Filipino child punished in Canada for...

Filipino child punished in Canada for table manners

There are 256 comments on the ABS-CBN News story from Apr 25, 2006, titled Filipino child punished in Canada for table manners. In it, ABS-CBN News reports that:

The Chronicle A Roxboro, Canada, woman has filed a formal complaint with a local school board after her son was disciplined by a lunch program monitor for eating in what she says is a customary Filipino manner.

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Lumawig Pasetes

United States

#2 May 3, 2006
I was shocked to read how the young boy was treated by the school principal due to his manner of eating using spoon and fork as he was brought up as a Filipino. He should know that using spoon and fork in eating is uniquely Filipino. I have four kids who all grew up in the United States, use spoon and fork [the Filipino way] when [and wherever]they eat. This just shows the narrow mindedness of the school principal who proved himself to be uneducated on cultural nuances. Would he have acted the same way had the boy used chopsticks which is predominantly used by other Asians? I am sure he would not have disciplined anybody using chopstick during school lunch, which is obviously not the Canadian way of eating. Mr. Bergeron, why don't you try eating your meal the way we Filipinos do and you will learn the practicality of using those utensils?
Garry

Toronto, Canada

#3 May 3, 2006
Lumawig Pasetes wrote:
I was shocked to read how the young boy was treated by the school principal due to his manner of eating using spoon and fork as he was brought up as a Filipino. He should know that using spoon and fork in eating is uniquely Filipino. I have four kids who all grew up in the United States, use spoon and fork [the Filipino way] when [and wherever]they eat. This just shows the narrow mindedness of the school principal who proved himself to be uneducated on cultural nuances. Would he have acted the same way had the boy used chopsticks which is predominantly used by other Asians? I am sure he would not have disciplined anybody using chopstick during school lunch, which is obviously not the Canadian way of eating. Mr. Bergeron, why don't you try eating your meal the way we Filipinos do and you will learn the practicality of using those utensils?
Don't worry, nobody is arguing, the lunch monitor and anyone else involved will get sensitivity training and all will be cool.
Ino Philip

Taguig City, Philippines

#4 May 4, 2006
I think Mr. Bergeron was brought up in a very primitive way by his parents. Maybe they used sharpened stones instead of spoon or fork when they were eating.
JDE205

Quezon City, Philippines

#5 May 5, 2006
I am just curious, do pigs in Roxboro eat with spoon and fork? Whoa, that is an amazing feat! If he has never seen anyone eat with both utensils, I am too sad for him. Why doesn't he get out of his school and see life outside. He will be surprised to see that a lot of immigrants eat differently at the table in Montreal. I read that there are some members of the "real" Canadians of the First Nations who eat with their bare hands. I don't think anyone has the right to call their table manners as "yucky and disgusting." It is because they eat like some Canadians do.

About the fork, I will try eating French fries next time with fork. Hey, I do not want to be called "uncivilized." I'd rather be civilized than stupid.
Bokyo

Grove, OK

#6 May 6, 2006
Rice originally came from southeast asia, the region where the Philippines is. To use just the fork to eat rice is pretentious, impractical, and silly. Being of a rice-eating culture, Filipinos use both spoon and fork.
Mr ray

Surrey, Canada

#8 May 8, 2006
Hey..... when it calls you..isn't sound idiot. internationally we used spoon beside prime minester in canada and prisident of united states, are using spoon in fork at all time. it that considered as PIG... IS THAT SO.I PILIPINO WHO USED SPOON AND FORK ALL THE TIME SO THEN i considered myself human bieng not pigggggggggggggg. understand....bastard...
shocked

Guangzhou, China

#10 May 8, 2006
to pabling, i find your comments 'disgusting and unintelligent'. assuming the boy really ate like a pig, which i know for a fact wasnt the case, it still wasn't proper for the principal and the lunch monitor to punish him the way they did. they're in the field of education...surely there must be a better way to reprimand their students without damaging the child emotionally?...not that i agree with the punishment they dished out on poor luc. and i agree with one poster's comment, to try to eat rice with a fork is very very very pretentious. eat with a fork? haha. all for what? to fit in? tsk tsk, trying to fit in in another country is just fine but to actually abandon who you really are is something already. but if you insist on forgetting you who are in pursuit of fitting in, please do so in such a way that you wont appear funny and yes, pretentious.

and no one is fighting the canadians here....we are merely after teaching the principal and the lunch monitor a lesson. i work with a french canadian and he fully supports the protest being staged against those 2 ignoramuses.

