Christian Church opens doors to Muslims

Christian Church opens doors to Muslims

There are 520 comments on the BBC News story from Mar 30, 2013, titled Christian Church opens doors to Muslims. In it, BBC News reports that:

On a bitterly cold and snowing afternoon in Aberdeen, the doors of St John's Episcopal Church are open to hundreds of Muslim worshippers, arriving for daily prayers.

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“... truth will out.”

Since: May 08

Stratford, Connecticut.

#184 Apr 16, 2013
RevKen wrote:
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You take her words out of context ...
Did the news editor who wrote this headline about those words misunderstand her as well?

Bishop: Focus on personal salvation is 'heresy','idolatry'

He got the point, but did you?

Since: Aug 09

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#185 Apr 17, 2013
Joe DeCaro wrote:
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Did the news editor who wrote this headline about those words misunderstand her as well?
Bishop: Focus on personal salvation is 'heresy','idolatry'
He got the point, but did you?
Well,... if you don't understand, maybe you should put your noggin to it.

Is it your assertion that because a reporter or news editor believes something or has a knee jerk reaction about something said by someone, it is to be automatically understood the same way as they have interpreted the remarks?

In other words, do you believe everything you read?... especially as interpreted by reporters and news editors?

Sheesh!

Do you think that just because someone says some hocus pocus phrase, like, "I accept Jesus Christ into my heart as my personal savior," that all of a sudden that person is now forever saved? Then, after that magical pronouncement, the person is welcome to wander off and do whatever they like, because from that point forward the board was wiped clean and the clock has been reset - sinner 1, devil 0?

The Body of Christ is a participation-based enclave, Joe. What is more is that the gift of Grace and the Holy Spirit is much more than just a fleeting emotional experience.

You are a thick-head, Joe, and you do not like Kate Jefferts-Schori, for whatever reasons.

But, yes, you have taken her comments out of context and refused to understand and then you have repeatedly tried to distort the message.

Rev. Ken

“... truth will out.”

Since: May 08

Stratford, Connecticut.

#186 Apr 17, 2013
RevKen wrote:
In other words, do you believe everything you read?...
No, but you will disbelieve everything from the Bible to USA Today when it doesn't agree with your views.

By Cathy Lynn Grossman
USA TODAY Updated 2009-07-10 5:55 AM

Sex, politics, and poverty evidently aren't hot enough topics for The Episcopal Church's presiding bishop, Katharine Jefferts Schori. Wednesday, she threw a grenade on personal salvation, too.

She even took a swipe at the "sinners prayer" -- a brief-but-intense prayer admitting to sin and submitting to Jesus ...

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/relig...

Since: Aug 09

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#187 Apr 17, 2013
Joe DeCaro wrote:
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No, but you will disbelieve everything from the Bible to USA Today when it doesn't agree with your views.
By Cathy Lynn Grossman
USA TODAY Updated 2009-07-10 5:55 AM
Sex, politics, and poverty evidently aren't hot enough topics for The Episcopal Church's presiding bishop, Katharine Jefferts Schori. Wednesday, she threw a grenade on personal salvation, too.
She even took a swipe at the "sinners prayer" -- a brief-but-intense prayer admitting to sin and submitting to Jesus ...
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/relig...
Because USA Today reporter Cathy Lynn Grossman wrote this in July, 2009, nearly FOUR years ago, I'm supposed to believe something in particular? By the tone of her remarks, it is likely that she is one of the evangelical Christians who has recited this "sinner's prayer." Hey! Maybe our friend Tucker is one, too!

She quotes a UCC Pastor in support of Schori's remarks. Then, she quotes David Virtue, your favorite Anti-Episcopalian, who says, prophetically that the ACC is on the rise and TEC is going under.

LOL!!!.... Well, how's that bit of prophesy working out for ya, David?

Sorry, Joe. You missed the point the first time around and you haven't done anything to change either your misconceptions or your misguided motus operendi.

Rev. Ken

Since: Aug 09

Location hidden

#188 Apr 17, 2013
Joe DeCaro wrote:
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No, but you will disbelieve everything from the Bible to USA Today when it doesn't agree with your views.
By Cathy Lynn Grossman
USA TODAY Updated 2009-07-10 5:55 AM
Sex, politics, and poverty evidently aren't hot enough topics for The Episcopal Church's presiding bishop, Katharine Jefferts Schori. Wednesday, she threw a grenade on personal salvation, too.
She even took a swipe at the "sinners prayer" -- a brief-but-intense prayer admitting to sin and submitting to Jesus ...
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/relig...
Maybe this will help.

http://www.sevenwholedays.org/2012/06/10/acna...

