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Joel Therrien and Mark Vandenberg are two of the volunteers helping construct a new Jehovah's Witness Kingdom Hall in Happy Valley-Goose Bay.

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cult expert

Arlington Heights, IL

#23 Jul 31, 2013
Remnant143999 wrote:
Any new kingdom halls being built in Mexico? If not why not?
What happened did some elders get caught molesting children again in mexico?
True Christian witness

Bartlesville, OK

#24 Jul 31, 2013
The people on this thread who obey Jesus, will have Jehovah God's approval, Jehovah God wants everyone who loves life to live in his new world of righteousness.

To be an obedient subject of Jesus ruling in heaven today, you must be educated in the Law of Christ as taught by Jehovah's witnesses, this is the warning message that God's Kingdom government wants preached today, only the meek and obedient people will survive Armageddon.

Isaiah 48:17,18

Anyone who isolates himself from Jehovah God's provision for life, will not succeed.
Psalms 1:1-3
FutureMan

Brisbane, Australia

#25 Jul 31, 2013
True Christian witness wrote:
The people on this thread who obey Jesus, will have Jehovah God's approval, Jehovah God wants everyone who loves life to live in his new world of righteousness.
To be an obedient subject of Jesus ruling in heaven today, you must be educated in the Law of Christ as taught by Jehovah's witnesses, this is the warning message that God's Kingdom government wants preached today, only the meek and obedient people will survive Armageddon.
Isaiah 48:17,18
Anyone who isolates himself from Jehovah God's provision for life, will not succeed.
Psalms 1:1-3
Actually this is God's provision here of which I will quote just below.

John 6
35 Jesus said to them, I am the Bread of life; the one coming to Me will not at all hunger, and the one believing into Me will not ever thirst.
36 But I said to you that you also have seen Me and did not believe.
37 All that the Father gives to Me shall come to Me, and the one coming to Me I will in no way cast out.
38 For I have come down out of Heaven, not that I should do My will, but the will of Him who sent Me.
39 And this is the will of the Father sending Me, that of all that He has given Me, I shall not lose any of it, but shall raise it up in the last day.
40 And this is the will of the One sending Me, that everyone seeing the Son and believing into Him should have everlasting life; and I will raise him up at the last day.

This is what I believe as is written in the preceding scriptures.

Since: Nov 09

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#26 Jul 31, 2013
True Christian witness wrote:
A person can make himself believe anything, the human brain has the capabilities to thoroughly deceive the heart. Jeremiah 17:9
The Bible says, not to deceive yourself to make your conscience invalid by teachings of men over God's word.
Ephesians 5:6
Anyone who turns his back on the truth of Scriptures as taught by Jehovah's witnesses today, has made the decision to return to Satan's world, and will pass away with it at Armageddon.
1John 2:15
But you see TCW, it is not the truth of the scriptures you are being taught, it is truth of the GB aka F&DS aka MEN that you are being taught and told you MUST believe.

I have never turned my back on truth in scriptures of the bible, but I did turn my back on MEN. Show me where the bible says I am wrong for doing that. Even the GB aka F&DS wrote an article about examining your beliefs and if you find them wrong, find the true beliefs. But what they forgot to add is, If you are a JW, you CANT do this.

Ask yourself, have you ever been able to disagree with a teaching put forward by the GB aka F&DS? Would you even try to do it? We all know the answer is NO because you would be immediately taken to the study and be told that YOU MUST BELIEVE THE GB AKA F&DS because they are speaking for God himself. Read all of the following words from the GB aka F&DS and tell me they are not promoting themselves as Christ himself.