hmmm, im in the mood for pinakbet, tinola and dinuguan..pass the spoon and knife, please!
shocked

Guangzhou, China

#12 May 8, 2006
pabling.......ohmigudness! now i see that it is your UNDERSTANDING that's the problem. tsk tsk. who is imposing filipino customs on the canadians? what the protesters are upset about is the disrespect of the 2 canadians for other cultures and actually calling other customs unintelligent. get it? THAT is the point of this argument. and wow, you really think filipino custom is old and improper? my french canadian says you're worse than the canadian..that's all i can say. such a good thing you're not in the philippines then...we only want well-mannered and intelligent PINOYS there.
(yours is the typical example of the 'nakatapak ka lang ng ibang bansa eh akala mo na kung sino ka. di ka marunong lumingon sa pinanggalingan mo!'.)
pokroy

United States

#15 May 9, 2006
alam mo pabling isa lang ang masasabi ko sa mga sinabi mo ikaw ang klase ng tao na walang prinsipyo at ipinaglalaban sa buhay.....
Nikolai Dmitrievitch

Philippines

#17 May 10, 2006
Pabling,

It is because we cannot really understand your principles if you have. I don't use spoon either 'coz I don't eat rice but I do respect the other people who do. I don't consider them as uncivilized because that's the way they eat. Now if you want to shout to the whole world that you are civilized, please do watch your yourself first. I don't know what's your job but your manner tells something....¡ "Esto es colmo"!¡Qué poca verguenza! para tu.
Pauline

Ripley, Canada

#18 May 10, 2006
this is the most ridiculous thing I have ever read. A 7 year old child being punished for using his fork to push food on his spoon.
He was polite enough not to use his fingers! This school needs a reality check! I feel sorry for any child attending this school!
It's hard enough to get children to eat without asine rules like this.
lew

Marblehead, MA

#20 May 11, 2006
I dont know the whole story, but if the kid was punished because he was using the fork and spoon, well...that's just outrageous and ridiculous.

Some Italians use fork and spoon to eat spaghetti. Would they be considered uncivilized too?

FORK THOSE TWO KNUCKLEHEADS.
lew

Marblehead, MA

#21 May 11, 2006
PABLING,

GET AWAY FROM THE 'THEY'RE RIGHT CAUSE THEY'RE WHITE ATTITUDE'
lew

Marblehead, MA

#24 May 11, 2006
I think that principal should be removed from his post.
That behaviour is just the tip of the iceberg.
lew

Marblehead, MA

#26 May 12, 2006
pabling,

im sorry, but you're as idiotic as that principal.

You'll be respected more if you actually stand up and fight for what you think is right, instead of just following the masses like a herd of goats.
shocked

Guangzhou, China

#31 May 13, 2006
guys guys.....arguing with pabling is pointless. lew said "stay away from the they're right cos they're white attitude" and now pabling understood it to mean that lew is saying that whites are wrong just because they're white? sheeeeekkkkks! and he says he is more than 40 years old!! he has the logic of a 4 year old..no no, let me correct that..a 3 year old! arguing with him is an insult to our intelligence. just ignore his posts!
silver

Europe

#36 May 13, 2006
wag ka uuwi ng pinas pabling baka matusok ka ng tinidor
JDE205

Quezon City, Philippines

#38 May 15, 2006
What an otherwise simple matter of correction of how to treat people of different culture in a foreign country has grown into some kind of fight among Filipinos. A fight between perhaps a TNT in Seattle, Washington afraid to raise any voice in a foreign country and who abhors his own country and those who fight for the right of a child in Canada. Good that some of our "kababayans" have already left our country, they would have turned their tails anyway facing the dictator GMA in the Philippines.

At any rate, pig or not, child or adult, immigrant or Filipino in the Philippines, respect for each other's culture is primordial in a diverse society. It is the essence of a live and let live principle in a modern society.

What takes the goat of the incident is lack of respect for another which is by the way what is happening in the Philippines, anyway. So what's difference anyway here and abroad?

The nationalist historian Renato Constantino was correct in discoursing on the evils of individualism that Filipinos have the habit of apathetic and cynical depending on whether they benefit from the evils of the society or suffer from them.

God bless.

Huway Mag-away.
lew

Marblehead, MA

#39 May 15, 2006
off with the principal's head.
lew

Marblehead, MA

#41 May 15, 2006
A messageto Luc, stay strong little brother.

to pabling: you make me laugh, but off with your head, wacko!

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