Mallick: Canadian anti-Idle No More r...

Mallick: Canadian anti-Idle No More racism grows online

There are 174 comments on the The Toronto Star story from Jan 13, 2013, titled Mallick: Canadian anti-Idle No More racism grows online. In it, The Toronto Star reports that:

It turns out that writing a column about Idle No More and the ongoing battle by Indians in Canada for fair treatment attracts racists the way a wet lawn calls out to worms.

Join the discussion below, or Read more at The Toronto Star.

PURELYCANADIAN

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#21 Jan 19, 2013
Some peoples children!
Wallflower

London, Canada

#22 Jan 19, 2013
Anish you shouldn't attack people providing actual information. The Solutrean and Clovis are taught in western culture universities. Keep posting PURELY CANADIAN, I enjoy your point of view.

Where the Native Americans originated from is not important for the idle nor more protest. They signed the treaties with British Monarch not the corporation of Canada. They are not subjects to Canadian law.

PURELYCANADIAN

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#23 Jan 19, 2013
Wallflower wrote:
Anish you shouldn't attack people providing actual information. The Solutrean and Clovis are taught in western culture universities. Keep posting PURELY CANADIAN, I enjoy your point of view.
Where the Native Americans originated from is not important for the idle nor more protest. They signed the treaties with British Monarch not the corporation of Canada. They are not subjects to Canadian law.
Thanks Wallflower! And good point about the Treaties too:)
Anish

Istanbul, Turkey

#24 Jan 19, 2013
It's not the fact I don't like the theories, it's the fact that you use a theory to try to justify yourself, and the theory really does not say anything. You're claiming the 'Kennewick' man is European, which scientists haven't even proven. I guess it's your theory it's European. It's you who brought genetics into this conversation, which shows who is expressing supremacy and self-deception. Oh, and you know many white supremacists hey? Good for you.

"And when the did Europeans ever take over Africa???"
Does apartheid ring a bell? According to you, Africa should also be white man's land because the pre-historic man that Europeans descended from was also on the African continent. In that case, it was also over in the steppes of Russia too. I guess that means the whole world is the white man's right? You say this has nothing to do with Supremacy? You're just pissed off your ancestors tried to conquer another continent, and fcked up, and now you have to pay for it for the rest of your life by having to share it with the original inhabitants, equally, and fairly,(which is not happening, hence INM). Sorry bud, it's the way she goes. Keep on with the theories though, it's entertaining.

PURELYCANADIAN

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#25 Jan 19, 2013
Anish wrote:
It's not the fact I don't like the theories, it's the fact that you use a theory to try to justify yourself, and the theory really does not say anything. You're claiming the 'Kennewick' man is European, which scientists haven't even proven. I guess it's your theory it's European. It's you who brought genetics into this conversation, which shows who is expressing supremacy and self-deception. Oh, and you know many white supremacists hey? Good for you.
"And when the did Europeans ever take over Africa???"
Does apartheid ring a bell? According to you, Africa should also be white man's land because the pre-historic man that Europeans descended from was also on the African continent. In that case, it was also over in the steppes of Russia too. I guess that means the whole world is the white man's right? You say this has nothing to do with Supremacy? You're just pissed off your ancestors tried to conquer another continent, and fcked up, and now you have to pay for it for the rest of your life by having to share it with the original inhabitants, equally, and fairly,(which is not happening, hence INM). Sorry bud, it's the way she goes. Keep on with the theories though, it's entertaining.
So you not only insist on calling me a white supremacist because because I was able to counter your post, for which I've read similar posts thousands of times before. Now you want to mince my words and accuse me of personally knowing white supremacists?

Face, you are the one with issues. Your accusations are unfounded and weak! Get a life! Oh, and btw, at this rate you are sure to make a couple of thousand posts in no time. That's if you haven't already?
Anish

Istanbul, Turkey

#26 Jan 19, 2013
Wallflower wrote:
Anish you shouldn't attack people providing actual information. The Solutrean and Clovis are taught in western culture universities. Keep posting PURELY CANADIAN, I enjoy your point of view.
Where the Native Americans originated from is not important for the idle nor more protest. They signed the treaties with British Monarch not the corporation of Canada. They are not subjects to Canadian law.
EXACTLY, it's not relevant to Idle No More where FN's came from. The whole subject is how FN's have been treated, and the ongoing changes to legislation that are infringing on the rights of aboriginals, but of course favored by those chiefs at the top.

