Tuesday's Letters to the Editor

Tuesday's Letters to the Editor

There are 14 comments on the Long Beach Press-Telegram story from Mar 9, 2009, titled Tuesday's Letters to the Editor. In it, Long Beach Press-Telegram reports that:

How can members of Congress, who have the best health care in America, oppose universal health care for all Americans? I am 64 and retired.

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Cindy

Huntington Beach, CA

#4 Mar 10, 2009
I agree with Thelma and I really like Charles Krauthammer, he is a very bright man.
Dodger

Los Angeles, CA

#5 Mar 10, 2009
Cindy wrote:
I agree with Thelma and I really like Charles Krauthammer, he is a very bright man.
Charles Krauthammer is an imperialist, pro-preemptive war, right wing agenda pusher. If he was such a "bright man", why was he so vocal about attacking Iraq? It goes back to his right wing belief in the "spread of democracy" outside of our borders by means of force.

Can you explain why you agree with Thelmas letter. Do you not believe that having a legitimate health care program for everyone, "green" infrastructure projects/jobs, and better education for America's youth will help with job creation and technological progression in a much more affordable and healthy society? These issues may not have been the underlying cause of the financial collapse, but they are a very new and very directed response to the current situation. If you and Thelma do not agree with that, then I would suggest that you provide some better solutions. But you won't...because you don't have any. dittohead
SteveV

Rancho Palos Verdes, CA

#6 Mar 10, 2009
Congressional hypocrites

How can members of Congress, who have the best health care in America, oppose universal health care for all Americans? I am 64 and retired. I have private insurance that costs $1,050 per month. That's 90 percent of my retirement income.

We need to start doing battle with the insurance industry, the real source of the problem. It has the political process by the short hairs. Many Democrats fear it. The GOP is simply its bitch. No CA Republican has ever voted for a universal health care system. Otherewise we'd have one right now (SB 840).
Cindy

Huntington Beach, CA

#7 Mar 10, 2009
Dodger wrote:
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Charles Krauthammer is an imperialist, pro-preemptive war, right wing agenda pusher. If he was such a "bright man", why was he so vocal about attacking Iraq? It goes back to his right wing belief in the "spread of democracy" outside of our borders by means of force.
Can you explain why you agree with Thelmas letter. Do you not believe that having a legitimate health care program for everyone, "green" infrastructure projects/jobs, and better education for America's youth will help with job creation and technological progression in a much more affordable and healthy society? These issues may not have been the underlying cause of the financial collapse, but they are a very new and very directed response to the current situation. If you and Thelma do not agree with that, then I would suggest that you provide some better solutions. But you won't...because you don't have any. dittohead
I think that Thelma is correct in her statemnt that "Obama's sense of crisis bordering on panic is intellectually dishonest to the core". I do not think his plans the plans he has put out are the cure to our current problems. I also think that Krauthammer is one of the brightest people out there. He is correct and dead on most of the time. I do not think that the government owes us health care, an education, or a home. These are not rights these are things that you obtain by working for them, not just have the government give them to you. It is not the government's place to give us these things. People who think that the government should supply these items are wrong. These items are not what has put us in this situation, the people in Washington have put us in this bind and they are not to smart enought to get us out. That includes your boy Obama. All this spending is not going to help us all it is going to do is break us, and then we will be weak and at that point we will be one step closer to a new world government. Obama is the new Manchurian Canidate
Constitution Party

Long Beach, CA

#8 Mar 10, 2009
We currently have medicare and medicaid that provides health care to seniors and the less fortunate in the country. These programs run at a huge deficit, while serving only a portion of our citizens. How can health care for everyone be funded? This is not a vote against universal care, but a question as to how it is to be funded. There are plenty of Americans that can easily afford to pay and would rather do so they have the freedom to choose regarding their care - should they be forced to get health care for free? Questions to be considered before issuing a blanket statement that universal coverage is good for all.
Orange

Long Beach, CA

#9 Mar 10, 2009
The Orange Twist installed on Atlantic Avenue in my opinion doesn't add anything to the area.

The money could be spent on improvements to the area.
Cindy

Huntington Beach, CA

#11 Mar 10, 2009
We need to fix the economy first before we start worrying about health care and the rest of these social issues that Obama has his focus on. It is the economy that is killing the everyday person out there. People are more worried about having a job and a income as compared to health care right this minute. These jobs he says he will make they are not going to be enought for a person to live on. Just like the jobs that Clinton made, with his you had to work two or three of them to make enough money to live. These guys are just giving people false hope.
Chuck

Phoenix, AZ

#13 Mar 10, 2009
RE: Big Bang Agenda

Thelma - why did Bush keep giving money to the corporations and companies on Wall St? He enhanced the supply side of the equation but never the demand sides.

