Property Manager Problems?
westender

Vancouver, Canada

#144 Feb 16, 2012
I agree. Let's name the scumbags. Maybe we should set up a twitter page and OUT every problem encountered from Management companies and incompetent strata councils.
Stratum wrote:
Post who the Strata is and who the management company is. <quoted text>
bertha

North Vancouver, Canada

#145 Feb 23, 2012
tHE manager company in our case was not involved in this until I knOW.
Anonymous001

Langley, Canada

#146 Mar 4, 2012
Here's a name for the list - Bill Cathcart, Strata Council President for Westminster Towers, and Crossroads Management being the strata management company.

Just received an alarmed phone call a few minutes ago - it's 04:00 a.m.- from our tenant. Apparently, despite having parking insurance on the tenant's vehicle, and without any notice to the tenant or ourselves, their vehicle amongst many others apparently was towed from the underground parking in a "midnight raid". This can't be legal - the tenant indicated they've been using the same parking spot for the last two years they've resided there and it's the same spot we were allocated years ago.

On looking up the Strata Property Act, is this not illegal according to section 135? And I quote...

Complaint, right to answer and notice of decision

135 (1) The strata corporation must not

(a) impose a fine against a person,

(b) require a person to pay the costs of remedying a contravention, or

(c) deny a person the use of a recreational facility

for a contravention of a bylaw or rule unless the strata corporation has

(d) received a complaint about the contravention,

(e) given the owner or tenant the particulars of the complaint, in writing, and a reasonable opportunity to answer the complaint, including a hearing if requested by the owner or tenant, and

(f) if the person is a tenant, given notice of the complaint to the person's landlord and to the owner.

(2) The strata corporation must, as soon as feasible, give notice in writing of a decision on a matter referred to in subsection (1)(a),(b) or (c) to the persons referred to in subsection (1)(e) and (f).

(3) Once a strata corporation has complied with this section in respect of a contravention of a bylaw or rule, it may impose a fine or other penalty for a continuing contravention of that bylaw or rule without further compliance with this section.

Can Strata simply decide to change parking stalls without notice, claim a contravention, and simply have a vehicle removed WITHOUT notice to either ourselves or the tenant? IS THIS LAWFUL??

Yes, we're upset - especially having been woken up to this nonsense at this hour by a frantic tenant.
Stratum

Langley, Canada

#147 Mar 4, 2012
I would suggest you join the Union of Strata Property Owners USPO. [email protected] and seek their assistance.
Anonymous001 wrote:
Here's a name for the list - Bill Cathcart, Strata Council President for Westminster Towers, and Crossroads Management being the strata management company.
Just received an alarmed phone call a few minutes ago - it's 04:00 a.m.- from our tenant. Apparently, despite having parking insurance on the tenant's vehicle, and without any notice to the tenant or ourselves, their vehicle amongst many others apparently was towed from the underground parking in a "midnight raid". This can't be legal - the tenant indicated they've been using the same parking spot for the last two years they've resided there and it's the same spot we were allocated years ago.
On looking up the Strata Property Act, is this not illegal according to section 135? And I quote...
Complaint, right to answer and notice of decision
135 (1) The strata corporation must not
(a) impose a fine against a person,
(b) require a person to pay the costs of remedying a contravention, or
(c) deny a person the use of a recreational facility
for a contravention of a bylaw or rule unless the strata corporation has
(d) received a complaint about the contravention,
(e) given the owner or tenant the particulars of the complaint, in writing, and a reasonable opportunity to answer the complaint, including a hearing if requested by the owner or tenant, and
(f) if the person is a tenant, given notice of the complaint to the person's landlord and to the owner.
(2) The strata corporation must, as soon as feasible, give notice in writing of a decision on a matter referred to in subsection (1)(a),(b) or (c) to the persons referred to in subsection (1)(e) and (f).
(3) Once a strata corporation has complied with this section in respect of a contravention of a bylaw or rule, it may impose a fine or other penalty for a continuing contravention of that bylaw or rule without further compliance with this section.
Can Strata simply decide to change parking stalls without notice, claim a contravention, and simply have a vehicle removed WITHOUT notice to either ourselves or the tenant? IS THIS LAWFUL??
Yes, we're upset - especially having been woken up to this nonsense at this hour by a frantic tenant.
Anonymous001

Langley, Canada

#148 Mar 4, 2012
Stratum wrote:
I would suggest you join the Union of Strata Property Owners USPO. [email protected] and seek their assistance. <quoted text>
Thank you for your response and insight into this matter; greatly appreciated. We have a great long-term relationship with this tenant, and don't want to end up losing them to this kind of idiocy.
westender

Vancouver, Canada

#149 Mar 4, 2012
Thanks for naming names. This is despicable and power playing at its worst. You might want to get 20% owners to demand a special meeting and vote off the strata president or the whole council if you wish. Also, you can vote to cancel the management contract. If you request a special meeting, you can EXCLUDE management from attending. And while you discuss firing the council, they cannot be present. Take the bull by the horns. Good luck.

