Gun lobby dinner sparks outrage

March 19, 2009 08:42 AM - A Conservative MP from Saskatchewan is coming under fire for his starring role at a gun lobby dinner in Mississauga next month where the raffle prize is a Beretta semi-automatic handgun.

[Boomer215]

Outrage, so what. There's always some pencil neck getting outraged about something. Were we to live our lives so as not to outrage anyone, we wouldn't be able to take a dump.
Tell them to bugger off.

[alan]

the hate for gunowners is so OBVIOUS here in this story and it IS PREJUDICE PLAIN AND SIMPLE... "get out of my body" to quote feminists and liberals in general... you cannot have it both ways... criminals will ALWAYS use violence to get what they want... the hatres of guns is "INFANTILE" according to a famous Dr. canada is FAMOUS for the BEHEADING AND CANNABILISM OF a young man on a BUS while it was traveling across country... no one did anything to HELP OR STOP the CRIME...

[Bubbletoes]

The idiot quoted below is among the bunch of guns haters who just don't get it. IT IS NOT THE LAWABIDING CITIZEN WHO IS PERPETRATING "GUN VIOLANCE". IT IS CRIMINALS!
His constituents would be better-served by: championing legislation that would restore the rights of the citizen and pursuing methods to thwart crime and incarcerate repeat offenders for longer terms. The job of elected officials is to implement the wishes of the broader base of their constituency while preserving the letter and spirit of the Constitution. No more, no less. Also, a firearm is a tool and a commodity; it's just a thing. Its value is in the eye of the beholder. I for-one would be pleased to win something I may not be able to buy for myself due to shortage of funds; THAT is what makes this an excellent prize for the intended audience.
Knitting needles can be very dangerous too. Should we outlaw them from the knitting guild prize party?
Different Strokes.......

"We have got to be finding ways to get (handguns) off the streets, not handing them out as prizes," Liberal MP Mark Holland (Ajax-Pickering) said yesterday. "It really is an insult to a community that has seen so much gun violence and where so many people have been killed ... to give that away as a (raffle) prize."

[Zzznorch]

I can see their point only in the fact that it would be equivalent to Planned Parenthood having a pro abortion rights rally in Clearwater, FL (or any other extremely conservative area) and giving free abortions to all comers. You have to pick your audience.

However, this is Canada we are talking about and there is no specific right to keep and bear arms like the U.S. 2nd Amendment. Yes, it is implied under British tradition but there is nothing concrete you can point to.

[Rusty]

The far left continues to try and register and remove all firearms from Canada - even after a 2 billion dollar failure. There are more real people up there than there is farleft politicians - it's time they take back their country. Perhaps we could make a new country with just California and Quebec - then we can loan them money at a great interest rate.

[Boomer215]

Zzznorch wrote:

I can see their point only in the fact that it would be equivalent to Planned Parenthood having a pro abortion rights rally in Clearwater, FL (or any other extremely conservative area) and giving free abortions to all comers. You have to pick your audience.
However, this is Canada we are talking about and there is no specific right to keep and bear arms like the U.S. 2nd Amendment. Yes, it is implied under British tradition but there is nothing concrete you can point to.

Our 2nd Amendment doesn't grant us the right.

If the citizen of Canada are a free people they possess that right.
Government can only infringe upon it by force. What the citizens of Canada lack is a constitutional protection that restrains the power of government, specifically prohibiting it from infringing.

To look at it any other way is to presume that a free people must beg government for permission to exercise their right, which in effect turns a right into a privilege.

[CRB]

That shows the Gun Control maniacs can't handle free speech or events where they have a handgun as a prize given to a law abiding citizen who jumps through hoops just to own a firearm.

[CRB]

Rusty wrote:

The far left continues to try and register and remove all firearms from Canada - even after a 2 billion dollar failure. There are more real people up there than there is farleft politicians - it's time they take back their country. Perhaps we could make a new country with just California and Quebec - then we can loan them money at a great interest rate.

Sometimes I just think both of them need to be fenced off and closed to the rest of their countries

[GPM]

Stupid people have stupid fears. Consider the source and react appropriately.

Besides, it is only a Beretta. It should have been a Para-Ordinance P14-45. They'd be supporting a Canadian company.

[NOPT]

"When it was introduced in 1995, the gun registry was supposed to cost $2 million but has ballooned to about $2 billion, giving critics more than enough ammunition to call for the program to be scrapped."

Hmmmmm?

Yea, the NY bullet registry has been costing them about a million a year for a decade, but yet they have not solved a single crime with it.

