Moving from West Coast to East Coast
Torn between 2 Loves

Mississauga, Canada

#22 Feb 24, 2010
Hi people, I've read this entire blog/post/forum (or whatever you call it ;-)
Interesting comments from all-- there seems to be a common theme here with the exception of a couple of retirees, most of you are young families.
I'm a single, divorced, no kids, gay, mid 40's guy from Ottawa who's thinking of doing the exact opposite and move out west! Hate the winters in Ontario and gather they're no better in the Maritimes. Have always loved Vancouver and surrounding areas- the mountains, the ocean, west coast lifestyle etc. Perhaps, it's all a mirage and life might stink once out there.. I'm just curious about people's motivation for moving. As for real estate, I know the GRV is crazy expensive but a. i wouldn't need a house- i'd be fine with a condo as life really revolves around the great outdoors there anyways. b. I've heard wonderful things about areas such as Gibsons/ Sechelt on the Sunshine Coast- housing more affordable, lots of outdoor activities opportunities... more hours of bright sunshine vs vancouver proper- low crime, slow-paced, friendly etc.
I guess my biggest motivating factor is weather. Yes, it may rain ALOT in BC, but winter temps rarely go below freezing, the plentiful rain means GREEN, GREEN and more GREEN- YEAR ROUND. Spring makes it's appearance as early as February with crocuses on their way and those beautiful cheery blossoms blooming by end of March/early April!
Unfortunately, here in Ottawa AND in the Maritimes, Spring is slow to arrive, summers are short and sticky, Fall quickly becomes Winter and winter sticks around for a very very long time... Nov- Mar- sometimes even a week or 2 in April! Anyway, I don't want to speak against the East coast as I was there for the first time Summer 2009 and had a wonderful time- YES, IT IS VERY BEAUTIFUL, the people are friendly- Halifax is a nice town, kinda reminds me a bit of a larger version of Kingston, ON. And although that is NICE, it can become boring in short order. On the other side, Vancouver appears to be more COSMOPOLITAN, a city with a definate vibe, creative energy, relaxed attitudes, ethnically diverse... in a real way it's the city of the future! Notwithstanding it's problems (ie. crime, drugs, homelessness---every major city in the world shares these same issues) it seems as rather a happening place to live.
Having said all this, the idea of Nova Scotia, even PEI seems quite alluring... what does one do??!!
Good luck to all of you, wherever your decisions may take you ;-)

Torn between 2 Loves
petrinab

Langley, Canada

#23 Feb 24, 2010
I am with you BCMommyof4 we are looking into it this year too. We are in Langley--and tired of feeling like we always have to catch up or keep up.
Love to know where you end up settling--could get together for some Alexander Keiths or something when we settle there!
petrinab

