Buffalo Diocese Announces More Parish...

Buffalo Diocese Announces More Parish Closings Across WNY

There are 61250 comments on the WGRZ Buffalo story from Oct 14, 2007, titled Buffalo Diocese Announces More Parish Closings Across WNY. In it, WGRZ Buffalo reports that:

The Diocese of Buffalo's "Journey of Faith and Grace" has led to the closings of more parishes across Western New York.

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anon

New York, NY

#56254 Jul 4, 2013
Anonymous wrote:
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Art, did I hit a nerve? Hey, you can't blame the kid for getting spooked. You in his bed and naked........LOL!!!!!!!!!!
Mary, nobody would get that upset, unless you were Art himself......which you are!!!!!!!!!
It has been proven (substantiated) that that rumor regarding Fr. Art Smith is not true.
MsgrBadski

Selden, NY

#56255 Jul 4, 2013
anon wrote:
<quoted text>It has been proven (substantiated) that that rumor regarding Fr. Art Smith is not true.
Yes, there are several reasons to question the story. First these days guys ,including priests are a bit more uptight about male modesty, Years ago, you could walk around a locker rooom butt naked and go skinny dipping with other guys. That is not true any longer. If one of them was naked in bed or the other walking around in the buff, I am sure, just out of common sense, they would have covered themselves up. there might have been other guys there to demand that they do so. And there is, to the best of my knowledge any record of any disciplinary action being taken against either party. It doesn't prove, but tends to suggest that the incident never happened. I wasn't there, so I can't say with certainty, what did and did not happen.
MsgrBadski

Selden, NY

#56256 Jul 4, 2013
If a priest really needs "it" bad, there are websites where he can find "consolation", such as "Rentboy" or " Men4rentnow.com ". Better to go to those sites, rather than find one's name on "bishopaccountability. "
Art

Buffalo, NY

#56257 Jul 4, 2013
anon wrote:
<quoted text>It has been proven (substantiated) that that rumor regarding Fr. Art Smith is not true.
Art, you're making a fool out of yourself. This statement sounds stupid! And things have been substantiated about you......THAT IS WHY YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO BE A PASTOR AND ARE CONFINED TO NURSING HOME (OLD People) ministry.
Art

Buffalo, NY

#56258 Jul 4, 2013
MsgrBadski wrote:
<quoted text> Yes, there are several reasons to question the story. First these days guys ,including priests are a bit more uptight about male modesty, Years ago, you could walk around a locker rooom butt naked and go skinny dipping with other guys. That is not true any longer. If one of them was naked in bed or the other walking around in the buff, I am sure, just out of common sense, they would have covered themselves up. there might have been other guys there to demand that they do so. And there is, to the best of my knowledge any record of any disciplinary action being taken against either party. It doesn't prove, but tends to suggest that the incident never happened. I wasn't there, so I can't say with certainty, what did and did not happen.
Yes, Phil (Art's dual role), this makes sense. Next time someone wakes up and finds that someone naked got into their bed with them while they were sleeping....don't be alarmed or uptight.....your being overly sensitive because of male modesty.

This one goes down as a typical Art statement and a classic.
MsgrBadski

Selden, NY

#56259 Jul 5, 2013
Ryzard and Art were both cited as model priests on Szczesny's vocation site. If the allegations against Ryzard and Art were true, it is highly unlikely that they would have been cited as model priests. I know Father Szczesny is frustrated with his inability to attract new candidates for the ministry, but I don't think he is so desperate as to cite knowingly individuals that he would have to have known are less than moral.
Info

United States

#56260 Jul 5, 2013
Anonymous wrote:
<quoted text>
Garbage can? Same can that Mazur was assigned?
That is what Mazur deserved in the Falls! Good enough for him!
Info

United States

#56261 Jul 5, 2013
MsgrBadski wrote:
Ryzard and Art were both cited as model priests on Szczesny's vocation site. If the allegations against Ryzard and Art were true, it is highly unlikely that they would have been cited as model priests. I know Father Szczesny is frustrated with his inability to attract new candidates for the ministry, but I don't think he is so desperate as to cite knowingly individuals that he would have to have known are less than moral.
Learn how to spell his name as new secretary to the bishop. His name is spelled Ryszard, not Ryzard.
Info

United States

#56262 Jul 5, 2013
MsgrBadski wrote:
Ryzard and Art were both cited as model priests on Szczesny's vocation site. If the allegations against Ryzard and Art were true, it is highly unlikely that they would have been cited as model priests. I know Father Szczesny is frustrated with his inability to attract new candidates for the ministry, but I don't think he is so desperate as to cite knowingly individuals that he would have to have known are less than moral.
What about the 'peepshow moderator?'
Anonymous

Buffalo, NY

#56263 Jul 5, 2013
Info wrote:
<quoted text>What about the 'peepshow moderator?'
Nice try.......you know that the article was "before" the incident. Be honest now! But again, nice try!
makes sense

