Is Victoria really a nice place to live?
limited

United States

#233 May 26, 2013
Some of my Victoria friends tell me most Victoria people are afraid to quit their jobs mo matter how much they hate the working conditions and environment because they are never going to get another job any time soon. Victoria employment and making money is kind of poor. Most of the people go through life almost like indentured slaves. My friends were quite explicit in their opinions with lots of profane words. At least that rich landlord kid and his friends don't have to life Victorian life on the knees and groveling before dick head Victorian bosses unless it is voluntary.

Since: Apr 13

Victoria, Canada

#234 May 26, 2013
limited wrote:
Some of my Victoria friends tell me most Victoria people are afraid to quit their jobs mo matter how much they hate the working conditions and environment because they are never going to get another job any time soon. Victoria employment and making money is kind of poor. Most of the people go through life almost like indentured slaves. My friends were quite explicit in their opinions with lots of profane words. At least that rich landlord kid and his friends don't have to life Victorian life on the knees and groveling before dick head Victorian bosses unless it is voluntary.
That is certainly not unique to Victoria. Working people anywhere are reluctant to quite a job unless they have something else lined up. Everybody has bills to pay.
still whining i see

Bauline, Canada

#235 May 26, 2013
Ive worked in Victoria, as well as almost every other large city across Canada. People are people everywhere, there's no difference, don't think your problems with your employer are exclusive to Victoria and I'd also say that a lot of people I've worked with who complained the most about their employer were often difficult people themselves. Boss-worker relationship is like any relationship, they both rely upon eachother to some extent but there's no dependency there ultimately, so it's give and take, working with one another to make the most of things, like a marriage. I've had a few temperamental bosses, generally those who were small business owners who over-worked themselves and had anger management problems, then I've had great employers who look at their role as boss in an almost paternal way feeling a responsibility to some extent to help uplift those less fortunate working beneath them. Then there's neutral employers who really just care that you clock in, do your work and don't cause problems and treat you like a number, these are actually my favourite employers, I like things nice and impersonal at work. If you want high wages move to Alberta, it's not rocket science really, if even Newfies can figure it out I'm sure a Victorian youth like yourself can as well. I'm sure you won't enjoy fort mcmurray weather in the middle of january but if money is your sole preoccupation in life then this should not be any reason not to go. Like I said above though, and it's true, a lot of people who have problems with their boss (or their city for that matter) are generally the problem themselves. Learn to adapt to your environment, whether that be the location you live in or the bosses you wind up with. Once you learn to be adaptable you can survive anywhere and nowhere will be torture and no one will cause you grief. I've dealt with some of the most difficult personalities both in professional and personal settings and I've found that even the worst person can be got around and won over to your cause. Rather than complain about your bosses sucking, make the effort to understand your boss, figure out how he ticks, find ways to win him over to wanting to help you and advance you. Nor does this mean becoming a squirming kiss-ass, because that's not genuine and no one will respect that and worse of all you yourself won't respect yourself. Learn to appreciate people and understand them, in a genuine way, learn to work together with people as a team working for the common cause, even if that common cause be increased sales at mcdonalds. Don't think yourself above anything, be humble, apply yourself fully even if your job happens to be nothing more than washing dishes. I think your parents have done you a real disservice in sheltering you from life. It's no wonder you are so dissatisfied with your life even with the largesse of your mothers wealth supporting you. It's because you arent doing anything for yourself, you arent taking part in life or the world, you arent risking yourself, you've been warped into this idea of a special worth that entitles you to high pay and people treating you like a prince, because this is what your parents taught you with their indulgent upbringing. Go run away from it all is my advice. Even if you have to be one of those obnoxious street kids with a credit card in their back pocket, do that even, at least it's some experience in life. Go wander, explore the world, figure yourself out because right now I can tell you you will never be happy the way you're going and it's because you are a vegetable right now, a vegetable life who has all the same human urges, the need to invent, to challenge, but you arent allowing these facets of your personality to come out, you are staying repressed and infantalized while in your mothers garden patch, planted, rooted in the soil of her nurturing care, despite your adult growth. what happens to a mature vegetable too long in the ground? ROT. DECAY.
nice and useful