Langley, Canada

#24 Feb 24, 2010
I don't think the discussion revolves around weather as much as it does cost of living and the rat race of life--your right if you are single, no kids--then Vancouver would be great for you. I like to think of it as bloom where your planted but never forget your roots. I will miss a great many things about the west coast--but am open to change!
Torn between 2 Loves wrote:
Hi people, I've read this entire blog/post/forum (or whatever you call it ;-)
Interesting comments from all-- there seems to be a common theme here with the exception of a couple of retirees, most of you are young families.
I'm a single, divorced, no kids, gay, mid 40's guy from Ottawa who's thinking of doing the exact opposite and move out west! Hate the winters in Ontario and gather they're no better in the Maritimes. Have always loved Vancouver and surrounding areas- the mountains, the ocean, west coast lifestyle etc. Perhaps, it's all a mirage and life might stink once out there.. I'm just curious about people's motivation for moving. As for real estate, I know the GRV is crazy expensive but a. i wouldn't need a house- i'd be fine with a condo as life really revolves around the great outdoors there anyways. b. I've heard wonderful things about areas such as Gibsons/ Sechelt on the Sunshine Coast- housing more affordable, lots of outdoor activities opportunities... more hours of bright sunshine vs vancouver proper- low crime, slow-paced, friendly etc.
I guess my biggest motivating factor is weather. Yes, it may rain ALOT in BC, but winter temps rarely go below freezing, the plentiful rain means GREEN, GREEN and more GREEN- YEAR ROUND. Spring makes it's appearance as early as February with crocuses on their way and those beautiful cheery blossoms blooming by end of March/early April!
Unfortunately, here in Ottawa AND in the Maritimes, Spring is slow to arrive, summers are short and sticky, Fall quickly becomes Winter and winter sticks around for a very very long time... Nov- Mar- sometimes even a week or 2 in April! Anyway, I don't want to speak against the East coast as I was there for the first time Summer 2009 and had a wonderful time- YES, IT IS VERY BEAUTIFUL, the people are friendly- Halifax is a nice town, kinda reminds me a bit of a larger version of Kingston, ON. And although that is NICE, it can become boring in short order. On the other side, Vancouver appears to be more COSMOPOLITAN, a city with a definate vibe, creative energy, relaxed attitudes, ethnically diverse... in a real way it's the city of the future! Notwithstanding it's problems (ie. crime, drugs, homelessness---every major city in the world shares these same issues) it seems as rather a happening place to live.
Having said all this, the idea of Nova Scotia, even PEI seems quite alluring... what does one do??!!
Good luck to all of you, wherever your decisions may take you ;-)
Torn between 2 Loves

Since: Feb 10

Mississauga, Canada

#25 Feb 24, 2010
Thanks for your comments Petrinab,

I didn't realize the cost of living was so high in Langley.
And certainly from a Lifestyle standpoint, I would gather not being right in Vancouver proper that it would be more laid back like any other smaller town or bedroom community of any major city.
From a cost of living perspective, the only areas where I've noted big differences vs here (and the Maritimes) I've gathered is the cost of GAS, CAR INSURANCE AND HOME INSURANCE. All other things (ie food, clothes, entertainment etc etc) are on par with the rest of the country.
Now, going back to real estate, I agree I have a hard justifying spending $1M plus for a single family home in Vancouver- it's simply outrageous! However, being the MLS junkie that I am, I quickly realized by expanding the search to include the Tri-cities, South Surrey, Cloverdale, Langley- you could still end up with a nice place, perhaps not a single family home, but a good sized townhouse for about the same $$$ as you would spend in a similar home here in Ottawa. It's just a case in point that it comes down to what you want. For instance, if I had a wife and kids and wanted to have a nice "detached" home- I'd probably say, the heck with Vancouver- as it just isn't doeable -unless of course one's rolling in dough and even so, you'd need lots of it. But, if I didn't mind moving say 40-45 mins out of the city, then I don't know how my situation would be any different then living in say, Halifax or Moncton or Ottawa for that matter... I find many smaller communities in GRV are quite progressive and HAVE all the amenities you could ever want or need: shopping, schools, recreation... and than some!
Anyway, I'm hoping to gain some more perspective.
I've spoken to many people from all walks who live here and have moved there- people from there who have moved here, people from the Maritimes , who have lived here and have now gone back...to their roots etc.

In some ways, the old cliche applies: We always think the grasser is greener on the other side- LOL Sometimes it is, sometimes it isn't...I think in the end it comes down to one's personal style... wants... NEEDS...

Thx again for your input- it's incredible how much more clarity one can gain from these exchanges ;-)
Dmay