''The Faithful Slave is the channel through which Jesus is feeding his true followers at this time of the end. It is vital that we recognize the Faithful Slave. Our spiritual health and our relationship with God depend on this channel. Matt 4:4; John 17:3.
Watchtower July 15, 2013, page 20, paragraph
The other sheep should never forget that their salvation depends on their active support of Christ’s anointed brothers still on earth.
Watchtower March 15, 2012, page 20, paragraph 2.
Through the new covenant, Jehovah makes blessings available to many by means of a few. Those in the covenant are few, 144,000 Through them,(FDS class, now the Governing Body), millions from all nations will be blessed with everlasting life on an earthly paradise……
Watchtower March 1st, 2012, page 17, section 3.
We need to obey the Faithful and Discreet Slave to have Jehovah’s approval.
Watchtower July 15, 2011, page 24.
Among those “gifts in men” are the members of the Governing Body, who act in a representative way for the entire Christian congregation,(Acts 15: 2, 6). In fact, our attitude towards Christ’s spiritual brothers is a major factor that will determine how we will be judged in the coming great tribulation,(Matt 25:34-40). Thus one aspect of the way we gain a blessing is by giving our loyal support to God’s anointed ones.
Watchtower December 15, 2010, page 20, paragrap19.
The anointed and their other sheep companions recognize that by following the lead of the modern-day Governing Body, they are in fact following their leader Christ.
Watchtower September 15, 2010, page 23, paragraph 8.
The Governing Body publishes spiritually encouraging literature in many languages. This spiritual food is based on God’s Word. Thus, what is taught is not from men but from Jehovah – Isa 54:13w
Watchtower September 15, 2010, page 13, paragraph 8.
We cannot hope to acquire a good relationship with Jehovah if we ignore those whom Jesus has appointed to care for his belongings. Without the assistance of the “faithful and discreet slave”(now an 8 man Governing Body), we would neither understand the full import of what we read in God’s Word nor know how to apply it.(Matt 24:45-47).
Watchtower September 15, 2010. page 8, paragraph 7.

REMEMBER TCW, without the GB aka F&DS you cant be saved, you cant learn a thing, and I guess that means, without them, you are just dead meat. Sad that you cant read the bible and see where it says...

Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

He is THE WAY, not A WAY.

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#27 Jul 31, 2013
True Christian witness wrote:
The people on this thread who obey Jesus, will have Jehovah God's approval, Jehovah God wants everyone who loves life to live in his new world of righteousness.
To be an obedient subject of Jesus ruling in heaven today, you must be educated in the Law of Christ as taught by Jehovah's witnesses, this is the warning message that God's Kingdom government wants preached today, only the meek and obedient people will survive Armageddon.
Isaiah 48:17,18
Anyone who isolates himself from Jehovah God's provision for life, will not succeed.
Psalms 1:1-3
You have been ask this many times and as of, have not done it. PROVE what you just said from the bible. PROVE it is only Jehovahs Witnesses.
True Christian witness

Bartlesville, OK

#28 Jul 31, 2013
I can't make anyone love and obey Jesus or love and obey Jehovah God, there is no other religion on this earth that can prove from the Scriptures, except Jehovah's witnesses are the only religion that is living and teaching the Truth. Matthew 28:19,20 John 3:36

Only one organized people who have Jehovah God's backing in preaching the good news of God's Kingdom, building Kingdom halls and has a world wide united brotherhood, all united in the same teachings and preaching of one Truth.
1Timothy 2:4-6

Since: Jul 13

Derby, UK

#29 Jul 31, 2013
True Christian witness wrote:
A person can make himself believe anything, the human brain has the capabilities to thoroughly deceive the heart. Jeremiah 17:9
The Bible says, not to deceive yourself to make your conscience invalid by teachings of men over God's word.
Ephesians 5:6
Anyone who turns his back on the truth of Scriptures as taught by Jehovah's witnesses today, has made the decision to return to Satan's world, and will pass away with it at Armageddon.
1John 2:15
Your faith in the false theories of the watchtower society testifies to the truth of your first paragraph.