Check it out.

No mention is made of the withdrawal of the Rwandan group from ACNA. But, that withdrawal reduced the number of ACNA Congregations from 900+ to about 650.

The Anglican Communion continues to dialogue with ACNA. But, has also written that a full inclusion of ACNA will not occur anytime soon.

Then, of course, there are the ongoing issues of asset accountability that the groups of Churches having left The Episcopal Church and joined ACNA are still going to have to reckon with, as a result of maturing lawsuits with TEC. In other words, the "Pittsburgh Pirates" are still playing ball with TEC.

And it ain't just softball on the part of TEC.

If you go to the ACNA website, there is an interesting condition. Though the website has "2013" at the bottom of the opening page, there is almost nothing to be seen in content or updates in the website pages that shows any active updating since June or July of 2012. Obviously, there isn't a whole lot happening here.

Not to ake anything away from ACNA. But, some of the initial shne is wearing off.

I am watching the progression of events and findings regarding the Boston Marathon and the preparations for the upcoming London Marathon. These are significant happenings and will affect attitudes and responses within the Anglican Communion.

In addition, the Aberdeen Episcopalians will be reconsidering their hospitality to the Aberdeen Muslims, especialy if Islamic terrorists are found to have been the culprits in Boston.

But, my guess is that the Aberdeen Episcopalians will reinforce their friendships with their Muslim counterparts, regardless of the outcome of findings in the wake of the Boston bombings.

WWJD?

Rev. Ken

“... truth will out.”

Since: May 08

Stratford, Connecticut.

#189 Apr 17, 2013
RevKen wrote:
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Because USA Today reporter Cathy Lynn Grossman wrote this in July, 2009, nearly FOUR years ago ...
... because that's when Schori first said it, but again, you will discredit anything from the Bible to USA Today when it doesn't agree with your views.
JOHN COBB

Mesa, AZ

#190 Apr 17, 2013
Christians need somebody to teach them something
about discipline.Maybe Muslims can teach them not
to steal,rob,marry gay couples,kill 900 people in jonestown,teach false tithing doctrines etc.One day
they all going to die and go to hell or somewere were
the dumn asses go for dishonesty.

Since: Aug 09

Location hidden

#191 Apr 18, 2013
JOHN COBB wrote:
Christians need somebody to teach them something
about discipline.Maybe Muslims can teach them not
to steal,rob,marry gay couples,kill 900 people in jonestown,teach false tithing doctrines etc.One day
they all going to die and go to hell or somewere were
the dumn asses go for dishonesty.
John Cobb,

I agree with most that you have written - except the bit about marrying gay couples.

And as for Jonestown, an awful lot of the Muslims are just as lemming-like to their mullahs as were Jones' koolaid drinkers to their suicide master. Nothing to be taken from the Muslims, there.

“The Kingdom of God Begins NOW!”

Since: May 07

The Mountain Empire

#192 Apr 18, 2013
Joe DeCaro wrote:
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... because that's when Schori first said it, but again, you will discredit anything from the Bible to USA Today when it doesn't agree with your views.
Sorry JOLINE your rogue churches are NOT part of the Anglican communion and there are 3 (THREE) religious groups that believe in one God, the same God of Abraham.....

“... truth will out.”

Since: May 08

Stratford, Connecticut.

#193 Apr 18, 2013
MiddleWay wrote:
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Sorry JOLINE your rogue churches ...
Moron, USA Today is a newspaper, not a church.

By Cathy Lynn Grossman
USA TODAY Updated 2009-07-10 5:55 AM

Since: Aug 09

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#194 Apr 18, 2013
Joe DeCaro wrote:
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Moron, USA Today is a newspaper, not a church.
By Cathy Lynn Grossman
USA TODAY Updated 2009-07-10 5:55 AM
Boy!

That one went clean over your head!

“The Kingdom of God Begins NOW!”

Since: May 07

The Mountain Empire

#195 Apr 19, 2013
RevKen wrote:
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Boy!
That one went clean over your head!
As do all things that joline disagrees with and can't admit he was wrong about.

Just wait till he sees this:

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Va. court: Episcopal Church owns disputed property
Posted: Apr 18, 2013 11:06 AM CDT Updated: Apr 18, 2013 11:06 AM CDT
By LARRY O'DELL
Associated Press

RICHMOND, Va.(AP)- The Virginia Supreme Court has ruled in favor of the Episcopal Church in a property dispute with a breakaway congregation.

