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Jason Kenney Office Causes Uproar in Azeri Community

There are 20 comments on the www.today.az story from Mar 9, 2011, titled Jason Kenney Office Causes Uproar in Azeri Community. In it, www.today.az reports that:

Who issued a Canadian visa to the Armenian separatist: tracking a visit

09 March 2011 [11:03], Today.az

The so-called "Foreign Minister" of the illegal regime in Nagorno-Karabakh, Georgy Petrossyan visited Canada between 17-24 February, 2011. Although no officials received Petrossyan, the fact that he was issued a Canadian visa has caused uproar amongst the Azerbaijani community in Canada.

Indeed, many community members are well aware how difficult it is to get a Canadian visa. Citizens of Canada cannot be reunited with their loved ones living overseas for years, but in this case a representative of an illegal regime easily receives a visa.Members of the Azerbaijani community have sent an open letter to Prime Minister Mr. Harper (the text of the letter can be found at (http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/protest-canadian-govt/) with a demand to give a clear answer: Who invited Petrossyan to Canada, by what circumstances was he granted a visa and etc? How can it be that British MP George Galloway was denied entry into Canada and at the same time Petrossyan was allowed into its territory?

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Haroun

Scarborough, Canada

#1 Mar 10, 2011
For one to sneak into Canada has to break some rules. If teh individual is cought at the entry point or later tracked, he then is subjected to the law of the land controling its entry points.
Where were the Azery customs officers at when
Mr. Chitilyan entered Azerbaijan if he was tracked why did they not deport him?
jerry tutunjian

Toronto, Canada

#2 Mar 10, 2011
The "uproar" in the so-called Azeri community is hot air pumped up with falsehood. Concluding in their uninformed and opportunistic minds that the Harper Government and Jason Kenney are vulnerable on the probably eve of federal elections, the Azeris and their masters--the Turkis Embassy--are warning, in their usual incompetent way, the Harper Government.
Because of lack of space, I will address a bare handful of the lies and misdirections in the Azeri news release.
1. Nagorno-Karapagh's Foreign Minister Georgy Petrossian did not meet any Canadian politician while visiting the country. Prior to his visit here, he toured the US and met high-profile Congressmen. Right now he is in Europe where he is meeting EU leaders. In the past he has had frequent contacts with OSCE officials.
2. The news release sheds crocodile tears that it is "difficult" for many foreigners to get a Canadian visa while Mr. Petrossian was quickly granted a visa. This is a transparent and light-fingered exercise. It's "difficult" to get immigrant visa to Canada. Mr. Petrossian came here on a tourist visa. A whole different kettle of fish. Incidentally, how do the Azeris know that the tourist visa was obtained easily?
3. The comparison with George Galloway is also misleading. Galloway is a firebrand and is considered a provocateur by many people. Mr. Petrossian was visiting Armenian communities here. No fire and brimstone speeches from him.
4. The Azeris claim that the "ruling |Conservative Government" is openly pro-Armenian. On what basis is the claim made? Why is it "pro-Armenian"? Because the Government recognizes the historic truth that Turkey committed genocide against its Christian Armenian minority. Incidentally, Canada is not the only jurisdiction which recognizes the Genocide of Armenians. Scores or countries, not to mention historians, scholars, journalists recognize the extermination of Armenians as genocide plain and simple.
5. "Jason Kenney, well-known advocate of the interests of the Armenian community," says the Azeri flight of fancy. Where's the evidence?
6. Despite the Azeri news release, Agop Evereklian doesn't work in Mr. Kenney's office, and MP Jim Karragyannis is not of Greek-Armenian descent. He is of Greek descent.
7. If the Azeri concoction is to be believed, part of the reason Canada lost the election at the UN Security Council is because Canada recognized the Genocide of Armenians. Apparently, there's no limit to Azeri inanity and clumsy cunning.
8. Harout Chitilian of Montreal visited Nagorno-Karapagh, an integral and historic part of Armenia which was given to Azerbaijan by Stalin, to appease
Azeris' cousins--Turkey. During the 70 years of Azeri occupation, Armenians were discriminated, persecuted, and finally subjected to pogroms. Stalin also gave them another part of Armenia--Nakichevan. That once-Armenian province is devoid of a single Armenian, thanks to genocidal Azeris.
9. The news release makes a big production that the Harper Government is courting the so-called ethnics. Stop the presses! Pray tell which political party doesn't do so?
10. As in the past, the Azeris are playing Charlie McCarthy to puppet-player Turkey. Otherwise, why would Azeris question the Genocide of Armenians?

