Jews share a concern for the well-being of humanity

[Parsley]

paul shykora ARTs wrote:

<quoted text>...vhy are you's,no-name-false,...hiding in the ....dark???....eh..

Shykora is a bit of a dim-wit, so you'll have to excuse him. He also is unable to write complete sentences.

[paul shykora ARTs]

Parsley wrote:

<quoted text>Shykora is a bit of a dim-wit, so you'll have to excuse him. He also is unable to write complete sentences.

...SO...So I's a dim-wit,to the call of mortal and spiritual duty....eh...

[dHat Pawlo]

...wow...Pijoyo and I are jump'n with JOY...Paul Shykora,our best friend....spoke a ''WHOLE'' Sentence...like He's alive,alive...

[dHat Pawlo]

...L like the m movie..Frankenstein...''he's alive..alive....''..stuttering

[Shytekora]

Shykora ain't just a "dim-wit" he's an annoying dim-wit. He is a total plague on topix, he can't even write in real English.

[paul shykora ARTs]

Shytekora wrote:

Shykora ain't just a "dim-wit" he's an annoying dim-wit. He is a total plague on topix, he can't even write in real English.

...ahhhhhhh..ha...but He is ALIVE...Alive....alive.....eh. ..(+)...

[MESSIANIC114]

shari wrote:

35 This is what the LORD says,
he who appoints the sun
to shine by day,
who decrees the moon and stars
to shine by night,
who stirs up the sea
so that its waves roar—
the LORD Almighty is his name:
36 “Only if these decrees vanish from my sight,”
declares the LORD,
“will Israel ever cease
being a nation before me.”
37 This is what the LORD says:
“Only if the heavens above can be measured
and the foundations of the earth below be searched out
will I reject all the descendants of Israel
because of all they have done,”
declares the LORD.

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And G-d preserved a faithful remnent in the followers of the Messiah. These are the ones who honour him. Jews for the most part either:
1. Won't mention his name (The J person)
2. Use an achromin (Yeshu, which means may his name be blotted out)
3. Refer to him as the dead Jew on a stick.
4. Deny he ever existed.
5. Use his name as a curse word.
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Do you really think that:
1. The Jew can keep the covenant being there is no temple for expiation of sin
2. They don't break the law continually.*Like not keeping the sabbath year)
3. They don't obey the voice of the prophet like Moses (Yeshua).
4. They don't return to the land G-d has given them.
5. I could go on and on....
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That G-d is going to let them enter his rest?
Just like the generation that left Egypt, most Jews refuse to enter the promise.

[paul shykora arts]

dHat Pawlo wrote:

...wow...Pijoyo and I are jump'n with JOY...Paul Shykora,our best friend....spoke a ''WHOLE'' Sentence...like He's alive,alive...

..THANKYOU's...He is alive..alive......joy...like our distant-friend..Frankenstien.. .alive

[rabbee yehoshooah adam]

Shari wrote:

Clearly there are educated people participating here. My point though isnt about the lost tribes ...although of course you're right that Judah or the Jewish people are not the whole house of Israel. My point isn't about whether any or all tribes of Israel broke covenant with their God either. You and I both know what human nature is like and no one is innocent. The point being that He swore He would never break covenant even though we all do and Israel would too. Which leads to the NEXT point where we have to ask whether we really believe God is a liar who breaks His promises...like the ones in Jeremiah 31. Because if thats the God any of us believe in we are all in big trouble.

rabbee: how can G-D, keep any promise made to anyone who do not keep theirs with HIM? G-D shall always, keep HIS Promises here in TheTorah. as long as you keep, your promise with HIM here in TheTorah.

G-D does not keep promises, to those who run off to become idolitors of other g-ds. idolitry has cost them, three temples already. and that has definatly, not a good sign. not to mention the times, they were removed from Ysrael. into the slavery, of other nations. it takes at least two, to both keep their promise with each other truly.

and by the way Shari, you are a member of one of the lost tribes. so you should, be concerned about this too.

[rabbee yehoshooah adam]

MESSIANIC114 wrote:

<quoted text>
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And G-d preserved a faithful remnent in the followers of the Messiah. These are the ones who honour him. Jews for the most part either:
1. Won't mention his name (The J person)
2. Use an achromin (Yeshu, which means may his name be blotted out)
3. Refer to him as the dead Jew on a stick.
4. Deny he ever existed.
5. Use his name as a curse word.
.
Do you really think that:
1. The Jew can keep the covenant being there is no temple for expiation of sin
2. They don't break the law continually.*Like not keeping the sabbath year)
3. They don't obey the voice of the prophet like Moses (Yeshua).
4. They don't return to the land G-d has given them.
5. I could go on and on....
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That G-d is going to let them enter his rest?
Just like the generation that left Egypt, most Jews refuse to enter the promise.

rabbee: personally: i think this third Torah time is all going to end up, like the last two Torot times. with G-D giving TheWhole Torah again, because for the third time. there is again, nobody here in the same again Story today.

and further more to call Adam by anyother name, is to deny G-D here in TheTorah just again. no matter how many, victorious losers rewrite world history as if never here in TheTorah again from HaShem G-D. with the whole world, denying G-D here in TheVery Same Old Story Again from HIM.

[paul shykora ARTs]

...GOD BLESS...Shalom....eh

[Vivek Golikeri]

Jews are indeed generally a positive force in whichever country they call home! To be sure, there is good and bad everywhere. I have sometimes clashed with some underhanded and corrupt Jewish cliques, and predictably been branded an anti-Semite for daring to call out their mischief.