Oslo, Norway

#237 May 26, 2013
Darth Sidious wrote:
"I like to warn people who are comtemplating moving their entire life to Victoria BC, that they need to think things over very carefully. All the negatives they would find in other major Canadian cities are even more concentrated in Victoria and it feels worse. There are 1000s of university and college graduates who graduate and can't find work worthy of their education and end up fighting for low pay, crappy jobs that are beneath their abilities and experiences. Large parts of the people are unemployed or under employed for years. You can forget about owning cars, houses, condos, or go on any vacations. You would be lucky to afford rent, food, untilites for the long term."
This is another comment from a related blog comment about Victoria BC. The reality is a stark contast to fantasy. Don't get conned into a bad deal. I suggest everyone do some employer pre-employment research before agreeing to the available jobs in Victoria ( www.ratemyemployer.ca ). Do you still think it is a nice place to live?
I checked out the ratemyemployer web site. All types of employers big, medium, and small are rated by current and past staff. I think it is a helpful and useful web site. Similar sites in UK and US would be ratemyfirm, jobvent, glassdoor. I'm sure there are others in other countries. Dumb bosses often run their businesses in ways that cause more stress, more unnecessary work, bad PR reputation. Their anger management issues are just going to compound. They can forget about any personal quality time with family, friends, and hobbies. They just don't know any better or new ways of doing things beyond the old military top down command model. The underlings end up in constant revolt. The higher ranking wealthy people can be bossy and demanding because they have higher social rank and money, power.
not that hot

United States

#238 May 27, 2013
Life in general there is not that hot. No fun city keeps popping up in various conversation. The entire metro region could benefit from a total makeover. I'm surprised all the landlords don't spend a lot of money to do the makeovers and use the opportunity to increase the value and make more money? I think many Victorians are allergic and adverse to making money and getting more rich? I think Victoria should have a permanent Disneyland, Knotts Berry Farm, California Adventures style theme park. Tourists and locals want more fresh and new. I too have read that Yahoo News story on money can buy you more happiness. The graphs and charts look very interesting.

Since: Apr 13

Victoria, Canada

#239 May 27, 2013
not that hot wrote:
Life in general there is not that hot. No fun city keeps popping up in various conversation. The entire metro region could benefit from a total makeover. I'm surprised all the landlords don't spend a lot of money to do the makeovers and use the opportunity to increase the value and make more money? I think many Victorians are allergic and adverse to making money and getting more rich? I think Victoria should have a permanent Disneyland, Knotts Berry Farm, California Adventures style theme park. Tourists and locals want more fresh and new. I too have read that Yahoo News story on money can buy you more happiness. The graphs and charts look very interesting.
Some people just don't get it, and thats fine. If its all about money to you don't come to Victoria with no skills.
Victoria is where people come to enjoy life. Lots of people make good money here, but if you are looking for boom-town go somewhere else.
Soon2Be a Former Albertan

Saint Albert, Canada

#241 May 31, 2013
ATTENTION unattached, ambitious, young people with average IQ. Speak to a career counsellor, choose a trade, head to the camps near Ft.MacMurray and latch onto a Master Journeyman/person. Say, "I wish to become the best welder, carpenter, boiler maker, plumber, electrician...I can. Save up enough to get a mortgage on a home in Victoria and hire a property manager to take care of it. When your house is nearly paid off move home and apply your skills locally. You'll be in your late 20's with a home, savings and employment skills. It will be easier to attract a substantial mate and move on to the next chapter of your life. I'm retired and this past winter in Edmonton was brutal. I'm looking forward to the next chapter of my life in Victoria and will make the best of it.
Too Bad It is So True

