Buffalo Diocese Announces More Parish...

Buffalo Diocese Announces More Parish Closings Across WNY

There are 60961 comments on the WGRZ Buffalo story from Oct 14, 2007, titled Buffalo Diocese Announces More Parish Closings Across WNY. In it, WGRZ Buffalo reports that:

The Diocese of Buffalo's "Journey of Faith and Grace" has led to the closings of more parishes across Western New York.

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Anonymous

Buffalo, NY

#57435 Oct 18, 2013
anon wrote:
The actual St Ann parish was a prolife stronghold for generations. Their position on prolife was more important than their building. The actual St Ann parishioners would never have sought support from proabortion newspapers or proabortion politicians. They would have tried to convert those reporters, not seek their guidance and support. If they were invited to speak to proabortion city council members, they would have used the opportunity to affirm prolife, and traditional marriage, if that were under attack.
The people of St. Ann's have been treated rotten by their leaders and shepherds just like a lot of other good parishioners throughout the diocese. Don't give me that baloney. There are a lot of clergy and other administrators who support gay marriage, married priests , the homosexual life style and women priests. They are doing just fine in the diocese. You are going to blame the faithful at St. Ann who have been thrown out because of a false report and the vindictiveness of Bishop Kmienic? And now this Bishop still won't leave the people alone. There are no good arguments for ripping apart St. Ann's no matter how you try. Too bad the devil won't come up with 1 million dollars. He would be easier to work with. You are all sickening. Let me get the Barf Bag.
Anonymous

United States

#57436 Oct 18, 2013
Anonymous wrote:
<quoted text>
The people of St. Ann's have been treated rotten by their leaders and shepherds just like a lot of other good parishioners throughout the diocese. Don't give me that baloney. There are a lot of clergy and other administrators who support gay marriage, married priests , the homosexual life style and women priests. They are doing just fine in the diocese. You are going to blame the faithful at St. Ann who have been thrown out because of a false report and the vindictiveness of Bishop Kmienic? And now this Bishop still won't leave the people alone. There are no good arguments for ripping apart St. Ann's no matter how you try. Too bad the devil won't come up with 1 million dollars. He would be easier to work with. You are all sickening. Let me get the Barf Bag.
The Buffalo Preservation Board has recognized 7 out of 9 good reasons to save St. Ann’s.
Apparently, the Diocese does not seem to find any. Something’s wrong in rotten in the state of Denmark.
Anonymous

Buffalo, NY

#57437 Oct 18, 2013
Anonymous wrote:
<quoted text>
The people of St. Ann's have been treated rotten by their leaders and shepherds just like a lot of other good parishioners throughout the diocese. Don't give me that baloney. There are a lot of clergy and other administrators who support gay marriage, married priests , the homosexual life style and women priests. They are doing just fine in the diocese. You are going to blame the faithful at St. Ann who have been thrown out because of a false report and the vindictiveness of Bishop Kmienic? And now this Bishop still won't leave the people alone. There are no good arguments for ripping apart St. Ann's no matter how you try. Too bad the devil won't come up with 1 million dollars. He would be easier to work with. You are all sickening. Let me get the Barf Bag.
You are absolutely correct - many good parishioners throughout the diocese were treated like garbage by the DOB . We were strung along with empty promises, lied to, manipulated and at the end had the doors to our parish shut down. So we know what you are going through right now. You're right - they are all sickening!
Who Are You

Buffalo, NY

#57438 Oct 18, 2013
[Who are you?? The Balling Company?? A profiteering stooge for years for the Diocese of Buffalo . We will never believe you..You can be sure of that. And all of you in the Diocese , you can be sure that whenever you talk to anybody anywhere you will never be certain that they believe you. Everybody knows you are not to be trusted and never to be believed. The cones on Broadway are really really laughable. Truly lame. Get rid of them as soon as you can. You are obtructing
traffic. Especially the drug dealers coming back from the suburbs.
ANON

Buffalo, NY

#57439 Oct 18, 2013
anon wrote:
The actual St Ann parish was a prolife stronghold for generations. Their position on prolife was more important than their building. The actual St Ann parishioners would never have sought support from proabortion newspapers or proabortion politicians. They would have tried to convert those reporters, not seek their guidance and support. If they were invited to speak to proabortion city council members, they would have used the opportunity to affirm prolife, and traditional marriage, if that were under attack.
Prolife and traditional marriage were not on the agenda. Only demolition of St. Ann. Which would be a travesty and it makes us wonder why it should be a fight at all!. The only thing on the agenda was the LANDMARKING of St. Ann. If it met the criteria or not. The real question is why does it take the non catholics to appreciate the value and meaning of St Ann to the entire area>
It should have never been built in the first place. It's always the clergy gouging money out of the dummy faithful 100 years ago just as today. Too Bad.
anon