But such creeps are the exception to the rule. These poor people suffered so much in the past. Yet inspite of all their pain they rose to great heights of achievement, and gave so much to humanity.

[paul SHYKORA arts]

Vivek Golikeri wrote:

Jews are indeed generally a positive force in whichever country they call home! To be sure, there is good and bad everywhere. I have sometimes clashed with some underhanded and corrupt Jewish cliques, and predictably been branded an anti-Semite for daring to call out their mischief.
But such creeps are the exception to the rule. These poor people suffered so much in the past. Yet inspite of all their pain they rose to great heights of achievement, and gave so much to humanity.

..amen...Broher..amen...eh...$ $$..(+yada u u...shalom...salom...

[MAAT]

If you study the gospel text critically you would start with reading the original Mark. Later on all gospels were extented or got addition and insertions to bring them in line with developed theology. So early christianity (a misnomer)would not look one bit as most modern christians now take it to have been.
You wil find no virginbirth, no trinity, no resurrection nor the intent of one.

But (act as if church-history is correct)50 years later you find an entire theology developed in John. That conflicts with the tanakh but gives a good representation of Roman god ideas, gods with sons that were crucified in the regions surrounding religions and the popular philosophy of greek romans.

[MESSIANIC114]

MAAT wrote:

If you study the gospel text critically you would start with reading the original Mark. Later on all gospels were extented or got addition and insertions to bring them in line with developed theology. So early christianity (a misnomer)would not look one bit as most modern christians now take it to have been.
You wil find no virginbirth, no trinity, no resurrection nor the intent of one.
But (act as if church-history is correct)50 years later you find an entire theology developed in John. That conflicts with the tanakh but gives a good representation of Roman god ideas, gods with sons that were crucified in the regions surrounding religions and the popular philosophy of greek romans.

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If you study the gospel text objectively, even allowing for disputed texts being added (usually a verse or two) you will agree that these have not changed the meaning of the author or conflict with the other witnesses.

<quoted text> You will find no virgin birth, no trinity, no resurrection nor the intent of one.
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Who among scholars says the virgin birth of Matthew was added afterward?
Who among scholars says the resurrection in Matthew, Luke or John was added later?
The word trinity is never used in ALL of the X-tian scriptures!

<quoted text> That conflicts with the tanakh but gives a good representation of Roman god ideas, gods with sons that were crucified in the regions surrounding religions and the popular philosophy of greek romans.

Let’s examine the evidence we have:
Virgin birth is prophesied in a Jewish translation preceding X-tianity. LXX
Virgin birth is recorded at least times in the works of Jewish philosopher Philo.
Virgin birth is recorded in Jewish tradition. Tree of Souls - Howard Schwartz pp lvii
Messiah to be crucified:
In Yalkut (vol. ii. par. 620, p. 90 a, line 12 from the bottom), we have the following remarkable simile on the words,'against God, and His Messiah,' likening them to a robber who stands defiantly behind the palace of the king, and says, If I shall find the son of the king, I shall lay hold on him, and crucify him, and kill him with a cruel death.
Resurrection:
When the people (at Mt Sinai) heard this voice their soul left them. They obviously revived.
Guide for the Perplexed translation by M. Friedlander pg 222
Dan 12:2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.
The doctrine of the resurrection was debated in post-biblical times and the normative view became that held by the Pharisees, that there would be a resurrection of the dead. Concurrently the notion of judgment of the individual in the afterlife beyond the grave, his consignment to heaven or hell, began to arise.
Judaism Arthur Hertzberg page 207
Thus the Psalmist intimates (Ps. 50. 4),'He will call to the heavens above and to the earth that He may judge his people': that is to say, He will unite man's heavenly element (the soul) with his earthly element (the body) again, and will fix the responsibility on the reunited whole. Levit. Rabba 4.
In fact, this tension in (Is 53:8,10)--between the Servant's death and the Servant's length of days leads some OT commentators to conclude that a resurrection is implied in the text. Mowinkel, Young, Blocher
And when the children heard the words "I am the Lord your G-d" (Ex 20:2) they fell down in fear and their souls departed. Then G-d caused the dew of the resurrection, which will revive the souls of the righteous at the End of Days, to fall upon them. Tree of Souls - Howard Schwartz pp 261
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Conclusion: The testimony of the Jews who witnessed the life of Messiah is consistant with what was taught in earlier Judaism.

[paul SHYKORA arts]

..ABOVE Toooooooooooooooo long...just sing ..dance...pray.....oh jerusalem...simple...eh..

[MAAT]

?? paul i agree.
And i have to check whether it is all true.
Or even relevant.
F.i. Philo was working on logos and pneuma but declared anathema by the church-fathers.
I was just working on that today.

It can coincide but does not mean it found it's way.
If you added dates it would be easier.
or sources to sites.

Schwartz was mentioned, what, half a year ago? i've not read it. Nor have a source.

I usually find it interesting, but like today with a bit of a head-cold, I'm just not up for it.

Same goes for the Aramaic Yeshua that can not be translated one on one in Hebrew.

[paul SHYKORA arts]

...MAAT....Vhaaat??...eh

[MAAT]

DUNK...

[paul SHYKORA arts]

MAAT wrote:

DUNK...

..now you's are most..(-)..negative,here..and stupid...eh..