Kelowna, Canada

#26 Feb 27, 2010
Bc mommy of 4...i exactly know what you mean about the arrogance around here....Seems like everybody is to busy trying to outdo one another than actually care about the quality of life.We have been doing ALOT of resarch about the maritimes.Im pretty sure we are going to move there...hopfully spring of 2011.We know as long as we stay here it will always be a struggle and we will just be making it by...never will we get ahead here.Our friends say we are crazy and that we are going to regret it,but i really dont think we will.Ive actually have passed a few emails with a couple out there who moved there in 1997 from kelowna to raise their children..They have absouluty no regrets and said they would never come back to live in bc..they love it out there....They seem like great people..who from here would ever give the their time to complete strangers and give you there phone # to call to ask questions if you wanted info about there province and etc?I think it will easy to start a new life there...everybody seems so nice!I really hate to leave our family and friends...ive had a few good cries about it..and i havent even left them yet,haha!But i know i will be able to give my children so much more out there....There is so much to do and we WILL have the money to do so:)
I love street view..i have been using it quite a bit!
Good luck in what ever you do decide to do...its really nice to know that others around here feel the same way we do:)
rcmorris

Bedford, Canada

#27 Jun 11, 2010
Just another update! Small world this is!

Maria and family have purchased a home 2 doors down from our place and will be arriving in July. What are the odds! We are looking forward to meeting our "new neighbours" from home.

P. S. Still loving it here!
rcmorris

Bedford, Canada

#28 Jun 11, 2010
Just read Torn between 2 Loves comments.

As a single young man, Vancouver would definitely be a great place for you. Exciting, big, lots of people. Why not, life is too short my friend, you can always move back if you wanted to.

It's just that as a family, Vancouver is too expensive to live in. The property costs is ridiculous. The house we purchased here in Nova Scotia with an ocean view, 5 yrs old and beautiful would go for way over a million in West Vancouver. I still can't believe we are living in such a beautiful home and not just working to pay the mortgage like we did in B.C.

It's a choice of what is important in your life at this time, maybe at a later date, cost may play into it more.

Again, as I said, why not, life is too short!

That's what we said when we moved east.

Take Care.
Eldy M

Penticton, Canada

#29 Jun 16, 2010
Thanks for the feedback, we are considering exactly the same thing. Any information on the actual cost of the move(household) for that distance would also be appreciated.
rcmorris wrote:
Hi, Just a little update. We are now settled into our new home and we absolutely love it! The people are incredible here, warm, friendly and welcoming. The education system is wonderful, the teachers here actually teach as opposed to lecturing and then sending the kids home with homework. Our son loves it here as well. As someone before said, you could pretty much point a pen at the map and be happy. We have found Westwood Hills great as it is a 30 minute drive to Halifax (in what they call rush hour), yet the area is still very treed and not so congested. Beautiful, and we are close to shopping, Sobeys, Canadian Tire etc. We are one exit away from the most beautiful beach Queensland and a 10 minute drive from Peggy's Cove. We feel really safe here as well. As the properties are larger, you definitely notice when someone is coming up your drive! Well hope this helps others when making the big decision to move east. You will not be disappointed!
AnotherMorris

Ottawa, Canada

#30 Jun 23, 2010
I've found everyone's comments to be very helpful - thank you. My husband and I are 20 somethings and thinking of moving from Toronto to Nova Scotia in the next year or so as we'll be starting a family and are looking for a change and a slower pace. For those who live in NS, I'd like to get your feedback on whether there is much ethnic diversity in the province, apart from in Halifax or East Preston (not sure if statistics are giving me the right picture). We are a mixed race couple and with that recent piece in the news about the cross burning (which I'm sure does not at all reflect the attitudes of Nova Scotians as a whole) I am a little curious/concerned.
Any feedback would be appreciated.
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Canada

#31 Jun 25, 2010
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EastCoastWannabe s