It would unfair and unrealistic to expect that TOPICS or any other Canadian media know about the tormented history of Armenians at the hands of Turks and Azeris. Suffice to say two things:
The new release is part of the Turkish-Azeri propaganda skirmish, to keep Armenians off-balance. What matters is the big picture: Turkey and Azerbaijan want to create a continuous Turkic land bridge from Istanbul to the Chinese border. They see Armenia/Nagorno-Karapagh as blocking this racist, imperial ambition. If you make note of this crucial fact, you will get a clearer picture of Ankara's and Baku's efforts to denigrate Armenia, Nagorno-Karapagh, Canadian-Armenians, and, in fact, Armenians everywhere.
Dr Arshavir Gundjian

Saint-jérôme, Canada

#3 Mar 10, 2011
It has been a well recognized fact that the advent of Internet is an enormous progress for humanity thanks to the ability it created to propagate useful information around the world quickly and efficiently. It is also recognized that unfortunately this new and efficient tool allows to propagate just as quickly,efficiently and uncontrollably any trash generated by any unsrupulous person or group.
Sometime it becomes a difficult task to separate the good from trash.
The above article coming from some azerbaydjani source falls exactly in the category of such knowingly generated and misleading trash.
To give one example of the false information generated in that article let it be known that close to 20 countries, France being one of them have officially recognized the fact of the Genocide, many of them well before Canada.
Furthermore scores of personalities holding official functions of the western world do visit freely Karabagh as part of their visit to Armenia. Azerbaydjanis should realize and get used to the fact that Karabagh was for centuries and is now a genuine Armenian homeland.
We are proud to be citizens of Canada who traditionally stands tall among countries who are not afraid to speak up for justice.
Ottawaot

Ottawa, Canada

#4 Mar 10, 2011
First of all, Nagorno-Karabakh is a part of Azerbaijan, and recognized as a part of Azerbaijan by the UN, all countries, including Canada. So, visa issued to Petrossyan is wrong doing. Because he was, most probably, with a passport of another country - Armenia, which once again proves that Armenia is occupying power.
Secondly, Jason Kenney is recognized as Armenian man of year 2008. He openly sided with the Armenian cause and community which Minister, responsible for multiculturalism should not do.
Thirdly, a number of Canadian newspaper - Globe and Mail, National Post, are actually published op-eds of well-known journalists such as Jeffrey Simpson, who acknowledge that Harper government is indeed pro-Armenian. Of course, these individuals, according to Armenian propaganda, are "Turkish agents". Whenever, Armenians see or hear that someone question the affiliation of Nagorno-Karabakh or validity of so-called genocide claim, they go on attack, unable to conduct intelligent dispute.
As for technicalities - Agop Evereklian did work for Kenney, as some other Armenian staffers, one of which (Kasra Nejatian) resigned recently over a scandal related to chasing ethnic votes. perhaps, the commentator above (jerry tutunjian) is aware that Kenney is under massive fire due to misconduct.
And last, not least, imperial ambitions is indeed we now can witness in Armenia, which occupied the part of land of another state (Azerbaijan) and claim a part of other states (Turkey, definitely) and even Georgia
Concerned Canadia

Alexandria, VA

#5 Mar 10, 2011
It's disgusting how any ethnic community, such as the Armenians, would bring their enmities, fights and hates to our land, Canada, and try to stir problems here, too. Dudes, you obviously failed in your homeland, and left for a better life -- so why do all this? In America, not a months goes by that yet another Armenian gang is busted. And here at home, Armenians are constantly the center of scandals, too. Stop this, enough is enough!
jerry tutunjian

Toronto, Canada

#6 Mar 10, 2011
I notice Ottawaot failed to address most of the points I raised while the ones he/she addressed were fumbled, like the Azeri news release.