Now that Obama is trying to stimulate demand, people call it socialism? So what exactly is it when Bush gave money directly to companies to be paid as bonuses?
Word Watcher

AOL

#14 Mar 10, 2009
re: Time for compassion

"For years Wall Street bankers, hedge fund managers and everyone else in the financial sector have been getting rich while we regular folks have seen our wages stagnate while prices rise. When this financial mess is behind us, bankers should have a better perspective about what an average person's struggle is like, and show more compassion."

Brian Jones

What a country this would be if our government, banking system, corporations and even mom and pop shops had "compassion" as their operating goal. Not even the Salvation Army operates their thrift stores on the theory of compassion. In a capitalist society "profit" is the name of the game. Works well if some reins are put on the greed factor.
Dodger

Los Angeles, CA

#15 Mar 10, 2009
Cindy wrote:
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I think that Thelma is correct in her statemnt that "Obama's sense of crisis bordering on panic is intellectually dishonest to the core". I do not think his plans the plans he has put out are the cure to our current problems. I also think that Krauthammer is one of the brightest people out there. He is correct and dead on most of the time. I do not think that the government owes us health care, an education, or a home. These are not rights these are things that you obtain by working for them, not just have the government give them to you. It is not the government's place to give us these things. People who think that the government should supply these items are wrong. These items are not what has put us in this situation, the people in Washington have put us in this bind and they are not to smart enought to get us out. That includes your boy Obama. All this spending is not going to help us all it is going to do is break us, and then we will be weak and at that point we will be one step closer to a new world government. Obama is the new Manchurian Canidate
First I will start with Charles Krauthammer. Krauthammer is an extremely intelligent person that represents the neo-conservative agenda. On numerous occasions he has made reference to the Community Reinvestment Act (CRA) being the cause of the financial mess due to sub prime loans being given to people who should not have qualified. This is false. Aproximately 80 percent of the subprime loans issued in the major metropolitan areas, were issued by financial institutions that aren't even governed by the CRA. Here is another false claim of his about Obama's stimulus package: "hundreds of billions that have nothing to do with stimulus, that Congress's own budget office says won't be spent until 2011 and beyond,". Funny how he quotes the Congressional Budget Office but doesn't include this by Doug Elmendorf (director of CBO-congressional testimony) "[I]n our estimation -- and I think the estimation of most economists -- all of the increase in government spending and all of the reduction in tax revenue provides some stimulative effect. People are put to work, receive income, spend that on something else. That puts somebody else to work." He also repeated the falsehood that a rail line was going to be constructed from L.A. to Las Vegas using stimulus dollars. This was not mentioned anywhere in the stimulus bill yet he parroted this falsity because of his political agenda.

In regards to your assertion that his plans are not the proper remedy to our current economic situation, i will ask you to please provide your ideas as to what should be done. You seem to consistantly opine on topics without providing any ideas that seem to be your own. What do you think would be a better solution to the problem? I believe that health care reform (the reform part indicates that things will be streamlined to cut back on costs and make health care more affordable by giving people more options) would drastically decrease the premiums for those of us who already have healthcare (because health insurance companies wouldn't feel the need to raise premiums because of people not being able to afford their payments), make health insurance more affordable for those who don't have insurance by means of competitive bidding and the option for a Medicare type program, and provide additional jobs for the tech industry because the dated medical records systems will need updating. Education reform (both a revamping of pay scales/performance based pay and the educational infrastructure) will not only provide additional jobs, but will draw more teachers to the field which in turns provides for better learning environments and a smarter younger generation. Afterall, how can people claim to be concerned about the debt we are leaving our future generations if our future generations will be too dumb to even realize it?
Cindy

