'We live by actions'

Jul 15, 2013 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: The Labradorian

Joel Therrien and Mark Vandenberg are two of the volunteers helping construct a new Jehovah's Witness Kingdom Hall in Happy Valley-Goose Bay.

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True Christian witness wrote:
Narrow minded bigots are like the poor,
Since most Jehovah's witnesses are poor, with many taking public aid, are you admitting your cult is based on hate and bigotry??
Thank you, you are correct
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Aug 13, 2013
 
True Christian witness wrote:
Narrow minded bigots are like the poor, they will always be in this world, but not in the new one soon to be here.

Now is the time to start your personal Bible study with Jehovah's witnesses, so you can make an educated decision whether to live in a righteous new earth or not.

This world is passing away and so is every person who is not in Jehovah's protection, some people just can't obey Jehovah's requirements, they love their life more than God's will.
1John 2:15
"Do not be loving either the world or the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him; because everything in the world—the desire of the flesh and the desire of the eyes and the showy display of one’s means of life—does not originate with the Father, but originates with the world. Furthermore, the world is passing away[paragō] and so is its desire, but he that does the will of God remains forever." 1 John 2:15-17

In context Paul didn't purpose for his words to be condemnatory towards others but rather he was expressing they were becoming successful when he said "the world is passing away" meaning the world is passing away to the successful person of God the father.
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This world will pass away from existence, it will soon be gone and also every ungodly person, anyone not loving Jehovah God and his righteousness.
2Peter 3:7 and verses 11-13
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this statement itself we live by actions, shows the judge mentalism inherent in the witness organization. while they traverse heaven and earth for a convert, build places of worship, and an army of volunteers Prince propaganda that ultimately ends up having to be changed. others are bringing the good news of Jesus Christ to the world not for the edification of a megalomaniac corporation but for the glory of God. the watchtower organization uses very little of it assets to help anyone in the world including their own brothers and sisters with practical needs. they are basically like the faults brother and neighbor that Jesus talk about that says keep warm and well fed while not lifting a finger to truly help them.
jesus said and Mark chapter 6 those that teach opinions of man as doctrine invalidate the Word of God and worship the Father in vain. many of their opinions have caused the deaths murders imprisonment rate and tortures of their followers. these are just from the things they forbade in the past and are now Konshens matters according to them thus proving they were doing exactly and are doing exactly what Jesus said, teaching opinions of men as doctrine.
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Aug 14, 2013
 
1 Peter is not in direct relation to 1 John 2:15 nor the immediate context. In 1 john he clearly distinguishes between those who are immediate family members and those who originate with the world but not for the purpose of leading these family members away from their accomplishments but rather to recognize their accomplishments. Espically when he says, "the world is passing away and so is it's desires" meaning continued success on their part.(they pass these things up) And he certianly wasn't even alluding to a destruction of people, places and things as Peter's teaching expected would occur during his lifetime and didn't lead to disappointment.

Now this is condemnatory language at 2Peter 3:14-17 where he gives advanced knowledge unlearned or ignorant ones would twist or pervert the scriptures.

"Hence, beloved ones, since YOU are awaiting these things, do YOUR utmost to be found finally by him spotless and unblemished and in peace. Furthermore, consider the patience* of our Lord as salvation, just as our beloved brother Paul according to the wisdom given him also wrote YOU, speaking about these things as he does also in all [his] letters. In them, however, are some things hard to understand, which the untaught and unsteady are twisting, as [they do] also the rest of the Scriptures, to their own destruction. YOU, therefore, beloved ones, having this advance knowledge, be on YOUR guard that YOU may not be led away with them by the error of the law-defying people and fall from YOUR own steadfastness. No, but go on growing in the undeserved kindness and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To him [be] the glory both now and to the day of eternity."

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True Christian witness wrote:
This world will pass away from existence, it will soon be gone and also every ungodly person, anyone not loving Jehovah God and his righteousness.
2Peter 3:7 and verses 11-13
How do we get his "righteousness" ?
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Ptme wrote:
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How do we get his "righteousness" ?
By reading the Bible and by reading the literature published by Jehovah's witnesses, because this very important information is based on the teachings of Jesus, who is the head of the world wide united religion of Jehovah's witnesses, and no other religion is acceptable to our heavenly Father Jehovah God. John 17:3
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True Christian witness wrote:
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By reading the Bible and by reading the literature published by Jehovah's witnesses, because this very important information is based on the teachings of Jesus, who is the head of the world wide united religion of Jehovah's witnesses, and no other religion is acceptable to our heavenly Father Jehovah God. John 17:3
Your organisation must not be very informed because according to Romans 5:17, righteousness is a gift !
God's abundant provision of grace and of the ***gift of righteousness****reign in life through the one man, Jesus Christ!

Where does it show in the Bible what you describe in your comment as God's righteousness ?
I shown you the apostle Paul's description in the Bible, very clear and precise !

Shalom :)
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I guess "True Christian witness" can't find a scripture to back up his arrogant statement.:)

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True Christian witness wrote:
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By reading the Bible and by reading the literature published by Jehovah's witnesses, because this very important information is based on the teachings of Jesus, who is the head of the world wide united religion of Jehovah's witnesses, and no other religion is acceptable to our heavenly Father Jehovah God. John 17:3
Can you prove this from the bible?

“I luv Jesus ”

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How do we get his "righteousness" ?
By being His sheep.

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True Christian witness wrote:
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By reading the Bible and by reading the literature published by Jehovah's witnesses, because this very important information is based on the teachings of Jesus, who is the head of the world wide united religion of Jehovah's witnesses, and no other religion is acceptable to our heavenly Father Jehovah God. John 17:3
you forgot the most important part. APPLYING Christs principles in our life, that is what is important.