I proposed a hypothetical question in the beginning, and was attacked by someone trying to bring theories in. Idle No More carries no theories, we all know what happened to indigenous people, and we all know (well some of us) how the government of Canada was set up. If you are disrespecting how the Canadian government was set up by not acknowledging treaty rights, your are not a Canadian in my opinion.

PURELYCANADIAN

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#27 Jan 19, 2013
Anish wrote:
It's not the fact I don't like the theories, it's the fact that you use a theory to try to justify yourself, and the theory really does not say anything. You're claiming the 'Kennewick' man is European, which scientists haven't even proven. I guess it's your theory it's European. It's you who brought genetics into this conversation, which shows who is expressing supremacy and self-deception. Oh, and you know many white supremacists hey? Good for you.
"And when the did Europeans ever take over Africa???"
Does apartheid ring a bell? According to you, Africa should also be white man's land because the pre-historic man that Europeans descended from was also on the African continent. In that case, it was also over in the steppes of Russia too. I guess that means the whole world is the white man's right? You say this has nothing to do with Supremacy? You're just pissed off your ancestors tried to conquer another continent, and fcked up, and now you have to pay for it for the rest of your life by having to share it with the original inhabitants, equally, and fairly,(which is not happening, hence INM). Sorry bud, it's the way she goes. Keep on with the theories though, it's entertaining.
Well firstly, according to the South African government, they are considered a multicultural country. Although with over 40,000 white people murdered (genocide) since apartheid, you would never know it.

Secondly, according to evolutionary theories....we are all descendants of Africa. And therefore, we are all migrants.

PURELYCANADIAN

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#28 Jan 19, 2013
Anish wrote:
<quoted text>
EXACTLY, it's not relevant to Idle No More where FN's came from. The whole subject is how FN's have been treated, and the ongoing changes to legislation that are infringing on the rights of aboriginals, but of course favored by those chiefs at the top.
I proposed a hypothetical question in the beginning, and was attacked by someone trying to bring theories in. Idle No More carries no theories, we all know what happened to indigenous people, and we all know (well some of us) how the government of Canada was set up. If you are disrespecting how the Canadian government was set up by not acknowledging treaty rights, your are not a Canadian in my opinion.
You made an accusation, you didn't pose a hypothetical question. Go back and read your damn post. If you feel you were attacked then so be it. I am more then a little sick of hearing this point of view. So maybe you should go pick some other forum to deliver your guilt trips. Cause it ain't working here. Is it?
Wallflower

London, Canada

#29 Jan 19, 2013
Anish wrote:
<quoted text>
If you are disrespecting how the Canadian government was set up by not acknowledging treaty rights, your are not a Canadian in my opinion.
I would say 95% of Canadian don't know exactly how the Canadian Government was formed (Or how the Government works now). There is a lot of disinformation and propaganda in our education system. Since the federal government has introduced No Child Left Behind (aka teach to the dumbest student) there is no critical thinking. Just regurgitation.

It sounds like you don't know how the Canadian Government works either (I'm no expert) by insinuating the Canadian Government signed the treaties. The Native Americans want to discuss their issues with the original treaty signee, the monarch. The monarch is saying they gave the power to the Canadian government but there is no documentation of that.
Anish

Istanbul, Turkey

#30 Jan 19, 2013
PURELYCANADIAN wrote:
<quoted text>
You made an accusation, you didn't pose a hypothetical question. Go back and read your damn post. If you feel you were attacked then so be it.
Well first you can drop the king of the shit pile attitude, then maybe you can explain what you perceive as accusation? I've read my post and obviously I don't see it. If you understood the use of proper rhetoric, you would try to challenge the question I posed rather than attack it with the age-old "you weren't even here first" thing. How about you read it again. You seem pretty open about your anti-immigration views, so maybe it's a challenge for you. What would you do if Canada were taken over by the Caliph? Since you're 'Purely Canadian' you might lose your identity, how do you feel about that? Would you accept it as is, or teach your young ones to forever fight against it to regain your "Canadian Purity'? What makes you, as a self-described Pure Canadian, any different than an American? Other than the fact Canada's government was set up on treaty?
Anish