United States

#242 May 31, 2013
Soon2Be a Former Albertan wrote:
ATTENTION unattached, ambitious, young people with average IQ. Speak to a career counsellor, choose a trade, head to the camps near Ft.MacMurray and latch onto a Master Journeyman/person. Say, "I wish to become the best welder, carpenter, boiler maker, plumber, electrician...I can. Save up enough to get a mortgage on a home in Victoria and hire a property manager to take care of it. When your house is nearly paid off move home and apply your skills locally. You'll be in your late 20's with a home, savings and employment skills. It will be easier to attract a substantial mate and move on to the next chapter of your life. I'm retired and this past winter in Edmonton was brutal. I'm looking forward to the next chapter of my life in Victoria and will make the best of it.
It is just too bad what this guy says is true. Victoria on purpose or by clueless default drives out all the young and not as young talented, ambitious people to make other cities and towns rich instead of keeping them in Greater Victoria making Victoria rich. Do you notice all the foreign students rush out of Victoria as soon as their time is up at UVic, Camosun College, Royal Roads University, Pearson College of the Pacific? There is nothing for them to stay.
HBC Mistake

Victoria, Canada

#243 May 31, 2013
Soon2Be a Former Albertan wrote:
ATTENTION unattached, ambitious, young people with average IQ. Speak to a career counsellor, choose a trade, head to the camps near Ft.MacMurray and latch onto a Master Journeyman/person. Say, "I wish to become the best welder, carpenter, boiler maker, plumber, electrician...I can. Save up enough to get a mortgage on a home in Victoria and hire a property manager to take care of it. When your house is nearly paid off move home and apply your skills locally. You'll be in your late 20's with a home, savings and employment skills. It will be easier to attract a substantial mate and move on to the next chapter of your life. I'm retired and this past winter in Edmonton was brutal. I'm looking forward to the next chapter of my life in Victoria and will make the best of it.
Yeah, what the hell is wrong with Victoria!? This Alberta guy and many others just re-confirmed a lingering bad fact about Greater Victoria. This bad fact insists on sticking around like an itchy rash that just doesn't go away. "Newly Wed and Nearly Dead" and it just can't for the live of the city region seem to do anything else no matter how hard or not it tries. Saint Albert AB man is making $$$$$$$ in Alberta and relocating to Victoria BC to retire, get older, and die. Is that Victoria's big dream, to become a old folks home and cemetery? How innovative and exciting.

I have a very opinionated and egotistical friend who is more mouth than brains when it comes to thinking before talking, but even I am starting to agree with him about "Retardia", the longer I see things. More than 1 person agree with him and me that Victoria decisions makers of all types seem "retarded" in how they choose things.

"Your resume and credentials are impeccable and everything we want. Oh no, not you, because you are over qualified and under qualified at the same time. Maybe we will find someone else like you and give it to them. Meanwhile, our operations are inefficient and we have no staff to do the work., Thank You." Another friend got tired of the insane Victoria systemic BS and took all his school certificates to the Alberta Oil Sands. He and many others couldn't find worthy work in Victoria even when they were hiring. Why do you think all the foreign and domestic student leave when school is over?
Soon2Be a Former Albertan

Saint Albert, Canada

#244 Jun 1, 2013
In 1980 I moved to Alberta from Winnipeg because I could not find a good paying job with my M.A. in psychology. A young person who wishes to secure a middle class lifestyle in Victoria may have to sacrifice 5 years of their lives in the wilderness to reach their goal. There are thousands of Albertans on their way to the island hoping rain is less onerous than snow. Unless you have skills in high demand e.g. gerontologist, denturist, bunion-scaler you won't be able to afford a decent place to live. Lacking high demand natural resources, Victoria doesn't appear to have an economy friendly to young people just starting out.
Not As It Should Be