Grand Island, NY

#57440 Oct 19, 2013
The actual St. Ann parish was prolife. Its agenda was totally opposed to the agenda of the current Buffalo News. Abortion is not on the "intended" agenda of the "save St Ann" committee but abortion IS on the agenda of the media, which wants to undermine the Catholic Church, the stronghold of prolife. That's why reporters and editors who themselves never go to any church, are fanatic supporters of anyone who opposes the Catholic Church.(Prolifers seldom get letters to the editor printed, and never get positive coverage of their activities.)
Perhaps abortion isn't on YOUR mind, but consider how other people exploit your committee.
anonymous

New York, NY

#57441 Oct 19, 2013
anon wrote:
The actual St. Ann parish was prolife. Its agenda was totally opposed to the agenda of the current Buffalo News. Abortion is not on the "intended" agenda of the "save St Ann" committee but abortion IS on the agenda of the media, which wants to undermine the Catholic Church, the stronghold of prolife. That's why reporters and editors who themselves never go to any church, are fanatic supporters of anyone who opposes the Catholic Church.(Prolifers seldom get letters to the editor printed, and never get positive coverage of their activities.)
Perhaps abortion isn't on YOUR mind, but consider how other people exploit your committee.
FINALLY!!!! Something that delights me!!!! Don't be stingy.
Anonymous

United States

#57442 Oct 19, 2013
LONG STAND ST. ANN’S - Bernini built the Four Rivers fountain in Piazza Navona in Rome, topping it with a huge obelisk. At first, Romans were skirting around, afraid it would collapse At any moment. Bernini also ridiculed Borromini by sculpting a self-portrait in the fountain as he is protected himself from the falling church built by his rival. After 4 centuries, the obelisk and the church are still standing ….
Grace

Niagara Falls, NY

#57443 Oct 20, 2013
Observer wrote:
The Divine Mercy Conference was poorly attended. It was apparently a 'divine fisco'.A lady from West Seneca reported about it.
You have your facts wrong!!! Great job Father Jacek
Anonymous

Buffalo, NY

#57444 Oct 21, 2013
Grace wrote:
<quoted text>
You have your facts wrong!!! Great job Father Jacek
Who cares? No one.
anon

New York, NY

#57445 Oct 21, 2013
I HAVE heard that the cost of living in The Big Apple is quite pricey but a million dollars???????
No good ever comes from ill-gotten gains.
anon

New York, NY

#57446 Oct 21, 2013
You should have done your homework. I knew for certain that it wasn't our current Bishop.
anon

New York, NY

#57447 Oct 21, 2013
By the way, it is no longer a secret. I have QUITE the listening audience.
anon

New York, NY

#57448 Oct 21, 2013
NEW YORK — The song "Little Tin Box" is from the 1959 musical "Fiorello." Jerry Bock and Iwrote the music and lyrics respectively. It satirized the testimony of various corrupt officials in the administration of New York Mayor James J. Walker, in the early 1930s. One man was asked where he got the money to pay for certain things he could not possibly have afforded on his salary. His answer: "The money came from a little tin box my wife kept on the kitchen shelf."
Any resemblance to Oliver L. North's recent testimony--he said he was able to buy a $7,000 horse for his daughter and an $8,000 car for himself from pocket change he had collected in a "little tin box"--is purely coincidental, and absolutely fascinating.

JUDGE: Mister "X," may we ask you a question?
It's amazing, is it not, that the city pays you slightly less
than 50 bucks a week, yet you've purchased a private yacht?
WITNESS: I am positive Your Honor must be joking. Any working man can do what I have done.
For a month or two I simply gave up smoking and I put my extra pennies one by one
into a Little Tin Box, a Little Tin Box that a little tin key unlocks.
There is nothing unorthodox about a Little Tin Box.
In a Little Tin Box, a Little Tin Box that a little tin key unlocks,
there is honor and purity, lots of security, in a Little Tin Box.
JUDGE: Mister "Y," we've been told you don't feel well, and we know you've lost your
voice, but we wonder how you managed,