Canada

#32 Jun 29, 2010
I was so happy to find this site with people much like ourselves moving or wanting to move to the East Coast. My husband & I have always wanted to live by or near the ocean but real estate here is completely out of our price range. I jokingly said to my husband 'why not check out the East Coast'knowing that the likelihood of us packing up our family of 6 & leaving my parents & siblings behind was nothing I intended to do. So more out of curiousity I started searching properties in NS & expanding into PEI. Well from the very 1st house we seen we were seriously interested. Not only was it ON the ocean but it was a beautiful character home with acerage & affordable.(a fixer upper but my husband is in construction so he was excited at all the possibilities) We continued searching & continued to find home after home that not only offered bigger homes filled with character and acerage but would also lower our debt if not completely wipe it out.When we mentioned our interest in the East to our family we heard,'why would you want to move to a place that gets winter 8 months of the year, has no job opportunities and no future for our children, it's the biggest mistake you'll make & you'll live to regret it'. Well that put a major damper on our excitement & made us think 'what were we thinking?' My husband took a new job & we continued our life here but I couldn't get all the images I had seen from our researching out of my head. One of the main reasons for our wanting to leave our home in BC is the amount of commuting my husband does each day. Depending on his job location it can be anywhere from 30 mins.-4hrs which means our children & I eat dinner alone most nites & the kids don't see him too often as he is gone before they get up in the morning & asleep before he gets home each nite. The Lower Mainland where we live has grown so much & not necessarily for the better. We have seen such an increase in crime,gangs,drugs. It's no longer shocking or uncommon to see the horrible things that go on in our world on the news at nite & realize it's happened in our own neighborhood. So I'm thinking how much more has the West Coast really got in comparison to the East Coast. If we eliminated or drastically reduced my husband's commute & we enjoyed more together,found a home in an area we could only dream about here & lower our debt as well. And hey,each winter my kids pray for a really good snowfall so the fact there's snow makes it ideal for the kids. My husband's current project is due to be finished around the end of August & we plan a trip out to get a feel for life back East. We have alot of very major decisions we need to make & we both feel if we are going to make a move we really should do it soon as our oldest is going into grade 11 & our youngest is about to start kindergarten. The kids are totally on board for the move & consider it a great big adventure that they are quite excited about. So for those of you who have been in our shoes & took the leap & you who are like us & still trying to decide whether to go or stay,we would love to get any feedback you have to offer. In the end we just want the very best for our kids & to give them a safe,happy & secure future. When all is said & done as long as we're together as a family we can make it work regardless of where we are. Best of luck to wherever each of you are at whether you've made the move or debating the move. Hope to update you with our decision soon. rcmorris: I could totally feel your excitement when you reported back that you had arrived & loved your new home! I don't know you but I was so excited and happy for you.
joanna

Halifax, Canada

#33 Jul 8, 2010
Hi,

I stumbled upon this posting and thought I would add a few comments. My husband, four children and I left the okanagan two years ago and moved to Nova Scotia. Many people thought we were crazy, but it was a great choice for us. We sold most things and bought a trailer hooking it up to our Yukon and took our time driving out here. It took ten days and we spent including buying the trailer about 12,000. We moved to Amherst which is a beautiful small town just on the New Brunswick/ Nova Scotia border. Not on the beach (about 20 minutes to many amazing North shore beaches)the town has tree lined streets of large victorian houses that would go for five times as much in the okanagan. The schools are really good, our kids are in french immersion (which can be hard to find here). Wonderful neighbours about 35 minutes to Moncton and 2 hours to Halifax. Winter is not bad at all, I don't know why it has such a bad reputation - definately worse than Vancouver but not worse than the okanagan other than spring is slow to come. Summer and Fall here is AMAZING - there are so many things to do. Amherst is very centrally located which has been great for exploring - it is only an hour to PEI. We love all the heritage, lots of museums and did I say the beaches are amazing! We visited BC last year and okanagan lake and KAL lake were VERY boring to the children. They are now spoiled! As far as work goes, I think there is work anywhere if you are willing to look for it. The pay isn't as high here, but the cost of living is a lot lower. They also have excellent telephone rates for calling family (we have unlimited calls within Canada at any time included in our package). Saying all of this, the only drawbacks are: it is a LONG way from BC and it can be hard at first not knowing anybody, spring is SLOW to come - it's not too cold, just no leaves or flowers, no fresh peaches in the summer - you don't get the great fresh fruit you get in the okanagan, and it can be very laid back and can take a while to get trades people to come and do jobs, and after two years we are still unable to get a doctor. But, there aren't very long lines in the emergency room if you need something badly. Overall we have had a good experience and the lifestyle is definately more laid back - although coming from BC I get very nervous seeing young children walking around town on their own. My kids now think I am very over protective! Good luck!
dakate

