goals and dreams. Life is good when one has what they want and need and life really sucks when people don't. Victoria is a prison to many people when they are not allowed to live up to their potential. People leave Victoria and BC to other places when home is not good.
seasonalaffectiv edisorder

Sechelt, Canada

#88 Feb 6, 2013
Interesting! I live in a coastal community outside Vancouver, have to take a ferry and it's the same. Vancouver is also just as glum so do not be fooled into thinking there are jobs and prosperity for all. You can't go to concerts, see movies or eat out if every penny goes to rent. I could never find work in Vancouver and now my step daughter lives there and finding it equally hard. Because there is even less work where I live, we've been considering a move to the greater Victoria area so we can live in the country but have access to more work. However, this does not appear to be a viable option. I grew up in Ontario and Saskatchewan. Saskatchewan literally middle of nowhere, was like Siberia, but stuff happened, very community and social minded. So I grew up used to a lack of big entertainment, but was nothing compared to life out here. People in Ontario, even Toronto are way more friendly than out here. The cost of living is appalling, you cannot get ahead, only behind. One can only do crap work for so long if highly educated like many of us are without getting very angry.
If you are wealthy, it's great, you can float around, buy expensive things, and assume everybody else is the same.
It is beautiful, I moved here because I wanted to live by the ocean, in nature frolicking through cedar forests, but could have gone east coast or settled for countryside in other parts of Canada. Do not be fooled by the allure of good weather either. It rains ten months at least of the year. We might have nice breaks in January, and mild, but the damp and endless grey will cause depression in even the jolliest. The slow pace is not the root problem either. Slow is not necessarily bad-consider 'slow living' in Italy...seems awfully exciting doesn't it? Socializing, drinking wine, talking to neighbours, eating good food, enjoying the sun...
It's very cliquey, really it is. Introverted is fine, but not if it's cliquey which causes even hermits to wish they had friends to call on. People tend to hide here, retreat, not reach out and are flakey. You might think you made a friend, but they won't call back or forget you made plans. Move here with friends and family or face much alone time. I met my husband just as I was ready to pack it in and move east or to Europe. I'd still leave if he didn't love it so much.
seasonalaffectiv edisorder

Sechelt, Canada

#89 Feb 6, 2013
no mo money wrote:
Many people say goods and services are much cheaper in other provinces and cities outside of British Columbia. What ever BC is doing or has done in the past, they are clearly getting it all wrong. Alberta, Saskatchewan and some others are getting it right. Jurisdictions don't export their citizens to other jurisdictions if the social culture and economy at home are in such great condition. Other places don't import people if their culture and economies are bad.
True, go to other provinces and see what food costs. My sister complains how much food costs in Ottawa, my mom complains about the price of food in Regina. It's cheap!!! Consider how close BC is to much of the food growing regions! How can moving processed food west of the rockies cost that much more? Real estate across Canada is getting out of hand, but BC is especially damaged in this respect. Entire swaths of the population can barely afford to live, and most are not living their dreams or aspirations. Yes it's beautiful and if you like outdoorsy activities it's great, but you also have to have time to get out there, or money to afford gear. Working for minimum wage at a service industry job when you went to university and had goals and plans, but cannot find work anywhere near that is very depressing.
BC and Victoria crooked

United States

#90 Feb 6, 2013
seasonalaffectivedisorder wrote:
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True, go to other provinces and see what food costs. My sister complains how much food costs in Ottawa, my mom complains about the price of food in Regina. It's cheap!!! Consider how close BC is to much of the food growing regions! How can moving processed food west of the rockies cost that much more? Real estate across Canada is getting out of hand, but BC is especially damaged in this respect. Entire swaths of the population can barely afford to live, and most are not living their dreams or aspirations. Yes it's beautiful and if you like outdoorsy activities it's great, but you also have to have time to get out there, or money to afford gear. Working for minimum wage at a service industry job when you went to university and had goals and plans, but cannot find work anywhere near that is very depressing.
No kidding! It seems like Victoria, Vancouver Island and all of BC is a crooked price fixing racket? The governments and private businesses look for every small excuse to pay workers slave wages while at the same time charge you extortion high prices for all goods and services. The people are not people or staff, just money milking cows. Getting squeezed at both ends means your prospects are fairly limited or limiting. A main reason why BC is bleeding out brains, talent, and workers is because the BC culture in all things, don't know how to treat people well.
Racketeer Guys