Sweden

#245 Jun 1, 2013
Soon2Be a Former Albertan wrote:
In 1980 I moved to Alberta from Winnipeg because I could not find a good paying job with my M.A. in psychology. A young person who wishes to secure a middle class lifestyle in Victoria may have to sacrifice 5 years of their lives in the wilderness to reach their goal. There are thousands of Albertans on their way to the island hoping rain is less onerous than snow. Unless you have skills in high demand e.g. gerontologist, denturist, bunion-scaler you won't be able to afford a decent place to live. Lacking high demand natural resources, Victoria doesn't appear to have an economy friendly to young people just starting out.
I heard that BC and Vancouver Island is sitting near or on top of 330 million barrels of ocean oil still left untapped since the Pierre Trudeau Liberal federal government shut down offshore oil drilling in 1967-68? There is also a lot of gas too. Victoria and Vancouver Island sit on a sea trade route, it should be even more prosperous than Calgary or Edmonton. Victoria and the BC coastal people just couldn't get their priorities and policies to make BC wealthier. Pop the oil cap and pump out the remaining BC off shore oil and gas to sell to the rising rich countries.

Since: Apr 13

Victoria, Canada

#246 Jun 1, 2013
Soon2Be a Former Albertan wrote:
ATTENTION unattached, ambitious, young people with average IQ. Speak to a career counsellor, choose a trade, head to the camps near Ft.MacMurray and latch onto a Master Journeyman/person. Say, "I wish to become the best welder, carpenter, boiler maker, plumber, electrician...I can. Save up enough to get a mortgage on a home in Victoria and hire a property manager to take care of it. When your house is nearly paid off move home and apply your skills locally. You'll be in your late 20's with a home, savings and employment skills. It will be easier to attract a substantial mate and move on to the next chapter of your life. I'm retired and this past winter in Edmonton was brutal. I'm looking forward to the next chapter of my life in Victoria and will make the best of it.
Good advice. But the losers who are whining on this site would never make it in Fort Mac. They know it. Thats why they stay in Moms basement.

Since: Apr 13

Victoria, Canada

#247 Jun 1, 2013
HBC Mistake wrote:
<quoted text>
Yeah, what the hell is wrong with Victoria!? This Alberta guy and many others just re-confirmed a lingering bad fact about Greater Victoria. This bad fact insists on sticking around like an itchy rash that just doesn't go away. "Newly Wed and Nearly Dead" and it just can't for the live of the city region seem to do anything else no matter how hard or not it tries. Saint Albert AB man is making $$$$$$$ in Alberta and relocating to Victoria BC to retire, get older, and die. Is that Victoria's big dream, to become a old folks home and cemetery? How innovative and exciting.
I have a very opinionated and egotistical friend who is more mouth than brains when it comes to thinking before talking, but even I am starting to agree with him about "Retardia", the longer I see things. More than 1 person agree with him and me that Victoria decisions makers of all types seem "retarded" in how they choose things.
"Your resume and credentials are impeccable and everything we want. Oh no, not you, because you are over qualified and under qualified at the same time. Maybe we will find someone else like you and give it to them. Meanwhile, our operations are inefficient and we have no staff to do the work., Thank You." Another friend got tired of the insane Victoria systemic BS and took all his school certificates to the Alberta Oil Sands. He and many others couldn't find worthy work in Victoria even when they were hiring. Why do you think all the foreign and domestic student leave when school is over?
So why don't you leave? Do you have a piano tied to your ass?

Since: Apr 13

Victoria, Canada

#248 Jun 1, 2013
Soon2Be a Former Albertan wrote:
In 1980 I moved to Alberta from Winnipeg because I could not find a good paying job with my M.A. in psychology. A young person who wishes to secure a middle class lifestyle in Victoria may have to sacrifice 5 years of their lives in the wilderness to reach their goal. There are thousands of Albertans on their way to the island hoping rain is less onerous than snow. Unless you have skills in high demand e.g. gerontologist, denturist, bunion-scaler you won't be able to afford a decent place to live. Lacking high demand natural resources, Victoria doesn't appear to have an economy friendly to young people just starting out.
I agree. Many people work their ass off in hell-holes in Alberta and Sask so they can eventually afford to live here.

But, I moved here with two kids and a wife and no job. My sons are happy and doing fine and I have a paid for house to leave them when I kick. In the meantime we have enjoyed life in a very beautiful place to live.
I truly do feel blessed.

