Stockwell Day runs into a bit of Hami...

Stockwell Day runs into a bit of Hamilton's rougher side : eg. Maybe Let's Make a **** Deal or NOT

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#1 Jan 12, 2008
Stockwell took a day to report drug deal

(Jan 12, 2008)- Stockwell Day's office is downplaying an incident in which he says he encountered a drug deal while visiting Hamilton Thursday which he made light of at a Conservative party fundraiser...

http://www.thespec.com/article/308510
klaus kaczor

Vancouver, Canada

#2 Jan 13, 2008
You'd think the Bigshot law and order guy that Mr. Day is, he might carry a cell phone. one little call and he might have done something. No he's clueless and stupid to boot.

We have these dealers on the street selling, with no controls, because of Mr. Day and his stupid policies. These dealers have been here through all of prohibition growing exponentially in numbers, and will continue to be here as long as prohibition exists, getting tougher the tougher that cops get.

Wtf, is Mr. Day that stupid that he can't add one plus one and come out with two?

He, and the lame brain, Harper, can't see that their policy will do nothing except make religious right-wing morons happy, but never relieve us of having to make our way past throngs of dealers and their victims doing unimpeded business on the streets...

Sure some are gonna do a couple more months after costing the government more in the courts, but not anything to do with the guts of the dope business will change. It is a fact that about 3% percent of people will be addicts and nothing has ever changed that no matter what substances were legal or illegal.

It's part of the human condition, has nothing to do with criminality, and no one else's G*dd*m business. Certainly not any reason to make another human a criminal and give over a multi billion dollar crime market for those who want to be criminals to excel in.

I see total idiocy in a leader that burdens their citizens under prohibition, for political reasons. I see a despot who likes to oppress people who should be free to do what ever they wish and learn to surmount their own addiction problems.(as we do now)

Every one of my ancestors, right back to the first thing that wiggled on this planet, had the freedom to ingest whatever they chose, and every single one of them chose correctly, without the benefit of criminal laws or the likes of Stockwell Day looking out for them.

How do I know this? Because I am their progeny and all my cylinders are firing good enough for me to see that prohibition is religious morality gone mad.

I can see that reason would prevail expressing itself as wise personal choice if we controlled our own destiny and what we ingest, not the government.

The whole notion of criminal sanction to control what is a fact of life is nuts. No other species has such a control and all are doing well. At least they aren't suffering addiction problems.

No, we have absurd laws, because we have absurd belief systems, which are bent on causing suffering in the human race. As long as idiots rule, we will see the degradation of everything on this planet.

The leadership of the human race can be judged by this scripture "You can judge the tree by the fruit it bears" The fruits of our "leadership" will be the end of the human race along with many other species.

And idiots on these sites call Harper a leader.

Yeah, he'll lead us to perdition like his buddy George.

These idiots just don't understand what a real leader for today's world should look like.

They are stuck back on the question about creationism still, and have all the eggs in oil burning baskets. Leadership should not remain stagnant.

Everything about a true conservative is that they are always stagnant in every aspect of their nature, and feel that they must burden the rest of the human race with their insights/ their way of doing things.

Elect whomever you want idiots it won't matter anymore, I'll smoke what I want and you can choke the planet to death. Have at her!

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#3 Jan 13, 2008
Global Issues
TheStar.com | columnists | World Bank got it right: leadership does matter

Jan 13, 2008 04:30 AM David Crane

Two key messages from the World Bank in its latest Global Economic Prospects report have important implications for Canada...
http://www.thestar.com/columnists/article/293...
siloviki

Canada

#4 Jan 13, 2008
Stocky probably ran away because he didn't want to report it right away and have to appear in court.

He was probably afraid to have to take part in his own policies.

Give it a day and that dealer probably won't be there and Stockie won't have to get involved.

They are so tough when they sit at a pulpit and preach, but when push comes to shove are 100% pussies.

As Klaus says, he didn't want to confront the beast that prohibition created.
siloviki

Canada

#5 Jan 13, 2008
I'm have federal portfolios with the RCMP and CSIS.

I'm a law and order guy.

I'll do it tomorrow.

Pansy.