Anonymous001 wrote:
Here's a name for the list - Bill Cathcart, Strata Council President for Westminster Towers, and Crossroads Management being the strata management company.
Just received an alarmed phone call a few minutes ago - it's 04:00 a.m.- from our tenant. Apparently, despite having parking insurance on the tenant's vehicle, and without any notice to the tenant or ourselves, their vehicle amongst many others apparently was towed from the underground parking in a "midnight raid". This can't be legal - the tenant indicated they've been using the same parking spot for the last two years they've resided there and it's the same spot we were allocated years ago.
On looking up the Strata Property Act, is this not illegal according to section 135? And I quote...
Complaint, right to answer and notice of decision
135 (1) The strata corporation must not
(a) impose a fine against a person,
(b) require a person to pay the costs of remedying a contravention, or
(c) deny a person the use of a recreational facility
for a contravention of a bylaw or rule unless the strata corporation has
(d) received a complaint about the contravention,
(e) given the owner or tenant the particulars of the complaint, in writing, and a reasonable opportunity to answer the complaint, including a hearing if requested by the owner or tenant, and
(f) if the person is a tenant, given notice of the complaint to the person's landlord and to the owner.
(2) The strata corporation must, as soon as feasible, give notice in writing of a decision on a matter referred to in subsection (1)(a),(b) or (c) to the persons referred to in subsection (1)(e) and (f).
(3) Once a strata corporation has complied with this section in respect of a contravention of a bylaw or rule, it may impose a fine or other penalty for a continuing contravention of that bylaw or rule without further compliance with this section.
Can Strata simply decide to change parking stalls without notice, claim a contravention, and simply have a vehicle removed WITHOUT notice to either ourselves or the tenant? IS THIS LAWFUL??
Yes, we're upset - especially having been woken up to this nonsense at this hour by a frantic tenant.
bertha

North Vancouver, Canada

#150 Mar 9, 2012
Can the resident manager be the president of the board just because she is a co-owner?
bertha

North Vancouver, Canada

#152 Mar 26, 2012
Looks like that I did not mention de property managment company is Rancho managment;
contracting to stratas

Canada

#153 Mar 27, 2012
That sounds like a conflict of interest to me Bertha.
Bayworst

Vancouver, Canada

#154 Apr 2, 2012
My Co-op is managed by Baywest. Over the last 7 years, the board of directors has slowly come under control of several malicious individuals who are in collusion with Baywest (or at least their management representative).

Bullying, ostracization, humiliation, legal threats, physical threats, fraud, embezzlement. You name it there is evidence that it has happened here. The Board takes our management rep, Georgette Rotaru from Baywest Management, out for lunches dinners and coffee while explaining to her who they want punished and who they want rewarded. This couple (one is not even a board member but gives directions to Georgette directly) controls parking, storage, unit moves, rent, and just about every other facet of our lives.

Recently 75% of the membership got together at the AGM and tried to remove the corrupt board. I will not even go into what happened as it is too emotionally intense an experience to even contemplate what happened. Long story short, the old Board is trying to pretend there was no election and are sending a plethora of legal threats saying that Baywest runs the Coop and we will all pay for our sins. They say that the old people will lose their subsidy and that her lawyers will sue us for defamation and that we should all "enjoy" what's coming. The woman's name is Cheryl Hollinger - she is a terrible human being in my opinion.

We are still continuing on with the Good Fight. If it ends up in court, at least I know that it will be the entire membership vs this couple and Baywest. Ridiculous.
christine rose

White Rock, Canada

#155 Apr 2, 2012
re Depeciation Reports
Any owners have a sample of a completed depreciation report?

eg
18 unit ......25 years old building
55 unit ......16 year old building

Any estimates re the cost of an initial report..not the cost of implementation which is a horror to thousands of conso owners...faced with increased of monthly maintenance charges of up to 100%!