I feel sorry for the whiners who hate Victoria, but have'nt got the gumption to do anything about it. Maybe they should seek counselling or go on anti depressants.
Jen

Edmonton, Canada

#249 Jun 1, 2013
All this shit is Amazing to read! I live in Alberta and am amazed at how many people are here from Victoria. And all they do is BITCH about how bad it is in bc and how it's horrible and they treat everyone out here like we owe them for all the crap they went though!!!! STAY IN BC THEN!!! If it is just as bad here?? Why come???? I have visited Vancouver island and will never go back was treated like shit because I'm from Alberta. Not everyone out here is a cowboy beef eating hick!
I agree all the beauty is lovely in Victoria but the ignorant people make the beauty drift away!
Tourism will only get you so far. Save money and your sanity just move to Calgary or Edmonton. There is sustainable employment and rentals or affordable house purchasing.
Take care all!
Why

Victoria, Canada

#250 Jun 2, 2013
Jen wrote:
All this shit is Amazing to read! I live in Alberta and am amazed at how many people are here from Victoria. And all they do is BITCH about how bad it is in bc and how it's horrible and they treat everyone out here like we owe them for all the crap they went though!!!! STAY IN BC THEN!!! If it is just as bad here?? Why come???? I have visited Vancouver island and will never go back was treated like shit because I'm from Alberta. Not everyone out here is a cowboy beef eating hick!
I agree all the beauty is lovely in Victoria but the ignorant people make the beauty drift away!
Tourism will only get you so far. Save money and your sanity just move to Calgary or Edmonton. There is sustainable employment and rentals or affordable house purchasing.
Take care all!
I once asked a Victorian British Columbian if he thought most of his fellow BCers were arrogant, stuck up, short sighted, dull as mud, whack jobs, unqualified assholes by his comment. He replied, "YES!" You see, it is a persistent cultural, political, economic problem, a form of long term collective handicap really.
Frustration Ville

United States

#251 Jun 2, 2013
I am surprised Greater Victoria doesn't think it is serious that ex Victorians are in other cities negatively criticizing Victoria being restricted, limited, slow, cheap, and dumb. These economic social refugees are anti advertising Victoria. The Victorian complacency won't change or improve unless there is a fire under them. They will resist change and progress as long as it is possible up to the last minute.

Since: Apr 13

Victoria, Canada

#253 Jun 3, 2013
Frustration Ville wrote:
I am surprised Greater Victoria doesn't think it is serious that ex Victorians are in other cities negatively criticizing Victoria being restricted, limited, slow, cheap, and dumb. These economic social refugees are anti advertising Victoria. The Victorian complacency won't change or improve unless there is a fire under them. They will resist change and progress as long as it is possible up to the last minute.
Victoria doesn't have to worry about what a few losers are saying about the place. Its a lovely place to live and many people move here every year to enjoy it. There has been a decade long building boom building condos and houses to accommodate them all.

This is Victoria, the place to be,
You can get what you want if you got the doe-ray-me.
Foreign students

Oslo, Norway

#254 Jun 3, 2013
Brexx wrote:
<quoted text>
Victoria doesn't have to worry about what a few losers are saying about the place. Its a lovely place to live and many people move here every year to enjoy it. There has been a decade long building boom building condos and houses to accommodate them all.
This is Victoria, the place to be,
You can get what you want if you got the doe-ray-me.
The building boom has slowed down a lot. They are not madly rushing around like crazy in the past years to put up buildings. The economic power in Victoria is fizzling out. The people have no money to keep the "party" going. I had friends who went to college in the trades. The university types are doing much worse for their over priced useless education papers.
yeah good for 4 to 5 year

Sweden

#255 Jun 3, 2013
Foreign students wrote:
<quoted text>
The building boom has slowed down a lot. They are not madly rushing around like crazy in the past years to put up buildings. The economic power in Victoria is fizzling out. The people have no money to keep the "party" going. I had friends who went to college in the trades. The university types are doing much worse for their over priced useless education papers.
Yes, Victoria is a very good city to attend school, social, party, for 4 to 5 years and then leave to another Canadian city or another country. LOL!

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