Gee Stockie, you coulda cleaned up one little corner of Canada. I'm sure the cops would have swooped down on the area at your very beck and call.

Couldn't find a payphone?
Commander someone else's cellphone?
Knock on a door?
siloviki

Canada

#6 Jan 13, 2008
I like it when "spokespersons" get involved.

Well you know, technically it might not have been a drug deal.

Everyone in a park whirls on someone else asking if THEY ARE A COP....you know that reasonable doubt thing.

So we can safely conclude that the situation is murky at best.

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#7 Jan 13, 2008
A former Ontario police officer now living in B.C. says he won't testify Monday at an inquiry into allegations of a pedophile ring in Cornwall.

Perry Dunlop investigated the case but says he's lost faith in the system.(Jan. 9, 2008)

Cornwall inquiry set to resume without key witness
VIDEO: Officer won't testify at pedophile inquiry

Former police officer who investigated allegations says he won't give evidence

With a running tab of $23 million and a key witness having recanted sensational allegations of a ritualistic pedophile ring, the inquiry probing accusations of systemic sexual abuse in eastern Ontario resumes Monday...
http://www.thestar.com/News/article/293612

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#8 Jan 13, 2008
Man shot outside strip club innocent bystander...

http://www.thestar.com/News/article/293649

Handgun legally registered to one of the men charged in shooting...

http://www.thestar.com/News/article/293734
a little Nervous

Toronto, Canada

#9 Jan 13, 2008
klaus kaczor

Vancouver, Canada

#10 Jan 14, 2008
You got the point, Siloviki!

When I passed a guy pimpimg a 14 yr old about 3 yrs ago I got on the telephone within 2 minutes as any citizen who believes in that law as being ethical and important to society, enough to risk their personal comfort, would do.

I know that I had an impact because the business closed and things changed, but do you think the police can treat me fairly when it is my turn? No f*cking way!

Stockwell did nothing because like most other people in the country (70%) he doesn't really believe in the criminal law of prohibition. He just didn't think it was worth his while to risk his own comfort zone (jogging) for something he basically doesn't believe in himself.

It's a matter of a bit of humor, really nothing to worry about. Two people on the street engaged in a business deal, which would take place in a liquor store instead, if the law had any brains.

What makes it funny was the fact that the idiot who is responsible for the stupid law causing this very crime, came by.

Another thing that a perceptive person would get from this story is that just as the dealer and client will never recognizes the law no matter what "mandatory" tweaking Stocky does, so they didn't recognize the "Kapo de Tuti Kapo" of the cops. Who really gives a shat about such things on the level on which they occur? It's a quick $10. profit for "the Man," a quick story of opportunity for Stocky and nothing more matters. Even getting busted won't matter.

The last time a dealer of mine did 3 months his phone and business kept on going.(And he looked healthier when he got back from vacation.) Only true idiots believe in Prohibition.

For an intelligent observer there is always real irony in these kind of things, eh Siloviki?
siloviki

Canada

#11 Jan 14, 2008
There is irony in this, I mean with the prohibition comes violence, and seedy underworld types. And it's lucrative.

And the top cop in the land didn't want to have to deal with it.

Alcohol destroys far more lives every year with cirrhosis of the liver, vascular damage, car accidents, fetal alcohol syndrome, alcohol fueled domestic violence, job loss due to addiction, and a myriad other situations.

Does the gov't tell you you can't drink? No. They tell you to destroy your own lives at home. As long as they get their cut. The criminal code conviction for drinking and driving does ZERO for the other damaging effects alcohol has on a person. Have another drink, and watch as part of your brain shrinks or starts resembling a fungal growth.

Stockie wouldn't make a good American, he didn't shoot the dealer, and enforce what basically is an extensionary policy of the US being carried out by proxy by our conservative govts.

I'd rather have some gimp under a legalized system try to peddle some dope than some aggressive thug who has a gangland mentality.
klaus kaczor

Vancouver, Canada

#12 Jan 14, 2008
Exactly, Siloviki. All the law actually does, as I said, is that it causes a $10.00 profit to made on several levels by giving criminals a totally free market place on which to get rich and recruit more criminals, and allows stupid politicians to posture and promote an idiotic "hard-line" approach for right-wing morons to buy into.