Buffalo, NY

#56264 Jul 5, 2013
MsgrBadski wrote:
<quoted text> Yes, there are several reasons to question the story. First these days guys ,including priests are a bit more uptight about male modesty, Years ago, you could walk around a locker rooom butt naked and go skinny dipping with other guys. That is not true any longer. If one of them was naked in bed or the other walking around in the buff, I am sure, just out of common sense, they would have covered themselves up. there might have been other guys there to demand that they do so. And there is, to the best of my knowledge any record of any disciplinary action being taken against either party. It doesn't prove, but tends to suggest that the incident never happened. I wasn't there, so I can't say with certainty, what did and did not happen.
I can see that it was a misunderstanding.

Scenario:

Ryszard gets a phone call from Poland....it's urgent.

Art takes the call, but finds Ryszard sleeping.

Art doesn't want to wake Ryszard as he knows he was exhausted from taking care of his hives.

Art is afraid Ryszard will wake up and head out to his bees and he might miss him to give him the message.

Eureka........Art thinks.....hey if I jump into his bed.....he'll see me and I won't miss him.

Art still worries that this might not catch his attention.......so he takes his clothes off to get his attention more.

All easy to believe......reasonable......a nd makes sense.
Orrrrrrrrr

Buffalo, NY

#56265 Jul 5, 2013
Art is a true priest.....

He is always thinking of others instead of himself...

A poor person came to the door.....

Art gave him the clothes off his back and other parts.....

Heading back up to his room, he gets a chill and become disoriented..........

He confuses his room and ends up in bed naked with Ryszard.

Ryszard misinterprets the whole thing... not knowing Art just gave his clothes to a poor person at the door.

Again, easy to believe and reasonable.
Orrrrrrrrr still

Buffalo, NY

#56266 Jul 5, 2013
Art is exhausted after a hard day of pastoring his people......

Art is in bed innocently sleeping......

Someone sneaks in to play an early April Fools joke on Art......

The person sneaks into Art's room...undresses him...and carries Art into Ryszards' room and places him in the bed.

Again, makes sense and you can see the mix up.
Anonymous

United States

#56267 Jul 5, 2013
For a summary of stories about the Vatican Bank, rea

http://ncronline.org/blogs/all-things-catholi... .
But...
How is it that nobody in this part of the Atlantic speaks about JC Morgan, the Bank of Italy and Credito Artigiano where the real problems started?
Holy Honey

Buffalo, NY

#56268 Jul 5, 2013
The cost of Ryszard's holy honey has just sky-rocketed. The soon-to-be Bishop's Secretary will now have Malone bless the bottles of honey, making them double holy. Malone expects a portion of the prophets.
Dunkirk Connection

Dunkirk, NY

#56269 Jul 5, 2013
What a shame JPII's thunder is being stolen by the impending canonization also of John XXIII. What contributions did he make other than to call the Second Vatican Council resulting in all those empty pews one has seen ever since. And for that he is a saint???? Oh Boze!
Mary of Magdela

Buffalo, NY

#56270 Jul 5, 2013
Art wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, Phil (Art's dual role), this makes sense. Next time someone wakes up and finds that someone naked got into their bed with them while they were sleeping....don't be alarmed or uptight.....your being overly sensitive because of male modesty.
This one goes down as a typical Art statement and a classic.
Good Lord.....now there are two of us? LOL! Me thinks this poor soul protests too much! Phil made the point that I could not. Ever been in a rectory? It is a fishbowl. NOTHING goes on that 5 people, at a minimum, know about.
Mary of Magdela

Buffalo, NY

#56271 Jul 5, 2013
MsgrBadski wrote:
Ryzard and Art were both cited as model priests on Szczesny's vocation site. If the allegations against Ryzard and Art were true, it is highly unlikely that they would have been cited as model priests. I know Father Szczesny is frustrated with his inability to attract new candidates for the ministry, but I don't think he is so desperate as to cite knowingly individuals that he would have to have known are less than moral.
Excellent post. I wonder who is so sfraid of Fr. that they must continue their nonsense?
Anonymous

United States

#56272 Jul 5, 2013
Dunkirk Connection wrote:
What a shame JPII's thunder is being stolen by the impending canonization also of John XXIII. What contributions did he make other than to call the Second Vatican Council resulting in all those empty pews one has seen ever since. And for that he is a saint???? Oh Boze!
The problem was not that John XXIII opened the doors to the world, but that some people took them off the hunges!
Mary of Magdela

Buffalo, NY

#56273 Jul 5, 2013
Why would Eddie Grosz spend 4 million dollars to renovate Saint Stanislaus? For goodness sakes, I have been there...it is a dump! JohnXXIII saved the church and Francis will bring it all home. The days of Fulton Sheen and the rest are gone. You can scream, but I am not sure anyone is listening. Certainly, not the kids!

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