SQ

Since: Nov 09

Location hidden

#30 Aug 1, 2013
True Christian witness wrote:
I can't make anyone love and obey Jesus or love and obey Jehovah God, there is no other religion on this earth that can prove from the Scriptures, except Jehovah's witnesses are the only religion that is living and teaching the Truth. Matthew 28:19,20 John 3:36
Only one organized people who have Jehovah God's backing in preaching the good news of God's Kingdom, building Kingdom halls and has a world wide united brotherhood, all united in the same teachings and preaching of one Truth.
1Timothy 2:4-6
You cant even prove from the Bible that you are the only religion that is teaching the truth. You have proven that to me many of times when I have ask you to do just that.
Prove that your religion is the only one that has Jehovah's backing. You are not preaching the gospel at all, but you are preaching a false gospel of a religion or organization or a group of men saving you. That is not taught ANYWHERE IN THE BIBLE.

If you are all united in what you teach and preach, why does the GB aka F&DS have to vote on new teachings? The witnesses, and I do use that word lightly, that come here have shown that many of you do not believe the same thing, many do not even agree with the GB aka F&DS at all, but are so brainwashed they are scared to leave the religion. Many have said they don't believe in many of the teachings, but still remain. How many would admit to not believing everything the GB aka F&DS teachings inside a KH? Here they are free to express their real feelings, in the KH, they have to act like all is well and keep up the façade. You even being here shows that you don't agree with everything they say, they have told you and all 7 million others that you should not be on a site like this that has Apostates, mentally diseased people on it. But here you are, going against what they say is best for you. Now you have to remember that they say that its how you treat them that could effect your salvation.
Pat

AOL

#31 Aug 1, 2013
The Real Karen wrote:
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You cant even prove from the Bible that you are the only religion that is teaching the truth. You have proven that to me many of times when I have ask you to do just that.
Prove that your religion is the only one that has Jehovah's backing. You are not preaching the gospel at all, but you are preaching a false gospel of a religion or organization or a group of men saving you. That is not taught ANYWHERE IN THE BIBLE.
If you are all united in what you teach and preach, why does the GB aka F&DS have to vote on new teachings? The witnesses, and I do use that word lightly, that come here have shown that many of you do not believe the same thing, many do not even agree with the GB aka F&DS at all, but are so brainwashed they are scared to leave the religion. Many have said they don't believe in many of the teachings, but still remain. How many would admit to not believing everything the GB aka F&DS teachings inside a KH? Here they are free to express their real feelings, in the KH, they have to act like all is well and keep up the façade. You even being here shows that you don't agree with everything they say, they have told you and all 7 million others that you should not be on a site like this that has Apostates, mentally diseased people on it. But here you are, going against what they say is best for you. Now you have to remember that they say that its how you treat them that could effect your salvation.
Well how we treat false teachers could effect our salvation in that God's word condemns them even welcomng them into your house or bidding them Godspeed , notice the scriptures says
Galatians 1:8

But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be accursed.
these false teachers are cursed by God going against God's word concerning them could cost us salvation .

(Galatians 1:6-10)
I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting him who called you in the grace of Christ and turning to a different gospel -- not that there is another gospel, but there are some who trouble you and want to pervert the gospel of Christ. But even if we, or an angel from heaven, should preach to you a gospel contrary to that which we preached to you, let him be accursed. As we have said before, so now I say again, if anyone is preaching to you a gospel contrary to that which you received, let him be accursed. Am I now seeking the favor of men, or of God? Or am I trying to please men? If I were still pleasing men, I should not be a servant of Christ.
Mike

Bristol, CT

#32 Aug 8, 2013
The Real Karen wrote:
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John 3:16 says WHOSOEVER believes will gain eternal life, it does not say, BUT only if you are a Jehovah's Witness.
John 3:36 says that HE That believeth in the SON have everlasting life. Sorry, it doesn't say but only if the one believing is a Jehovah's Witness.
Why did you say who is in HELL or the grave? Do you believe they are two different places?
You really need to read the bible more. Maybe when you do, then you can show me proof that there is one religion or organization that will save people. From what I have read, it takes true belief IN JESUS to be saved.
I have nothing personal against Jehovah's Witness, they are very kind people, I just happen to disagree with the faith of Jehovah's Witness because they leave leave out certain parts of the bible and have changed some of the wording in other areas. I believe in God and I believe in His Word without making any changes to it or to leave anything out.

