Buffalo Diocese Announces More Parish Closings Across WNY

The Diocese of Buffalo's "Journey of Faith and Grace" has led to the closings of more parishes across Western New York. Full Story
Reality

Buffalo, NY

#57268 Sep 23, 2013
REALLY wrote:
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Of all the problems in this diocese and all the people that are hurting from past decisions, the Bishop has time to discuss this
on television. What percentage of the Catholic population is gay and what percentage of the Catholic population is having abortions?
They can decide to leave the church and find salvation somewhere else. I don't see any Bishop being concerned about all the people that they have alienated by closing their parishes. What are they doing to get them back.
More parishes should be closed in Batavia, Buffalo, Dunkirk,Lackawanna, Niagara Falls, and elsewhere.
Reality

Buffalo, NY

#57269 Sep 23, 2013
MsgrBadski wrote:
Some bishops are due to be appointed on Tuesday.
Are you going to be one of them?
Reality

Buffalo, NY

#57270 Sep 23, 2013
The bishops and priests should not talk about contraceptives, abortion, and homosexuality. What is left for them to talk about during Sunday sermons?Sports?Games?Vacations ? Summer houses? Or what?
Anonymous

Buffalo, NY

#57271 Sep 23, 2013
Reality wrote:
<quoted text>More parishes should be closed in Batavia, Buffalo, Dunkirk,Lackawanna, Niagara Falls, and elsewhere.
Which parishes should be left in NF?
MsgrBadski

West Milford, NJ

#57272 Sep 23, 2013
Reality wrote:
<quoted text>Are you going to be one of them?
No. but actually I know a Fransiscan friar, who is really a bishop "in pectore". He was secretly consecrated in Rome and sent to Ukraine to assist in episcopal ordinations during the Cold War era. His status will probably be revealed at his death.
Mary of Magdela

Buffalo, NY

#57273 Sep 23, 2013
REALLY wrote:
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Of all the problems in this diocese and all the people that are hurting from past decisions, the Bishop has time to discuss this
on television. What percentage of the Catholic population is gay and what percentage of the Catholic population is having abortions?
They can decide to leave the church and find salvation somewhere else. I don't see any Bishop being concerned about all the people that they have alienated by closing their parishes. What are they doing to get them back.
I believe the Pope is quite concerned with the problems you mentioned above. You made valid points.
Back to Basics

Buffalo, NY

#57274 Sep 23, 2013
Reality wrote:
The bishops and priests should not talk about contraceptives, abortion, and homosexuality. What is left for them to talk about during Sunday sermons?Sports?Games?Vacations ? Summer houses? Or what?
They can begin with the commandments and the scriptures and how to try to live them. Leave the disturbed people to the babble of psychotherapists. Most of us do not want to be lied to and treated like fools by the representatives of Christ. The priest is not a substitute for a shrink and the church is not a social services agency.
MsgrBadski

West Milford, NJ

#57275 Sep 23, 2013
Back to Basics wrote:
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They can begin with the commandments and the scriptures and how to try to live them. Leave the disturbed people to the babble of psychotherapists. Most of us do not want to be lied to and treated like fools by the representatives of Christ. The priest is not a substitute for a shrink and the church is not a social services agency.
Priests and other non-professionals, who try to act as psychiatrists do more harm than good.
Back to Basics

Buffalo, NY

#57276 Sep 23, 2013
Anonymous wrote:
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Which parishes should be left in NF?
Close them all and have a chapel in the Casino so the priests don't have to travel too far to say mass, eat, drink, save souls and save money on gas and tolls. All under one roof.
Closures

Tonawanda, NY

#57277 Sep 23, 2013
Meetings were held last week at the chancery for pastors with schools and all school principals. All schools will be either merged or closed with the big announcement in January. The proposed model is that all schools must have 600 students to be profitable. Let the good times roll.
ANON

Buffalo, NY

#57278 Sep 23, 2013
SAVE ST. ANN so her GRANDSON will save us
Mary of Magdela

Buffalo, NY

#57279 Sep 23, 2013
Closures wrote:
Meetings were held last week at the chancery for pastors with schools and all school principals. All schools will be either merged or closed with the big announcement in January. The proposed model is that all schools must have 600 students to be profitable. Let the good times roll.
They will have to build new schools. I do not know of one school that could hold that many in South Buffalo. No parent is going to pay a fortune for 35 kids in a class. That is the idea of private education.
Anonymous