No one actually has to do anything that might make our society safer, but everyone who participates in this lie and or is a reaction to it profits.
The criminals with money and power, the politicians with power and money, the cops with more power and more money, the lawyers with more money and more money, and the preachers with a boogie man to raise more money on, everyone does well promoting a blatant lie.

And all it in the first place is a natural state of human/ life curiosity to consume something mind altering, expanded into a huge monster by stupid laws perpetuated by stupid power hungry people for more money and power.

I'm tired of sacrificing my grand children's safety for some moralistic right-wing religious retard's fantasy of what we all should do.
siloviki

Canada

#13 Jan 14, 2008
Ever see autopsy photos of alcohol damage to the brain klaus?

I have, and when I say some look like a fungal growth, I mean it.

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#14 Jan 15, 2008
Murder suspect freed after trial wait was too long

WINNIPEG -- A Manitoba judge has released from custody a man accused of murder, saying it is taking too long to get his case to trial.

Queen's Bench Justice Albert Clearwater says he is "willing to take a chance" on David Knot.

The Crown opposed Knot's release, which had previously been denied by a different judge.

Knot, 25, was arrested last Valentine's Day after a daylong gang war in Garden Hill, Man., left an 18-year-old man dead and three others with serious injuries.

Clearwater says the violence was extreme and the result was horrific...
http://www.edmontonsun.com/News/Canada/2008/0...
klaus kaczor

Vancouver, Canada

#15 Jan 15, 2008
Canada wrote:
Murder suspect freed after trial wait was too long
WINNIPEG -- A Manitoba judge has released from custody a man accused of murder, saying it is taking too long to get his case to trial.
Queen's Bench Justice Albert Clearwater says he is "willing to take a chance" on David Knot.
The Crown opposed Knot's release, which had previously been denied by a different judge.
Knot, 25, was arrested last Valentine's Day after a daylong gang war in Garden Hill, Man., left an 18-year-old man dead and three others with serious injuries.
Clearwater says the violence was extreme and the result was horrific...
http://www.edmontonsun.com/News/Canada/2008/0...
Well, Canada, They'd be too busy chasing dangerous drug smoking people like me to look after the proper investigations of real criminals, eh?

And to think that the citizens of this country have no balls and allow such religious moralistic tripe of two bygone centuries ago imposed by a super power out of control on our society.

We allow this super power to harass our citizen's with its laws because basically we are gutless idiots who can't the reality of crime and violence that we impose on our society.

This is the direct result of prohibition and anyone who got their nose out of the bible for a moment and read the history of the 20th century they would see that what we are facing today with organized crime and violence out of contol is an exact repetition of history.

But instead of dealing in facts to make our society safer, we have a PM catering to the morons of our social troop so that he might remain in power to give us more poor leadership.

Just because the majority want someone as their leader, doesn't mean that it is the wisest choice. Remember that strong right-wing leader in the thirties? Adolf?

In this world with fast melting polar ice caps it would not be wise to be lead by a dinosaur.
siloviki

Canada

#16 Jan 15, 2008
You're free to buy cigarettes and screw up your health if you are 18 years of age. It's another nice little cash cow.

Go get hammered, smoke two packs of smokes, the gov'ts register goes chaching.

Make it the same for pot, or what the hell ever a person decides to screw their lives up with.

Take the cash out of the system, dry up the underworld. You can still have severe criminal code convictions for peddling to "youth", school zones, public areas, whatever you so desire to be "undesirable" areas.

The gov't mandates you can kill yourself with alcohol and tobacco once you reach the "legal age", just pay them to do it. You have all the freedom of choice to do that.

They should get out of the racket themselves as legalized pushers of death.
klaus kaczor

Vancouver, Canada

#17 Jan 15, 2008
Yeah, I don't even go for taxing the hell out of substances unless those funds are dedicated to the full effects society suffers from each vector.

Putting those tax revenues back into general revenue is too much like the "pusher" model, which we have today.

We'd soon suffer less from traditional problems if we didn't profit from the suffering of alcoholics, gamblers, but used the revenue to study, research, and implement the solutions which are problem specific.

That would be the model of a caring society, not BS model Harper supports.

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