[BobbySomers]

NOPT wrote:

"When it was introduced in 1995, the gun registry was supposed to cost $2 million but has ballooned to about $2 billion, giving critics more than enough ammunition to call for the program to be scrapped."
Hmmmmm?
Yea, the NY bullet registry has been costing them about a million a year for a decade, but yet they have not solved a single crime with it.

New York has a bullet registry?
You sure you don't mean gun registry?

[GPM]

If you bought a new firearm in the last decade, you should have received a fired case in a sealed bag. If you lived in one of the Socialist Hells, the FFL would have sent the sealed envelope to the police for them to keep for potential matching against crime scene cases.

Yeah, it is called a bullet registry. No crime has ever been solved by one of these registries.

[Rusty]

GPM - the secret is to find "the loophole", then if you shoot somebody, they don't know.

[BobbySomers]

GPM wrote:

If you bought a new firearm in the last decade, you should have received a fired case in a sealed bag. If you lived in one of the Socialist Hells, the FFL would have sent the sealed envelope to the police for them to keep for potential matching against crime scene cases.
Yeah, it is called a bullet registry. No crime has ever been solved by one of these registries.

Ok, I get ya. thouth you were talking about the bullet serial number ideas currently being floated in washington.

[Seen It Before]

BobbySomers wrote:

<quoted text>New York has a bullet registry?
You sure you don't mean gun registry?

Yes in New York they send a fired case and bullet to the New York State Police Laboratory. I think too many people watch CSI & think that all crime can be solved in an hour television show. Canadians are severely restricted in firearms ownership but that does not stop their criminals either.

[jmac]

Boomer215 wrote:

Outrage, so what. There's always some pencil neck getting outraged about something. Were we to live our lives so as not to outrage anyone, we wouldn't be able to take a dump.
Tell them to bugger off.

amen brother amen

[But I love you]

Free speech and association for all except those who offend us on the left. That is the position they take while crying for tolerance. Too bad their pea brains cannot see the hypocrisy.

[Highlander]

Oh! Well, let's see here:

Selected quotes, and my responses:
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"We have got to be finding ways to get (handguns) off the streets, not handing them out as prizes," Liberal MP Mark Holland (Ajax-Pickering) said yesterday. "It really is an insult to a community that has seen so much gun violence and where so many people have been killed ... to give that away as a (raffle) prize."
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So, according to the dickweed from Ajax-Pickering, a raffle gun is going to be used in a crime?

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"The raffle has left others in disbelief, including an official at Montreal's Dawson College, where a gunman carrying a Beretta semi-automatic carbine opened fire on Sept. 13, 2006, killing one student and wounding 13 others."
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Of course, left unsaid is just this: Canadian firearms laws were so strict, that it was almost impossible for any of the victims to have possessed any kind of arm to defend themselves, not unlike the victims at Virginia Tech.

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NDP Leader Jack Layton (Toronto-Danforth) said he could not believe that any group would be so "callous" as to give away a handgun in the GTA, which has been plagued with gun problems.
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Well, let's see here: The idiots blame inanimate objects for criminal acts. Got that?

DO TAKE NOTE: Nothing is said about the GENESIS of the reasons for said criminal acts — THE LAWS.

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Last year, there were more than 60 gun-related deaths in the GTA. Mississauga and Peel Region both experienced a record number of homicides, many involving handguns.
"It's the kind of thing you expect to hear south of the border ... the fact you could pick one up in a raffle prize sends exactly the wrong message," Layton said.
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South of which border?

And of course —OF COURSE— Canadian life is just so saintly, eh?

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The Canadian Association of Chiefs of Police, which supports the long-gun registry, said Breitkreuz's bill, up for second reading vote on April 22, "would seriously compromise" public safety.
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Well, actually no, that is NOT the truth at all!

Truth be told, the CACP is a political organization which is looking out for their own benefit. And anyway, if the registry goes away, then there goes a lot of jobs and lots of political clout.

THINK: JOB SECURITY.

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When it was introduced in 1995, the gun registry was supposed to cost $2 million but has ballooned to about $2 billion, giving critics more than enough ammunition to call for the program to be scrapped.
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And there you have it: MONEY! MONEY! MONEY! MONEY! MONEY!

Somebody's bailiwick is GOING TO GO AWAY!!!!

[NOPT]

BobbySomers wrote:

<quoted text>New York has a bullet registry?

You sure you don't mean gun registry?

No, I don't. Besides, even New York police know the difference between a bullet and a gun. A bullet one of four components of a metalic firearms cartridge and guns are those pointy things on ships that they use to shoot other ships with or those devices that puffed wheat is shot from.

http://www.vaughnmonroesociety.org/resume/ADq...

[paul shykora arts]

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