Ohio lawmakers push to abolish death penalty

Dec 4, 2013 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: The Columbus Dispatch

Democratic Reps. Nickie J. Antonio of Lakewood and Dan Ramos of Lorain appeared Tuesday with representatives from the Catholic Conference of Ohio, Temple Israel, and St. John's Episcopal Church of Columbus, to back legislation to replace capital punishment with life without the possibility of parole.

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“Zuzu's Petals”

Since: Sep 10

Bedford Falls

#1 Dec 5, 2013
Good grief, they absolutely love abortions but are against the death penalty. Where in the world to these lunatics come from?

“Tenured Marxist Radical”

Since: Jan 13

Ivy League-ISIS

#2 Dec 5, 2013
This bill is proposed by the libs every session, and it goes nowhere.

Even most Democrats in this state favor capital punishment. No Cuyahoga County Prosecutor has ever abandoned it.

“Ludibrium est onus genio”

Since: Dec 11

Planet Earth

#3 Dec 5, 2013
I'm personally against it, for the sole reason that it may be mistakenly applied.

“Zuzu's Petals”

Since: Sep 10

Bedford Falls

#4 Dec 6, 2013
TonyD2 wrote:
I'm personally against it, for the sole reason that it may be mistakenly applied.
Too bad for the unborn child. Not likely a mistake would happen!
Reality Speaks

Columbus, OH

#5 Dec 6, 2013
TonyD2 wrote:
I'm personally against it, for the sole reason that it may be mistakenly applied.
I am with you there, but feel chain gangs should be normal behavior jails utilize.
Oliver Canterberry

Columbus, OH

#6 Dec 6, 2013
Zoe Regen wrote:
Good grief, they absolutely love abortions but are against the death penalty. Where in the world to these lunatics come from?
Liberals always reject the Genesis 9:9 mandate: He who sheds the blood of man, by man shall his blood be shed.

That is why so much blood is shed in the streets by SWAT teams, armed citizens and Black on Black violence. One way or another this mandate will always play out or as Jesus put it, "Those that live by the sword, die by the sword" Matthew 26:53.

“Ludibrium est onus genio”

Since: Dec 11

Planet Earth

#7 Dec 6, 2013
Reality Speaks wrote:
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I am with you there, but feel chain gangs should be normal behavior jails utilize.
The nice thing about other punishments is that you can somewhat take them back of it is discovered that the conviction was faulty.

“Ludibrium est onus genio”

Since: Dec 11

Planet Earth

#8 Dec 6, 2013
Oliver Canterberry wrote:
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Liberals always reject the Genesis 9:9 mandate: He who sheds the blood of man, by man shall his blood be shed.
That is why so much blood is shed in the streets by SWAT teams, armed citizens and Black on Black violence. One way or another this mandate will always play out or as Jesus put it, "Those that live by the sword, die by the sword" Matthew 26:53.
I certainly believe there are crimes that should garner the death penalty (in fact my list of crimes would be larger than the actual list). However, the possibility of false conviction prevents me from being comfortable with the implementation of that punishment. If someone is discovered to have been falsely convicted, you can somewhat undo that wrong by freeing them from prison and compensating them for their time spent there. You can't do that if they're dead.

The fact that so many seem to be willing to accept the possibility of executing a mistakenly convicted man is troubling to me.
Oliver Canterberry

Columbus, OH

#10 Dec 6, 2013
TonyD2 wrote:
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I certainly believe there are crimes that should garner the death penalty (in fact my list of crimes would be larger than the actual list). However, the possibility of false conviction prevents me from being comfortable with the implementation of that punishment. If someone is discovered to have been falsely convicted, you can somewhat undo that wrong by freeing them from prison and compensating them for their time spent there. You can't do that if they're dead.
The fact that so many seem to be willing to accept the possibility of executing a mistakenly convicted man is troubling to me.
I agree and disagree.

That will always be a very unlikely (remote) possibility. But the fact remains that many simply cannot be rehabilitated and death is the only solution for Charles Manson, Ted Bundy and all other clear killers.