Since: Nov 09

Location hidden

#33 Aug 9, 2013
Mike wrote:
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I have nothing personal against Jehovah's Witness, they are very kind people, I just happen to disagree with the faith of Jehovah's Witness because they leave leave out certain parts of the bible and have changed some of the wording in other areas. I believe in God and I believe in His Word without making any changes to it or to leave anything out.
I have nothing against the witnesses either, I love quite a few of them that I have known since I was around 5 years old. That is why I try to show them that I don't know on here about Jesus and the real truth of the bible. I don't believe that many of those here who claim to be witnesses really are, or they are weak ones who come here to cause trouble. There are even those who call themselves witnesses who aren't at all that just come here to make witnesses look bad. We are to love one another enough to try and help them find Jesus before it is to late. Jesus loves us all and he wants each and every one of us to come to him. Telling the truth about how the GB aka F&DS teaches them lies, is how we show them that we love them, they may not see it that way at all, but its what we are suppose to do. I was an active witness for well over 40 plus years, I know how hard it is to walk away from them. It took me so many years to finally realize that I had to make a stand for Jesus.

You are correct, we are not to make changes to the bible. The NWT has many changes in it to correspond with their teachings. We know what the bible says will happen to those who change the words like that.

Since: Nov 09

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#34 Aug 9, 2013
Pat wrote:
<quoted text>
Well how we treat false teachers could effect our salvation in that God's word condemns them even welcomng them into your house or bidding them Godspeed , notice the scriptures says
Galatians 1:8
But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be accursed.
these false teachers are cursed by God going against God's word concerning them could cost us salvation .
(Galatians 1:6-10)
I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting him who called you in the grace of Christ and turning to a different gospel -- not that there is another gospel, but there are some who trouble you and want to pervert the gospel of Christ. But even if we, or an angel from heaven, should preach to you a gospel contrary to that which we preached to you, let him be accursed. As we have said before, so now I say again, if anyone is preaching to you a gospel contrary to that which you received, let him be accursed. Am I now seeking the favor of men, or of God? Or am I trying to please men? If I were still pleasing men, I should not be a servant of Christ.
Thank you Pat for that scripture, and that is why I now refuse to speak to ThirdWitness. We each have our right to decide how we will handle these things, but I have chosen not to speak to those who belittle our Lord with his horrible words. And just for the record, I do not judge those who still speak with him, that is a decision they make.
Pat

AOL

#35 Aug 9, 2013
The Real Karen wrote:
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Thank you Pat for that scripture, and that is why I now refuse to speak to ThirdWitness. We each have our right to decide how we will handle these things, but I have chosen not to speak to those who belittle our Lord with his horrible words. And just for the record, I do not judge those who still speak with him, that is a decision they make.
SOME PEOPLE are better not spoken to if they are going to blasphemey and insult God , His Son or the Holy Spirit not giving them a platform or attention so as to be partaking in their sin in any way is they way to go .God Bless .

Since: Nov 09

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#36 Aug 9, 2013
Pat wrote:
<quoted text>
SOME PEOPLE are better not spoken to if they are going to blasphemey and insult God , His Son or the Holy Spirit not giving them a platform or attention so as to be partaking in their sin in any way is they way to go .God Bless .
I agree!!:)
Pat

AOL

#37 Aug 9, 2013
The Real Karen wrote:
<quoted text>
I agree!!:)
Proclaiming Christ is far more effective than arguing with idiots whose whole goal is to distract from Jesus .
hMMMMM

Aurora, IL

#38 Aug 9, 2013
So admirable!!
The Jehovah's witnesses may aid in the sexual assaults of children by members, and really that is no big deal.
Those victims were all willing participants and enticed our innocent men!
But look at our "actions"!!
Those same awesome men who sexually assault children, built our meeting buildings for free!!
That way they free up needed cash for their defense in court and the millions needed for out of court settlements those little hooligans get from worldly courts!