United States

#57280 Sep 23, 2013
ANON wrote:
SAVE ST. ANN so her GRANDSON will save us
Not a waste of money. In the morning of July 14, 1902, the steeple of St. Mark in Venice collapsed. It stood for almost 1,000 years. That same evening, the city council approved the funding for its immediate reconstruction. Today the steeple is an integral part of the most beautiful square in the world. In the old days, one of its five bells rang the opening of the session of the Senate and another that of the City Council. Thatís when religion and state worked together to create and maintain beautiful works of art.
Anonymous

Buffalo, NY

#57281 Sep 23, 2013
Closures wrote:
Meetings were held last week at the chancery for pastors with schools and all school principals. All schools will be either merged or closed with the big announcement in January. The proposed model is that all schools must have 600 students to be profitable. Let the good times roll.
Not many schools will be able to accommodate 600 students!
Mary of Magdela

Buffalo, NY

#57282 Sep 23, 2013
OK! I stand corrected, Thank God! Notre Dame was used on the news tonight as an example of a school that will be fine. I am sorry for everyone else but my grandkids go there and it makes me happy.
Anonymous

Buffalo, NY

#57283 Sep 23, 2013
Anonymous wrote:
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Not a waste of money. In the morning of July 14, 1902, the steeple of St. Mark in Venice collapsed. It stood for almost 1,000 years. That same evening, the city council approved the funding for its immediate reconstruction. Today the steeple is an integral part of the most beautiful square in the world. In the old days, one of its five bells rang the opening of the session of the Senate and another that of the City Council. Thatís when religion and state worked together to create and maintain beautiful works of art.
The Bishop is missing a real opportunity to stand with his people. He could be a real leader and a real hero. All you have to do as a leader is to encourage people to believe in THEMSELVES
not in you. Anybody out there listening?
anonymous

Buffalo, NY

#57284 Sep 23, 2013
Anonymous wrote:
<quoted text>
Not a waste of money. In the morning of July 14, 1902, the steeple of St. Mark in Venice collapsed. It stood for almost 1,000 years. That same evening, the city council approved the funding for its immediate reconstruction. Today the steeple is an integral part of the most beautiful square in the world. In the old days, one of its five bells rang the opening of the session of the Senate and another that of the City Council. Thatís when religion and state worked together to create and maintain beautiful works of art.
Yeah, well this ain't Italy! The Government also pays the Priest's salaries there since it is an officially Catholic country. That's the only way the churches stay open, because they are funded by the government as part of the tourist industry. We don't have that here.
Sorry Mary

Buffalo, NY

#57285 Sep 23, 2013
Mary of Magdela wrote:
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So sorry to interfere in your mindless rants about cottages, pools, and relics. Perhaps world events are too much for you.
I guess you have me confused with another since I have never written about cottages, pools or relics for that matter. Sounds like maybe you got confused while in your own "mindless rant."
MsgrBadski

West Milford, NJ

#57286 Sep 23, 2013
Francis ! is naming a co-adjutor archbishop for Newark tomorrow. Supposedly it is Bishop Hebda from Gaylord.(Jim Holtz, brother of Cheektowaga town supervisor, Mary Holtz, was once a priest in this diocese, until he was removed under terms of the Dallas charter.)
Anonymous

United States

#57287 Sep 23, 2013
anonymous wrote:
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Yeah, well this ain't Italy! The Government also pays the Priest's salaries there since it is an officially Catholic country. That's the only way the churches stay open, because they are funded by the government as part of the tourist industry. We don't have that here.
When the St. Markís steeple was rebuilt in 1902, Italian Catholics did not participate in the Government which was run by anticlericals and masons. Today, there is no state religion in Italy. People pay a 8/1000 cult tax administered by the Bishopsí conference unless they designate the Government for civil services in Italy ior abroad. Only pastors receive a small salary from the Giovernment in restitution for the properties confiscated by the Kingdom of Italy to the Papal States. There is no public funding for private schools. Since 1929, there is a working relation between Church and State regulated by several agreements for the social and cultural contribution of the Catholic Church and other religions to society.

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