Current Armenia is 20% of historic Armenia. Most of Armenian lands are occupied by Turkey, and some--like Nakhichevan--by Azeris, the Turkic cousins of Turkey.

In the past 90 years these two Turkic people (originally from Central Asia) have willfully tried to destroy every trace of Armenians from historic Armenia, turning Armenian churches to taverns, stables and brothels, using Armenian historic buildings for army target shooting, and even shattering medieval Armenian gravestones into smithereens.

As a political entity, Azerbaijan is a recent fabrication. The "country" was created by Russia when Moscow sliced away part of northern Persia and named it Azerbaijan. Thanks to a pact between Stalin and Ataturk, two regions of Armenia (Nagorno-Karapagh and Nakhichevan) were forcibly attached to Azerbaijan, although the populations (naturally) of both regions were overwhelmingly Armenian.

The Republic of Armenia has at no time indicated any interest in lands which are part of Georgia.
Ottawoat is fishing in murky waters.
MTLer

Montréal, Canada

#7 Mar 10, 2011
The author of the article is shocked that Canadian-Armenians are doing everything to help Armenia and Karabakh.

Before being filled with negative feelings, he should ask himself a simple question: "why are there so many Armenians in Canada - and in many western countries as well - and they constantly want to help their homeland?" ... the idea that they were kicked out from their land by force doesn't even cross his mind!

Why aren't the Italians, Irish, Mexicans, etc, so involved in helping out their respective countries of origin? Their countries are not facing an existential threat or the prospect of being annihilated like Armenia is.

As for the Montreal city councilor, he goes wherever he wants, whenever he wants, and however he wants, because he feels like it! He doesn't owe explanations to Azerbaijan, just as he doesn't owe explanations to Burkina Faso! He is a Canadian who feels like visiting that part of the world for X reason and since Azerbaijan doesn't allow that, he went through Armenia ... nothing wrong with that in my view!

aztoronto

Canada

#8 Mar 10, 2011
Modern independent Armenia is creation of russian empire. This land was overwhelmingly populated by Azeri turks. Erevan, capital of armenia was populated mainly by Azeris before russians settled armenians there. But this is history. All these proud armenians commenting here should ask a question - why armenian population shrunk from 3,,2 mln to 2,5. Why armenians leaving armenia, and still continue their reckless fight in Canada.
As for Chitilian, he is elected to represent all canadians, including Azeris and Armenians. By siding with one ethnic group he just shows his genuine agenda.
Mihran Durgerian

Sainte-thérèse, Canada

#9 Mar 10, 2011
Dr.Gundjian adequately explains Turkish/Azery efforts to missinform the world regarding issue related to Armenia and the Armenian nation i.e.The Genocide...the Garabagh even the true identity of the Armenian nation...and the wearabout of our homeland...fortunately the major powers of our world know better....
Dr Arshavir Gundjian wrote:
It has been a well recognized fact that the advent of Internet is an enormous progress for humanity thanks to the ability it created to propagate useful information around the world quickly and efficiently. It is also recognized that unfortunately this new and efficient tool allows to propagate just as quickly,efficiently and uncontrollably any trash generated by any unsrupulous person or group.
Sometime it becomes a difficult task to separate the good from trash.
The above article coming from some azerbaydjani source falls exactly in the category of such knowingly generated and misleading trash.
To give one example of the false information generated in that article let it be known that close to 20 countries, France being one of them have officially recognized the fact of the Genocide, many of them well before Canada.
Furthermore scores of personalities holding official functions of the western world do visit freely Karabagh as part of their visit to Armenia. Azerbaydjanis should realize and get used to the fact that Karabagh was for centuries and is now a genuine Armenian homeland.
We are proud to be citizens of Canada who traditionally stands tall among countries who are not afraid to speak up for justice.
Lavallois

Montréal, Canada

#10 Mar 10, 2011
Man there's some people trolling here. User Aztoronto is actually from Ottawa according to topix.com website, and the user ConcernedCanadian is really from somewhere in the the United States! LOL

I must say that the Azerbaijani complaints are groundless. It is certainly not the Azerbaijanis, who ethnically cleansed their country from Armenians, that should tell Canadians how to behave...
Ottawaot