We are "good people" we Jehovah's witnesses, you can ask any one of us or call our cult leaders and they will tell you that too!!
True Christian witness

Bartlesville, OK

#39 Aug 10, 2013
Narrow minded bigots are like the poor, they will always be in this world, but not in the new one soon to be here.

Now is the time to start your personal Bible study with Jehovah's witnesses, so you can make an educated decision whether to live in a righteous new earth or not.
This world is passing away and so is every person who is not in Jehovah's protection, some people just can't obey Jehovah's requirements, they love their life more than God's will.
1John 2:15

Since: Nov 09

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#40 Aug 10, 2013
True Christian witness wrote:
Narrow minded bigots are like the poor, they will always be in this world, but not in the new one soon to be here.
How much more narrow minded and bigot can you be than with the line you just wrote?
True Christian witness wrote:
Now is the time to start your personal Bible study with Jehovah's witnesses, so you can make an educated decision whether to live in a righteous new earth or not.
This world is passing away and so is every person who is not in Jehovah's protection, some people just can't obey Jehovah's requirements, they love their life more than God's will.
1John 2:15
You are pointing people towards a religion, an organization, and that is not the way for finding true salvation. There is only one way to be saved, and that is to FIND JESUS, to learn of him and his gospel and to truly believe in HIM. JWs may be doing what they believe is Gods will, but so are many other religions on this earth. Your religion is no different than any other religion that believes it is right, or that they are doing what they should for God. But what we have to remember is this, the name JW's, Southern Baptist, Catholics, Methodist, ETC, will have no bearing on your salvation at all. It is how we believed in Jesus, how we loved our neighbors, how we show our true belief in Jesus that will have a bearing on our salvation. By coming on a forum and telling people that if you are not a JW, you will die, is not what Jesus want us to do. HE wants us to tell everyone about what he did for us, how he saved us through his blood. A religion has nothing to do with that at all. We are saved by the Grace of God, not by the grace of a name of a religion. No where in the bible will you find that a religion will save us. Nor will you find where any organization or MEN who call themselves Gods mouth piece, who claim that in how you support them will determine your salvation. It is only in JESUS that we find salvation, the bible says so.

I pray that Jesus calls you, and you will feel that calling upon your heart and answer it. Then once you are able to truly see Jesus for who he is, you can repent of your sins and ask Jesus to come into your life. Then and only then will you see that Jesus is the only way to salvation. Jehovah sent Jesus to be our savior, he did not send a religion or organization or men who claim to have a part in our salvation.

Since: Nov 09

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#41 Aug 10, 2013
I am leaving now. I hope all of you have a wonderful rest of your day.

Rememeber, Jesus wants us to tell everyone what he did for us. He wants to save all of us. He does not have one group of people he is saving, but he died for ALL OF US. The bible says that WHOSOEVER believes in him, and yes we know that means truly believes, will gain eternal life. WHOSOEVER is not one religion, but ANY ONE WHO BELIEVES IN JESUS with all their heart, body, soul, and mind.

"Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess also before my Father which is in heaven." that says confesses ME before me, that is JESUS CHIRST not the name of a religion.

Romans 10:9
If you declare with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.

Revelation 3:5
The one who is victorious will, like them, be dressed in white. I will never blot out the name of that person from the book of life, but will acknowledge that name before my Father and his angels.

He that believeth on me hath everlasting life. John 6:47

For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast. For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good work... Ephesians 2:8-10

And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment. 1 John 3:23
Lie detector 2

Redditch, UK

#42 Aug 10, 2013
The Real Karen wrote:
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Thank you Pat for that scripture, and that is why I now refuse to speak to ThirdWitness. We each have our right to decide how we will handle these things, but I have chosen not to speak to those who belittle our Lord with his horrible words. And just for the record, I do not judge those who still speak with him, that is a decision they make.
Pat dont want you listening to anybody but her. LOL! shes always trying to make you listen to her and the men she wants you to listen to and read.

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