“Ludibrium est onus genio”

Since: Dec 11

Planet Earth

#11 Dec 6, 2013
Oliver Canterberry wrote:
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I agree and disagree.
That will always be a very unlikely (remote) possibility. But the fact remains that many simply cannot be rehabilitated and death is the only solution for Charles Manson, Ted Bundy and all other clear killers.
They can be kept locked up for the remainder of their natural lives.
Duke for Mayor

Massillon, OH

#12 Dec 6, 2013
Oliver Canterberry wrote:
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I agree and disagree.
That will always be a very unlikely (remote) possibility. But the fact remains that many simply cannot be rehabilitated and death is the only solution for Charles Manson, Ted Bundy and all other clear killers.
It happens way more often than you are willing to acknowledge.

woof
Che Reagan Christ

Lodi, OH

#13 Dec 6, 2013
Oliver Canterberry wrote:
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I agree and disagree.
That will always be a very unlikely (remote) possibility. But the fact remains that many simply cannot be rehabilitated and death is the only solution for Charles Manson, Ted Bundy and all other clear killers.
When is the last time Charles Manson killed anybody?
They cannot kill a Spook

Detroit, MI

#14 Dec 6, 2013
TonyD2 wrote:
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They can be kept locked up for the remainder of their natural lives.
Why should we.feed them for 50 years plus?

Take those two parasites the State.trooper gave a ride to the TA at I70 and 42, why should they get anything but a good strong rope around their necks?

“Ludibrium est onus genio”

Since: Dec 11

Planet Earth

#15 Dec 6, 2013
They cannot kill a Spook wrote:
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Why should we.feed them for 50 years plus?
Take those two parasites the State.trooper gave a ride to the TA at I70 and 42, why should they get anything but a good strong rope around their necks?
What do you do the day after the execution, when it's discovered a mistake was made?

“Bee Hive Jive”

Since: Apr 10

Location hidden

#16 Dec 6, 2013
Actually it costs more to put someone to death than it costs for a life sentence.

Whenever possible, DNA tests should be given to all life sentences and death sentences decisions.
Depending on evidence available.
They cannot kill a Spook

Detroit, MI

#17 Dec 6, 2013
TonyD2 wrote:
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What do you do the day after the execution, when it's discovered a mistake was made?
So those vermin didn't shoot a man just filling up his tank? The video was faked?

I would do the same as the bombers did that decimated Dresen did during WWII. I would have a good meal and some peaceful sleep and carry on as usual.
They cannot kill a Spook

Detroit, MI

#18 Dec 6, 2013
BizzyBee wrote:
Actually it costs more to put someone to death than it costs for a life sentence.
Whenever possible, DNA tests should be given to all life sentences and death sentences decisions.
Depending on evidence available.
That is because of all the unnecessary appeals and the extra cost of housing and guarding them so they don't kill another inmate, guard or themselves.
sidekick

Columbus, OH

#19 Dec 6, 2013
At least the CPD has wiped some of them off before ever going to court. Good job Columbus Police.

“Bee Hive Jive”

Since: Apr 10

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#20 Dec 6, 2013
They cannot kill a Spook wrote:
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That is because of all the unnecessary appeals and the extra cost of housing and guarding them so they don't kill another inmate, guard or themselves.
That certainly makes sense. There should only be a certain amout of appeals allowed. It's ridiculous how tax payers money is spent on convicts.

“Ludibrium est onus genio”

Since: Dec 11

Planet Earth

#21 Dec 6, 2013
BizzyBee wrote:
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That certainly makes sense. There should only be a certain amout of appeals allowed.
I wonder if you'd feel that way if you were wrongly convicted and waiting on death row. It HAS happened, you know...

http://www.innocenceproject.org/Content/Injus...
It's ridiculous how tax payers money is spent on convicts.
It's (an attempt) to make sure they got it right (the conviction). You DO want them to get it right, don't you?

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