Ottawa, Canada

#11 Mar 11, 2011
Excellent point about shrinking Armenian population in Armenia!!!- Armenia for past 20 years lost almost one million people. Who committed that "genocide"? Turks? Azeris? Answer is No, Armenians themselves. Actually it is a criminal regime, including former warlords from Karabakh, who rules the country and poison people's mind and breed nationalists. Armenians indeed cleansed Azerbaijanis from Armenia, then from Nagorno-Karabakh, and exterminating themselves in their homeland. I invite Canadian Armenians go back to homeland and support their cause there, not spread hatred in Canada.
jerry tutunjian

Toronto, Canada

#12 Mar 11, 2011
Ottawaot,
Your version of Armenian political affairs echoes Col. Gaddafi's delusional take on why Libyans simply adore Brother Moammar.

Armenia's population is declining because of Turkey's and Azerbaijan's genocidal economic blockade of the Republic of Armenia. Yet you have the nerve to blame Armenians for the declining population of the country. What gall!

As someone who obviously dreams of the disappearance of Armenia, you should know that we have been in Armenia for at least since 2,250 B.C., according to Akkadian inscriptions. And we we plan to stay in our homeland forever. You and your ilk were Central Asian marauders who, in the Middle Ages, invaded Armenia and the Middle East, laying waste wherever you moved. You not only killed and pillaged, you also destroyed indigenous civilizations or appropriated what remained as your own. However, I have to concede that you did invent the diabetes-inducing Turkish Delight.

So Yerevan, Armenia's capital was founded be you.
What are you smoking? Is that stuff which you import to Azerbaijan from Afghanistan? Yerevan, then called Yerepouni, was founded in the 7th century B.C. Look it up in any history book not published by your pretend-Sultan Aliyev.

Canadian-Armenians have been loyal and productive citizens in their new home. In fact, considering their small number, they have made tremendous and disproportionate contributions to Canada. The combined Turkish/Azeri community of Canada hasn't contributed one-hundredth of what Canadian-Armenians have. In fact, I can't name a single prominent Turkish/Azeri in Canada.

Re your solicitous advice to Canadian-Armenians to move to Armenia, I will make a solemn promise to you. We would return to Armenia, to Artsakh, and to liberated Nakhichevan a day after you drive your mules back to your Gobi Desert homeland.
ELIAS KATUDJIAN

São Paulo, Brazil

#13 Mar 12, 2011
Estou impressionado com o "lobby" exercido pelos azeris e canadenses pro-azeris que, na esteira do falacioso texto do artigo "encomendado", atiram a torto e a direito, principalmente contra os armênios do Canadá! Os comentários que acabo de ler, acima, feitos por supostos canadenes, são espantosos. Quanto ódio dirigido aos armênios daí! Neles, não vejo um mínimo de verdade, apenas "nonsenses" ! Aqui no Brasil temos uma expressão que retrata bem essas atitudes: Trata-se de "missa encomendada". Portanto, como disse um patrício armênio, em sua mensagem, o destino de todos esses escritos mentirosos é o lixo !
Ottawaot

Canada

#14 Mar 12, 2011
jerry tutunjian, remain civil. You are not at Theatre square in Yerevan. Your comments smell with racist and Nazi flavour, and in Canada hatred speech is a crime. So, it is worth to report you to police and track your IP. However, I think it is better if your comments remain here so as people see what ideology behind Armenian expansionism.
Now about your "historical" comments. You are right, Azeris and Turks came from central Asia. They have created many magnificent cultures and civilizations, which were admired even by Armenian chroniclers and scholars. Canadians (except Aboriginals) also came to this land quite recently. According to your style of thinking, Canadians has no right to live here because they are newcomers. Funny thing that despite your assertion that Armenians lived in Armenia for 2500 years, mainstream academia believes Armenians are also migrants in the Caucasus. Even Armenian Foreign Ministry says that Armenians moved in 6 c. BC (see http://www.armeniaforeignministry.com/arm/ind... ) LOL, matah. Or maybe they are also "Turkish agent". And the whole Armenian leadership is also Turkish agent, because Armenian population is indeed shrinking, despite Armenia have occupied the part of another state.
As for blockade - it is well known that Armenia has outlet to Iran and sell even weapons to Iran (see Wikileaks cables).
As for Canadians Armenians vs. Azeri-Turks. Yes, I agree that there are many decent Armenians in Canada and they made and make good contributions to this country. I even like Armenian basturma (unlike your hatred to Turkish Delight, which, according to you causes diabetes). Coming to Azeri-Turkish contribution, they are relatively new in this country. But perhaps you should now that few days ago the president of the most prestigious university in Canada - Waterloo became a man with Azeri-Turkish heritage.
It is too unfortunate that you remain engulfed with Nazi style ideology in Canada. Perhaps, indeed, you should go back and "fight" for Hye Tad before the whole population will move out there.
Tado