Istanbul, Turkey

#31 Jan 19, 2013
Wallflower wrote:
<quoted text>
It sounds like you don't know how the Canadian Government works either (I'm no expert) by insinuating the Canadian Government signed the treaties. The Native Americans want to discuss their issues with the original treaty signee, the monarch. The monarch is saying they gave the power to the Canadian government but there is no documentation of that.
I think you heard wrong, but I'm not claiming expertise either. I didn't say Canada made the Treaties, the whole system was actually established based on the treaties by the monarch. As for where the power lies, yes, that is the mystery, which in my opinion shows how Mickey Mouse the system is, and why people are demanding to sort this situation out with the presence of the monarch. The Canadian government still doesn't even understand the constitution, they are still trying to figure our aboriginal self-governance. If they don't know where the power lies, it can be assumed they don't have the power to sort this situation out, which leaves the Canadian government in a vulnerable place.
Faith

New Baltimore, MI

#32 Jan 19, 2013
"I had always thought that one of the joys of Canadian life was its abhorrence of racism. But judging by some of the email I received and the comments I read online elsewhere, itÂ’s getting a bit Mississippian around here...."

This washed out w'hore should take care of her own backyard before she starts pointing fingers at Americans. We treated our Injuns just fine. We gave them all the liquor they could drink and some casinos to keep them busy.

There really aren't many of them. Most of them died off long ago from natural causes...like small pox and bullet wounds.

1USA1

“For F***'s Sake”

Since: Aug 12

Tanner Flats

#33 Jan 19, 2013
Anish wrote:
<quoted text>
EXACTLY, it's not relevant to Idle No More where FN's came from. The whole subject is how FN's have been treated, and the ongoing changes to legislation that are infringing on the rights of aboriginals, but ouf course favored by those chiefs at the top.
I proposed a hypothetical question in the beginning, and was attacked by someone trying to bring theories in. Idle No More carries no theories, we all know what happened to indigenous people, and we all know (well some of us) how the government of Canada was set up. If you are disrespecting how the Canadian government was set up by not acknowledging treaty rights, your are not a Canadian in my opinion.
Sez someone posting from Istanbul Turkey, shouldn't you be posting in a Muslim forum instead of a Canadian one?
Anish

Istanbul, Turkey

#34 Jan 19, 2013
The fck does it matter to you where it even says I'm posting from? Did I say anything about being a Muslim? I guess you flag wavers think Muslims can't be Canadian either, way to tell the world how to be as usual. You're posting from the states, shouldn't you be posting on a Mormon forum instead of a Canadian one?
Wallflower

London, Canada

#35 Jan 19, 2013
1USA1 wrote:
<quoted text>Sez someone posting from Istanbul Turkey, shouldn't you be posting in a Muslim forum instead of a Canadian one?
Anyone who thinks the trivial differences (nationality, religion, race, etc.) between humans trumps the fact there we are one species is a troll or just ignorant.

It's sad and annoying when people attack each other instead of the issues. Lets try to keep it to the facts.

1USA1

“For F***'s Sake”

Since: Aug 12

Tanner Flats

#36 Jan 19, 2013
Wallflower wrote:
<quoted text>
Anyone who thinks the trivial differences (nationality, religion, race, etc.) between humans trumps the fact there we are one species is a troll or just ignorant.
It's sad and annoying when people attack each other instead of the issues. Lets try to keep it to the facts.
I just thought it was amusing that someone posting from Turkey tells a Canadian their not Canadian. The differences in race and religion are not trivial and will ultimately define how far the human race progresses.
George

Red Deer, Canada

#37 Jan 19, 2013
The Indians cannot make up their mind what to call themselves, Indian, Native, or Indigenous (WTF) so if they do not know who they are don't blame people for not respecting them.

The must have gotten the indigenous name from the movie of the blue people.
Christina

Toronto, Canada

#38 Jan 19, 2013
Who cares who was here first? Why are tax paying Canadians funding welfare payments to any caple people? Why don't the protestors take their "Idle No More" slogan literally, stop being idle and start contributing?
eiaq

Palatka, FL

#39 Jan 20, 2013
RESISTANCE IS FUTILE wrote:
<quoted text>
racist whites like you turned me into a racist
lol it's nice to know that you are so weak minded and impressionable that people you don't even know can turn you "racist"
eiaq

Palatka, FL

#40 Jan 20, 2013
PURELYCANADIAN wrote:
<quoted text>
North America has been inhabited a lot longer then 7000 years. There are archeological finds to support more then 20,000 years. And the tools found, support European technology!
The discovery of "Kennewick Man" is also evidence that Europeans were here before the Olmecs and Clovis people. The Solutrean theory is widely known now and lets face it....people like you are just pissed, cause you would rather throw around the invader bullshit! It's always whitey who gets the blame.
Ironic coming from a Turk who lives on land stolen from the Armenians, Greeks and Kurds.

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