Are you saying that because someone believes in the trinity or cross but lives their lives in harmony with the principles Christ taught are not acceptable, but a JW is because they believe differntly, not all JW are Christians that is for sure.
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I guess "True Christian witness" can't find a scripture to back up his arrogant statement.:)
It is not arrogance to state the truth, to someone who is teaching an untruth. John 8:32

You misapply Scripture to suit you and your understanding of the Bible, that is normal human nature, and to believe the Bible was written to you as you read it. The fact is, the Bible was written to people who were suppose to love Almighty God Jehovah, they were dedicated to Jehovah, that means they were to live and die for Jehovah God, as Christians following the teachings of Jesus the faithful witness. 1Peter 2:21

Romans 5 does not apply to people today, that Scripture was to show God's righteousness was bestowed on the anointed of God, those spirit begotten or born again sons of God. That small group that would make up the bride of Christ to rule with Jesus in heaven.
Revelation 5:8-10
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why is it not posible to entertain the idea, looking at the world we live in and the Mess it is in and say without asking unaswerable questions about who made the world and us.
That in all probabilty "There is no God" very frightning to some and just because we have a need to belive something don;t make it so,
Look where all this blind faith has got us
21st century and a stone age religion
ifs all myth and nonsense, and most people know it!
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True Christian witness wrote:
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It is not arrogance to state the truth, to someone who is teaching an untruth. John 8:32
You misapply Scripture to suit you and your understanding of the Bible, that is normal human nature, and to believe the Bible was written to you as you read it. The fact is, the Bible was written to people who were suppose to love Almighty God Jehovah, they were dedicated to Jehovah, that means they were to live and die for Jehovah God, as Christians following the teachings of Jesus the faithful witness. 1Peter 2:21
Romans 5 does not apply to people today, that Scripture was to show God's righteousness was bestowed on the anointed of God, those spirit begotten or born again sons of God. That small group that would make up the bride of Christ to rule with Jesus in heaven.
Revelation 5:8-10
First of all you thank you for stated the truth that the WBTS teaches that Romans 5: 8-10 does NOT apply to all people today.
YOUR WORDS as follows:
*****"Romans 5 does NOT apply to people today, that Scripture was to show God's righteousness was bestowed on the anointed of God, those spirit begotten or born again sons of God. That small group that would make up the bride""******
Your organisation teaches error and denies the basic truth about the righteousness that come from what Christ' s death and resurrection has achieved for mankind. This teaching is Anti-Christ, against what Christ has done for mankind.

Second, you never showed from scripture how "YOUR RIGHTEOUSNESS" is achieved as taught by the WBTS. You can believe what you want and the WBTS can teach what they want, however, it's obvious to everyone that it's NOT based on the Bible and NOT Christian.
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Show from scripture that Romans 5:8-10 does NOT apply to people today !!!!!!!!!

You have just hung yourselves in front of anyone who knows scripture and read your post !

How can you discuss truth in scripture when you don't believe what it clearly teaches and make statements that are NOT in the Bible ?

1 thessalonians 5:21
21 But test and prove all things, what is good; [to that] hold fast.
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By being His sheep.
bah bah ;)

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True Christian witness wrote:
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It is not arrogance to state the truth, to someone who is teaching an untruth. John 8:32
You misapply Scripture to suit you and your understanding of the Bible, that is normal human nature, and to believe the Bible was written to you as you read it. The fact is, the Bible was written to people who were suppose to love Almighty God Jehovah, they were dedicated to Jehovah, that means they were to live and die for Jehovah God, as Christians following the teachings of Jesus the faithful witness. 1Peter 2:21
Romans 5 does not apply to people today, that Scripture was to show God's righteousness was bestowed on the anointed of God, those spirit begotten or born again sons of God. That small group that would make up the bride of Christ to rule with Jesus in heaven.
Revelation 5:8-10
It is arrogance when you cant prove it from the bible which you have been ask time and time to do. When you are going to realize that if its not biblical, its not true?
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It is arrogance when you cant prove it from the bible which you have been ask time and time to do. When you are going to realize that if its not biblical, its not true?
ROMANS APPLIES TO US HERE s scriptures from Romans and ones that support it is for today
For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly.
But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.
9 Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.

10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.

Above is FROM THE BOOK OF ROMANS

Jesus came and died for us all not just a select few

John 3:36
36 “He who believes in the Son has eternal life; but he who does not obey the Son will not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him.”

2 Corinthians 5:21
21 He made Him who knew no sin to be sin on our behalf, so that we might become the righteousness of God in Him.

John 3:16 - For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

Romans 10:13 - For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
WHOSOEVER IS ANYONE THAT WILL BELIEVE
John 20:31 - But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.
Acts 2:21 - And it shall come to pass,[that] whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved.
John 1:12 - But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God,[even] to them that believe on his name:
WHOSOEVER still means WHOSOEVER .

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John 3:16 saved my life. That word WHOSOEVER flashed in front of my face like a red exit sign. WHOSOEVER means ALL of the ones who BELIEVE IN JESUS, it does not mean, but only if you are a JW.

Acts2:21 says WHOSOEVER shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved, it doesn't say, but you have to be a JW or a Baptist etc. to be saved.

Romans 10:13 WHOSOEVER shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. Again it doesn't say but you must be a JW or any other religion. It is if we truly Believe in the LORD! IF we are to become sons of God, then we must believe in his name.

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