London, Canada

#15 Mar 12, 2011
wow so many historians here....
what is the issue? Petrosyan entered Canada? so what? Armenians are making headways internationally in the recognition of the Armenian Genocide; is that it? Armenians took back what is rightfully there lands from the Azeris; is that it? you have a bone to pick with Harper; is that it?
Deal with it people. Armenians are not going away.
jerry tutunjian

Toronto, Canada

#16 Mar 13, 2011
Ottawaot,
You not only lie about your location (as another writer pointed out] but you also lie about your identity. Your style clearly indicates group writing. Are you Turkbeijanis who get together over raki to conflate this pile of nonsense? What are you afraid of? Why don't you sign your name, the way I am signing my name? Are you an agent of the Turkbeijan government?

Name calling and threats will get you nowhere in Canada. This is not Erdogan's Turkey or Baby Aliyev's Sumgait. Your email reminds me of Mary McCarthy's classic comment about playwright Lillian Hellman: "Every word is a lie, including 'and' and 'the.'

Unlike Canadians, who don't deny that the country
originally belonged to the Natives, and support financially and in many other ways the original inhabitants of this great land, Turks and later their junior cousins, the Azeris, for millennia tried to exterminate Armenians, occupied/occupy the majority of historic Armenian land, deny that there were even Armenians in historic Armenia, and are now threatening a final genocide of Armenia through economic boycott and war. Still unhappy with your efforts, you and your Turkbeijan friends are now trying [read your letter]to drag Georgia into your crimes by suggesting that Armenia has designs on that country. Georgians are wise enough to decipher the transparent lie.

Back to square one. Everything you said here and every decision Turkbeijan government makes re Armenia are designed to exterminate Armenians of Armenia and wipe the country from the map thus Istanbul to Irkutsk becomes a monochrome, racially 'pure' Turkic entity. Dream away, Ottawoat or whatever your names are.

Since your letters repeat the same lies and are circular in logic, I don't see the point in educating you. Unless you write something new and truthful, I will ignore your grade B propaganda efforts.
Ottawaot

Waterloo, Canada

#17 Mar 13, 2011
You can't dispute. Every your word is insult, like all armenian proganda. You need my real name - ah! Armenian gang groups and terrorists are well known. Catch me if you can
Caitlyn

Ottawa, Canada

#18 Nov 4, 2011
According to you nothing wrong with anything that only supports your point of view. it is ok if they visit Armenia, Nagorno-Karabakh, attend all brain washed Armenian genocide events but it is wrong if they attend an event that does not support your cause. it is ok when you pressure the city councilors, mayors, members of federal and provincial parliaments not to attend those events. How hypocrite is that!!

PURELYCANADIAN

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#19 Nov 9, 2012
I really wish all you immigrants would just shut the hell up and leave your problems back in the shitholes you came from. Far too many of you use the safety and sanctuary that Canada offers to launch your political fights, based on your old wounds. I'm sick and tired of this garbage! Furthermore, why should it be Canada's problem too???

“Be aware, be impartial”

Since: Mar 09

Ottawa

#20 Feb 23, 2013
You are probably right. Then ask the current government what Canada to do with so called Armenian genocide of 1915 which it recognized based on the ethnic lobby pressure. Why the current and other governments pursues ethnic agenda of nationalists in diasporas rather than working towards reconciliation. Ask this question from Jason Kenny - champion of chasing ethnic votes

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