on the salary you make, to acquire a new Rolls Royce.
WITNESS: You're implying I'm a crook and I say no sir!
There is nothing in my past I care to hide.
I've been taking empty bottles to the grocer, and each nickel that I got was put aside
into a Little Tin Box, a Little Tin Box that a little tin key unlocks.
There is nothing unorthodox about a Little Tin Box.
In a Little Tin Box, a Little Tin Box there's a cushion for life's rude shocks.
There is faith, hope and charity, hard-won prosperity, in a Little Tin Box.
JUDGE: Mister "Z," you're a junior official, and your income's rather low
yet, you've kept a dozen women in the very best hotels.
Would you kindly explain, how so?
WITNESS: I can see Your Honor doesn't pull his punches and it looks a trifle fishy, I'll admit,
but for one whole week I went without my lunches and it mounted up, Your Honor, bit by bit.
It's just a Little Tin Box, a Little Tin Box that a little tin key unlocks.
There is nothing unorthodox about a Little Tin Box.
In a Little Tin Box, a Little Tin Box all a-glitter with blue-chip stocks,
there is something delectable, almost respectable, in a Little Tin Box!
anon

New York, NY

#57449 Oct 21, 2013
From 'The FreeDictionary' on line:

ill-gotten gains:
money or other possessions acquired in a dishonest or illegal fashion. Bill cheated at cards and is now living on his ill-gotten gains. Mary is enjoying her ill-gotten gains. She deceived an old lady into leaving her $5,000 in her will.

Three can keep a secret, if two of them are dead.
MsgrBadski

Riverside, CT

#57450 Oct 21, 2013
SJV/CTK closing? It looks like the diocese expects it to remain open. they're having an open house. what a waste. If this white elephant were closed., they coud save millions.
Dunkirk Connection

Dunkirk, NY

#57451 Oct 21, 2013
Anybody out there know anything about how a parish council is formed? Blessed Mary Angela Parish is having one for the first time. In the spring Fr. Nycz said members would be put on the council by a general vote of parishioners in the fall. Recently, he was canvassing for prospective council members and I threw my hat in the ring. After that, the rules changed and there is no longer going to be any vote by the parishioners. Any one who expressed an interest in being on the council was invited to an informational meeting tonight. Fr. Nycz called everyone this morning to remind them of the meeting. When he called me, I told him I could not make the meeting because I work evenings, but if I made it on the council I would work it out with my boss to make sure I could attend every meeting. He then informed me that I would not be on the council for the first year but after that things may change. My response was, "Am I the first to be eliminated or have there been others?" He didn't answer that. What sense did it make for him to be calling me to remind me of tonight's meeting when he had already made up his mind not to appoint me? Anyone ever heard of a parish council being formed strictly by pastoral appointment?
Mary of Magdala

Tonawanda, NY

#57452 Oct 21, 2013
Dunkirk Connection wrote:
Anybody out there know anything about how a parish council is formed? Blessed Mary Angela Parish is having one for the first time. In the spring Fr. Nycz said members would be put on the council by a general vote of parishioners in the fall. Recently, he was canvassing for prospective council members and I threw my hat in the ring. After that, the rules changed and there is no longer going to be any vote by the parishioners. Any one who expressed an interest in being on the council was invited to an informational meeting tonight. Fr. Nycz called everyone this morning to remind them of the meeting. When he called me, I told him I could not make the meeting because I work evenings, but if I made it on the council I would work it out with my boss to make sure I could attend every meeting. He then informed me that I would not be on the council for the first year but after that things may change. My response was, "Am I the first to be eliminated or have there been others?" He didn't answer that. What sense did it make for him to be calling me to remind me of tonight's meeting when he had already made up his mind not to appoint me? Anyone ever heard of a parish council being formed strictly by pastoral appointment?
The "Parish Council" serves at the pleasure of the pastor. In other words, they pick and then the council rubber stamps. I am surprised you did not know that. They have no real power. I always considered them sad because they thought they did. I am sorry dear.
Mary of Magdala

Tonawanda, NY

#57453 Oct 21, 2013
MsgrBadski wrote:
SJV/CTK closing? It looks like the diocese expects it to remain open. they're having an open house. what a waste. If this white elephant were closed., they coud save millions.
I know I am not as brilliant as you, however, they make money in that place. If I may be so rude, I told you so! LOL!
Dunkirk Connection

Dunkirk, NY

#57454 Oct 21, 2013
Mary of Magdala wrote:
<quoted text>
The "Parish Council" serves at the pleasure of the pastor. In other words, they pick and then the council rubber stamps. I am surprised you did not know that. They have no real power. I always considered them sad because they thought they did. I am sorry dear.
I've talked to people from different parishes who have a council. They all said the members were elected by the parishioners. I do agree about the rubber stamping though and I was mistaken to think the council would actually make any decisions on their own.

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