Victoria, Canada

#91 Feb 8, 2013
BC and Victoria crooked wrote:
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No kidding! It seems like Victoria, Vancouver Island and all of BC is a crooked price fixing racket? The governments and private businesses look for every small excuse to pay workers slave wages while at the same time charge you extortion high prices for all goods and services. The people are not people or staff, just money milking cows. Getting squeezed at both ends means your prospects are fairly limited or limiting. A main reason why BC is bleeding out brains, talent, and workers is because the BC culture in all things, don't know how to treat people well.
Yes everything is a racket in BC and especially Victoria the capital city. I am actually surprised they still have any brains left as they seem to bleed all the good people out to other places. They don't know how to treat capable people and their competitors in other places do. This is probably a repeat, but good and cheap abusive can't co-exist in the same place and time. It must be a natural law of the universe?
yes Ottawa

Victoria, Canada

#92 Feb 8, 2013
seasonalaffectivedisorder wrote:
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True, go to other provinces and see what food costs. My sister complains how much food costs in Ottawa, my mom complains about the price of food in Regina. It's cheap!!! Consider how close BC is to much of the food growing regions! How can moving processed food west of the rockies cost that much more? Real estate across Canada is getting out of hand, but BC is especially damaged in this respect. Entire swaths of the population can barely afford to live, and most are not living their dreams or aspirations. Yes it's beautiful and if you like outdoorsy activities it's great, but you also have to have time to get out there, or money to afford gear. Working for minimum wage at a service industry job when you went to university and had goals and plans, but cannot find work anywhere near that is very depressing.
I would rather be in Ottawa ON, than Victoria BC. There are more jobs, better jobs in Ottawa and it is a bigger city with more prosperity too. Greater Ottawa is 4x the size of Greater Victoria with probably many more times the common sense and brains. Ottawa is very similar to Victoria if Victoria had its shit together.
Definitely Not

United States

#93 Feb 12, 2013
Victoria is not a nice place to live. The natural environment is nice, but most of the people are not nice. They are culturally uptight, repressive, closed minded, socially restricted to their cliques, and mentally dumb. Common sense is definitely not common in the Victoria region. General life in Victoria is an oxymoron (conflicting illogic) or any other type of moron. The social mental attitude is one of the main reasons why the area economy and social life is messed up. The environment can only be fully enjoyed if one is independently wealthy and powerful, separated from the need to work or bow to others for a living. The low wages, cheap work environment, daily life pressures will grind you, wear you down, and remove most joys in life from you life in Victoria. You will be sorry if you did not do your research homework before moving your life.
you have been warned

Victoria, Canada

#94 Feb 14, 2013
Definitely Not wrote:
Victoria is not a nice place to live. The natural environment is nice, but most of the people are not nice. They are culturally uptight, repressive, closed minded, socially restricted to their cliques, and mentally dumb. Common sense is definitely not common in the Victoria region. General life in Victoria is an oxymoron (conflicting illogic) or any other type of moron. The social mental attitude is one of the main reasons why the area economy and social life is messed up. The environment can only be fully enjoyed if one is independently wealthy and powerful, separated from the need to work or bow to others for a living. The low wages, cheap work environment, daily life pressures will grind you, wear you down, and remove most joys in life from you life in Victoria. You will be sorry if you did not do your research homework before moving your life.
I personally know many people who are chronically unemployed or under employed just because the live in Greater Victoria. The region is not prosperous because it has almost no heavy industries with the higher pay as a foundation. This leads to everything else that follows been even more cheap and limited. In most other places, these people would probably have accidentally hit a good paying job, or any other job by now. You almost never get a job even if you are qualified. You keep getting sent back to school for endless retraining and always no work.
more so in victoria

United States

#95 Feb 14, 2013
Corruption and nepotism happens everywhere, but it seems to be more concentrated in Victoria due to the cliquey, closed, hostile culture. In other places the cultural diluted mix thins out all the negatives with positives. Victoria is just a bubbling toxic pool of the negatives without much dilution. It doesn't matter how educated, talented, experienced you are. It is all about who and what you know in Victoria that gets you your props. You can be the dumbest, crookedest, incompetent boob and will still rise high and far because of what and who you know. Meanwhile, many talented and enthusiastic people get pushed aside and kept down. They don't tell you this behind the scenes truth in their recruitment propaganda.
Hail the Genius