Huntington Beach, CA

#16 Mar 10, 2009
Dodger wrote:
<quoted text>
First I will start with Charles Krauthammer. Krauthammer is an extremely intelligent person that represents the neo-conservative agenda. On numerous occasions he has made reference to the Community Reinvestment Act (CRA) being the cause of the financial mess due to sub prime loans being given to people who should not have qualified. This is false. Aproximately 80 percent of the subprime loans issued in the major metropolitan areas, were issued by financial institutions that aren't even governed by the CRA. Here is another false claim of his about Obama's stimulus package: "hundreds of billions that have nothing to do with stimulus, that Congress's own budget office says won't be spent until 2011 and beyond,". Funny how he quotes the Congressional Budget Office but doesn't include this by Doug Elmendorf (director of CBO-congressional testimony) "[I]n our estimation -- and I think the estimation of most economists -- all of the increase in government spending and all of the reduction in tax revenue provides some stimulative effect. People are put to work, receive income, spend that on something else. That puts somebody else to work." He also repeated the falsehood that a rail line was going to be constructed from L.A. to Las Vegas using stimulus dollars. This was not mentioned anywhere in the stimulus bill yet he parroted this falsity because of his political agenda.
In regards to your assertion that his plans are not the proper remedy to our current economic situation, i will ask you to please provide your ideas as to what should be done. You seem to consistantly opine on topics without providing any ideas that seem to be your own. What do you think would be a better solution to the problem? I believe that health care reform (the reform part indicates that things will be streamlined to cut back on costs and make health care more affordable by giving people more options) would drastically decrease the premiums for those of us who already have healthcare (because health insurance companies wouldn't feel the need to raise premiums because of people not being able to afford their payments), make health insurance more affordable for those who don't have insurance by means of competitive bidding and the option for a Medicare type program, and provide additional jobs for the tech industry because the dated medical records systems will need updating. Education reform (both a revamping of pay scales/performance based pay and the educational infrastructure) will not only provide additional jobs, but will draw more teachers to the field which in turns provides for better learning environments and a smarter younger generation. Afterall, how can people claim to be concerned about the debt we are leaving our future generations if our future generations will be too dumb to even realize it?
Your post is great and what you said is well done. I just do not think that at this time we need to be focusing on the economy, not all these other programs and ideas. If the economy gets any worse there are going to be alot of people out of work and unable to pay their bills and feed their families. We can not afford to wait for Obama's plans to kick in. I personnally know of at least 5 families that have lost their jobs and they are having a hard time of it. There are not alot of jobs out there either. So would you suggest that these people wait for these jobs that Obama is going to create and if they do how do they feed their families til then? My point being we do not have time to wait for some of these plans to kick in the people in Washington should be doing something to shore up the economy so that these employers will start making profits so that they can rehire the employees that they had to let go.
Lakewooddad

Long Beach, CA

#17 Mar 10, 2009
Wendy,
Distributing and solicitation, two different things. I am aware that the only solicitation they do is offer a free Bible. I could be wrong. My daughter goes to Lakewood, saw what you mentioned, and did not get a Bible.(we have Bibles already). As a parent and educator, surely you are aware of what other soliciatations they face every day. You're worred about a free Bible if they want one? Yea, its in front of a school, and it might not seem like the best seperation of "Church and State", but come on.
SteveV

Rancho Palos Verdes, CA

#18 Mar 10, 2009
What a country this would be if our government, banking system, corporations and even mom and pop shops had "compassion" as their operating goal. Not even the Salvation Army operates their thrift stores on the theory of compassion. In a capitalist society "profit" is the name of the game. Works well if some reins are put on the greed factor.

What a fantastic job banking sytems, the insurance industry and corporations have done when their goal WAS profit!!
Dodger

Los Angeles, CA

#19 Mar 11, 2009
Cindy wrote:
<quoted text>
Your post is great and what you said is well done. I just do not think that at this time we need to be focusing on the economy, not all these other programs and ideas. If the economy gets any worse there are going to be alot of people out of work and unable to pay their bills and feed their families. We can not afford to wait for Obama's plans to kick in. I personnally know of at least 5 families that have lost their jobs and they are having a hard time of it. There are not alot of jobs out there either. So would you suggest that these people wait for these jobs that Obama is going to create and if they do how do they feed their families til then? My point being we do not have time to wait for some of these plans to kick in the people in Washington should be doing something to shore up the economy so that these employers will start making profits so that they can rehire the employees that they had to let go.
thanks for the kind reply. I also wanted to respond to this statement from one of your posts: "I do not think that the government owes us health care, an education, or a home" So, how do you respond to the majority of the elderly who are provided Medicare by the government? How do you respond to the handicapped and physically challenged that get government health care/help? Do you like the fact that there are over 47 million uninsured Americans? You can't claim that all of those people aren't hardworking individuals that just can't afford the premiums. After all, the number of uninsured households making more than 75K rose by 1.3 million in 2006. These are working families. The pre-amble to the Declaration of Independence states that "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable Rights, that among these are LIFE, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness." How do you explain the "life" part of that quote? I would venture a guess that those without health insurance face far greater health risks from common diseases that could have been diagnosed earlier had they been afforded the right to preventative care. what about the preamble to the Constitution "We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, ensure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general WELFARE, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America" What do you think they meant by "welfare"? If you don’t believe that the government can multitask, and shouldn’t be responsible for the things I listed above, then why do you think they should be responsible for creating jobs for the 5 families that you know? My point is that I have noticed that people that tend to be for “less government” only feel that way when they aren’t requiring the government’s help. Once they need the help, they coming running with their hands out.

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