HOW CAN AN 30 YEAR OLD BUILDING WITH SAY 30 OWNERS PLAN A $600,000.00 /30 YEAR DEPRECIATION FUND REQUIREMENT?....WHY NO DISCUSSION OF THIS MATTER IN THE PRESS OR ON THIS SITE?.
bertha

North Vancouver, Canada

#156 Apr 2, 2012
Good news the answered from the Court arrived today,the case was DISMISSED.
christine rose

White Rock, Canada

#157 Apr 2, 2012
SOME ADDITIONAL INFO

The changes means that every strata corporation will have to file a “depreciation report” every three years, outlining the current conditions and of the strata building, and also file and continually update a 30-year budget for repair, maintenance and upgrades. The first depreciation reports must be filed by the end of 2013.

The changes were forced because some B.C. residential strata corporations, the first of which are now 40 years old, have failed to keep contingency funds at levels required under the Strata Property Act. THERE MUST BE MORE REASONS THAN THIS RATHER LAME EXCUSE...PLUS WHAT BUSINESS IS IT OF THE GOVERNMENT?

http://www.housing.gov.bc.ca/pub/stratapdf/Gu...

“The government is trying to clean up the on-going upgrade, repair, maintenance process in B.C.[residential] stratas,” Hamilton said,“it is for consumer protection.”

The changes could raise strata fees, he added, as strata corporations pay to prepare and update the reports, which could run as high as $50,000 for a large condominium building.
all liberal crap

Canada

#158 Apr 3, 2012
depreciation reports will not work as it will be circumvented with by-laws
contracting to stratas

Canada

#159 Apr 3, 2012
Bayworst wrote:
My Co-op is managed by Baywest. Over the last 7 years, the board of directors has slowly come under control of several malicious individuals who are in collusion with Baywest (or at least their management representative).
Bullying, ostracization, humiliation, legal threats, physical threats, fraud, embezzlement. You name it there is evidence that it has happened here. The Board takes our management rep, Georgette Rotaru from Baywest Management, out for lunches dinners and coffee while explaining to her who they want punished and who they want rewarded. This couple (one is not even a board member but gives directions to Georgette directly) controls parking, storage, unit moves, rent, and just about every other facet of our lives.
Recently 75% of the membership got together at the AGM and tried to remove the corrupt board. I will not even go into what happened as it is too emotionally intense an experience to even contemplate what happened. Long story short, the old Board is trying to pretend there was no election and are sending a plethora of legal threats saying that Baywest runs the Coop and we will all pay for our sins. They say that the old people will lose their subsidy and that her lawyers will sue us for defamation and that we should all "enjoy" what's coming. The woman's name is Cheryl Hollinger - she is a terrible human being in my opinion.
We are still continuing on with the Good Fight. If it ends up in court, at least I know that it will be the entire membership vs this couple and Baywest. Ridiculous.
My company refuses to work with Bayworst. What you have said above is typical of their dirty methods. Unfortunately, we now have to ask strata's who their management is. If it is bayworst, ASS-END or a couple others that are continual jerks and rip offs to contractors, then we politely decline doing an estimate.

Living in a strata and dealing with the politics is hard enough. Co-ops are also a very stressful place to live.

I don't believe that the strata property act applies to co-ops.
christine rose

White Rock, Canada

#160 Apr 4, 2012
all liberal crap wrote:
depreciation reports will not work as it will be circumvented with by-laws
No buyer or their mortgage provider shall look at any condo over 10 years old!...who would take on a share of a depreciation financial plan of say $15,000 a year for 30 years?

condo market about to crash?

ANY OWNER HAVE THEIR DEPRECIATION REPORT FUNDED AND IN PLACE?
all liberal crap

Maple Ridge, Canada

#161 Apr 5, 2012
any good property management company would have had the depreciation report in place long ago. architects have had "life cycles" of buildings they build made available for many years.

Why isn't or hasn't this been done at the development stage rather now when it's too late.

Besides, SPABC doesn't require a "qualified" person to perform this report....even an agent could prepare this depreciation report...

A qualified person can only be an architech or an engineer.

Come on! an agent? are these agents not the real cause of all strata misdeeds?

Agents are very good at covering-up problems...it leeds to stressful living,leeds to more paperwork...hense more money for them...it leeds to owners having to sell to get out of troubled buildings, hense more money for them...

spabc represents agents and property management companies...NOT OWNERS.

save your building, save your money, remove your management company! THE ROOT OF ALL EVIL IN STRATA LIVING !
christine rose

White Rock, Canada

#162 Apr 7, 2012
good points from all liberal crap

Why very little responce from Vancouver condos?
bertha

North Vancouver, Canada

#163 Apr 11, 2012
I really apreciated your support,We have that we deserved.
contracting to stratas

Coquitlam, Canada

#164 Apr 11, 2012
Vancouver Condo's....I heard they were bought out by a company from the U.S. that is buying up a few of the management companies in Vancouver.

I find this concerning.

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