Victoria, Canada

#96 Feb 15, 2013
The internet is a good research tool. Before the internet, people would move to a place and find out it is not all that it is made out to be. It is too late to find out the truth. Most people hate wasting time, money, talent, enthusiasm, and other resources on any lost causes. Skills, education, experience, merit doesn't matter like it does in other normal Canadian regions. Life in Victoria needs to be independently rich, work free, connected or you will be left high and dry with nothing. Many organizations large to small do "fake job hiring" to test how many job applicants they get per job posting, or to scare their unionized work force into accepting lower labour contracts by showing how many people are available to replace them. The resumes and applications sit somewhere collecting dust and unread for months, years, maybe a decade?
Situational

United States

#97 Feb 16, 2013
Victoria is a great place to live if certain conditions and situations are met. You would love it in Victoria if you are too rich to have to work for a living and money just flows over you like by magic. You can use the excess cash as toilet paper to wipe your rear. The bleak reality for most of the Victoria people is a lot less lavish and frivolous. Victoria would be great for you if the scenery and environment can pay all your expenses and give you free money to live the lifestyle you want. You are most likely to get your job applications ignored repeatedly by all sorts of employers of varying size, as their existing lazy and incompetent staff procrastinate. The hiring and start date deadlines will pass as nobody seems to care about inefficiency and lost time and money. The stacks of resumes will grow moldy somewhere as the organizations will continually job advertise for jobs they seem to have no intentions of filling. They treat it like it was a joke game to take up extra free time.
Dumpy Victoria

Victoria, Canada

#98 Feb 23, 2013
Situational wrote:
Victoria is a great place to live if certain conditions and situations are met. You would love it in Victoria if you are too rich to have to work for a living and money just flows over you like by magic. You can use the excess cash as toilet paper to wipe your rear. The bleak reality for most of the Victoria people is a lot less lavish and frivolous. Victoria would be great for you if the scenery and environment can pay all your expenses and give you free money to live the lifestyle you want. You are most likely to get your job applications ignored repeatedly by all sorts of employers of varying size, as their existing lazy and incompetent staff procrastinate. The hiring and start date deadlines will pass as nobody seems to care about inefficiency and lost time and money. The stacks of resumes will grow moldy somewhere as the organizations will continually job advertise for jobs they seem to have no intentions of filling. They treat it like it was a joke game to take up extra free time.
The redundant, stupid, frustrating way every decision is made or not made would stun most normal people in the other Canadian cities, but being descriminating, not too smart and slow is acceptable general Greater Victoria operating standards.
so much and so little

Victoria, Canada

#99 Feb 24, 2013
Oh definitely Victoria is not a good place to live. You can visit it as many times as you like and then go back home. However, never ever make it your permanent home if you have a choice. Trading in your goals and objective dreams for a few moments of beautiful environment isn't worth it. The entire regional system is totally lacking in every way. Read all the people's comments. They are not BSing you. It is the real experience.
Unconcious

Victoria, Canada

#100 Feb 26, 2013
I think people must be unconconcious in various ways before Victoria becones a good place to life. The economics and finances are so far below the high class environment. The people are not happy about the saggy finances, chronically poor job market, abundant and excessive fees, taxes. The people have been disgrunteled about the pervasive entrenched culture of limited and cheap for a long time. It seems to me that the contentment levels are always low, unlike the more prosperous major Canadian cities. A friend thinks the geographical energy grid lines maybe having a debilitating effect on the people of Greater Victoria, Vancouver Island and making them depressed, slow, and dopey. The other possibility is the dumb dumb multi generational inbreeding genetics hypothesis.
do not be clueless

Victoria, Canada

#101 Mar 1, 2013
The real estate prices are falling because the soggy labour market, poor generalized pay levels, lack of opportunities and moeny savings, etc, are squeezing the economy downward. Unless you are too rich to work in Victoria, you will be bored, frustrated, and unhappy. Even if you are too rich to work, the boredom, stiffled culture, and lowered intelligence would make you nuts too.
So Much Frustrations

Victoria, Canada

#102 Mar 2, 2013
Many of my friends and I live in Victoria and travelled to other places. Some of them are big cities. Victoria people are uptight, cliquey, cold, and paranoid. That is one reason why everything else like the economy, job market, ability to save money, buy a house or anything else is so limited, limiting. Not making much money and having various governments, corporations, NGOs gouge you for more payments really constrict you even more. Try living a life and/or raising a family in a city culture that is designed to keep you poor and discontented is bad for your mental and physical health. There is a reason why people can't find dates, jobs, or buy a house in Victoria. Some can't even rent a place to live for the same related reasons.

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