The unanimous decision Thursday affirmed a lower court's ruling that the Episcopal Church retained ownership of the historic Falls Church, which voted in 2006 to align with the more conservative Anglican Communion. The Falls Church was 1 of 7 Virginia congregations that left the Episcopal Church because of theological differences, including the 2003 consecration of an openly gay bishop in New Hampshire.

The Falls Church was founded in 1732 and traces its roots to George Washington. The justices said the congregation's attempt to withdraw but still maintain the property violated its fiduciary duty to the Episcopal Church and its Virginia Diocese.

“... truth will out.”

Since: May 08

Stratford, Connecticut.

#196 Apr 19, 2013
MiddleWay wrote:
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Sorry JOLINE your rogue churches are NOT part of the Anglican communion ...
Did you suddenly realize that the Roman Catholic church I attend is not part of the Anglican Communion?

“The Kingdom of God Begins NOW!”

Since: May 07

The Mountain Empire

#197 Apr 19, 2013
Joe DeCaro wrote:
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Did you suddenly realize that the Roman Catholic church I attend is not part of the Anglican Communion?
You don't attend anywhere but whatever.

Thank you for admitting the only thing you have to do with TEC is volunteering for the role of accuser.

No wonder you're so bitter and angry.

LOL......

“... truth will out.”

Since: May 08

Stratford, Connecticut.

#198 Apr 19, 2013
MiddleWay wrote:
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You don't attend anywhere but whatever.
Thank you for admitting the only thing you have to do with TEC is volunteering for the role of accuser ...
In journalism, reporting the truth that you don't want to hear is called an expose, and now you're admitting that I'm not Episopalian after posting to the contrary in #192.

And I still attend Holy Name of Jesus RC Church, so not only are you a moron, you're a liar as well, which explains why you don't post under your real name.

Since: Aug 09

Location hidden

#199 Apr 19, 2013
Joe DeCaro wrote:
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In journalism, reporting the truth that you don't want to hear is called an expose, and now you're admitting that I'm not Episopalian after posting to the contrary in #192.
And I still attend Holy Name of Jesus RC Church, so not only are you a moron, you're a liar as well, which explains why you don't post under your real name.
What a bald-faced LIAR you are!

Are you also a typical "Christian?" LOL!!!....

You yourself have posted numerous times here on Topix that you are STILL on the membership rolls of the Episcopal Church!

If you actually do deny this membership, why don't you do something about it?

That is, unless you are afraid. In the meantime, since you now fully admit to attending the RCC, how about going to your RCC priest and asking him if your lies about Episcopalians together with your claiming to still be a member of TEC constitutes any kind of behavior from which you should repent?

You are one foot in and one foot out and openly chucking spears at both. Therefore, you are not an honest participant in either!

Rev. Ken
mahfoud

Malaysia

#200 Apr 19, 2013
Where do you all get your facts from. If Muslims interest you that much here is what you should do:
-See if there are Muslims in your area
-approach one
-get to know him/her
-and most importantly be honest

you can keep your prejudgments, it s OK.
Sick of islam

London, UK

#201 Apr 19, 2013
mahfoud wrote:
Where do you all get your facts from. If Muslims interest you that much here is what you should do:
-See if there are Muslims in your area
-approach one
-get to know him/her
-and most importantly be honest
you can keep your prejudgments, it s OK.
muslims come in very different degrees. Some are violent - whereas others are law abidung and peaceful. The issus isn't muslims - the issue is islam which is murderous and violent and warps the minds of people turning them into backward "humans".

“... truth will out.”

Since: May 08

Stratford, Connecticut.

#202 Apr 19, 2013
RevKen wrote:
You yourself have posted numerous times here on Topix that you are STILL on the membership rolls of the Episcopal Church!...
... as an inactive member because TEC still counts people who left years ago, even if they currently attend a different denomination!

That kind of dishonesty is typical of YOUR church, a church that can't the difference between right and wrong, truth and falsehood or Jesus and Mohammad.

Since: Apr 11

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#203 Apr 19, 2013
mahfoud wrote:
Where do you all get your facts from. If Muslims interest you that much here is what you should do:
-See if there are Muslims in your area
-approach one
-get to know him/her
-and most importantly be honest
you can keep your prejudgments, it s OK.
You are sic in the head.

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