Burnaby, Canada

#34 Aug 20, 2010
My sister and I have decided to sell up and get out of BC. The biggest hurdle seems to be the reaction of the family members. The kids have grasped the concept that we're leaving, but we have one hold-out - older brother - who will not be happy for us. Let's see, why would we want to move to a beautiful province, with friendly people, houses to die for, and plenty of room to breathe. I went there last year for the express purpose of seeing if I could live there, and yessiree, I can and I will. NS we're on our way!!
Anna B

Victoria, Canada

#35 Sep 20, 2010
My husband and I have also been considering the big move to NS. We live in the "greater" Vancouver area and have been here for 5 years. It's soo expensive and people are not friendly at all. We came from a small town in the interior orignally and have lived in the Okanagan as well. Everywhere in BC that we would actually like to live, is not a possibility due to the high cost of realestate. We have been leasing farmland here to grow crops and it is extremely expensive and we will never own the land ever! We are getting more and more disappointed here everyday. We began to look at Nova Scotia's Annapolis Valley for it's climate and growing season, as we would like to continue farming. Researching the area, we have come to the conclusion that we are going to make a trip out there to check it out soon and see if it feels like home. What really draws us there is the fact we would be able to buy farm there almost debt free and have that slower paced country lifestyle. We also don't have a lot of family here anyways. We wouldn't know a soul there, but sounds like a lot of BCer's may be making to move aswell. Just going to follow this forum to see how it turns out for the rest of you:)
Anna B

Victoria, Canada

#36 Sep 20, 2010
also, we have two small children and think it would be an awesome place to raise them.
leaving BC for NS

Campbell River, Canada

#37 Jan 20, 2011
After the forestry industry has been left to die a slow death here in BC, 28 yrs in a pulp and paper mill, too young to collect a pension, divorced, only child 6 mos. from finishing college. It feels like a perfect time to start a new chapter, sell my property here, buy a beautiful home, maybe start a business (part time)
and experience a different part of our beautiful country.

I have been to NS twice in the past 5 yrs. and it just feels like the right place to hang my hat, my partner is originally from NS, his family is there, but I don't think it would matter, the people are as appealing as the fantastic scenery. I plan to have an open mind and open heart. I'm glad I found this web site, I too have been asked if I know what I am doing? Well time will tell.

(Just to let readers know, I am a woman, who worked in a male dominated work force, maybe that has helped me feel I can do this too.)
keith

Westbank, Canada

#38 Jan 27, 2011
Eldy M wrote:
Thanks for the feedback, we are considering exactly the same thing. Any information on the actual cost of the move(household) for that distance would also be appreciated.
<quoted text>
Hi,

My fiance and I currently live in Westbank, BC and we too are looking into moving out there this spring / summer 2011. My fiance's dad is a truck driver and will be coming out to get us with a 48' flat deck trailer. If you are interested in moving as well, let me know we could double up and split the gas. As it stands, we are going to pay him around $4000 for gas which is a steal in comparison to renting a uhaul $6-7k + fuel. We are heading out there later this month to look around at different neighborhoods around Halifax. I am hoping to reduce my mortgage in half or better than what I am carrying here! So far, Sackville and Dartmouth look to offer the best property / land value for us.

Anyways, let me know if you are still considering it? Maybe we could work something out :)

Keith
[email protected]
keith

Westbank, Canada

#39 Jan 27, 2011
Dmay wrote:
Bc mommy of 4...i exactly know what you mean about the arrogance around here....Seems like everybody is to busy trying to outdo one another than actually care about the quality of life.We have been doing ALOT of resarch about the maritimes.Im pretty sure we are going to move there...hopfully spring of 2011.We know as long as we stay here it will always be a struggle and we will just be making it by...never will we get ahead here.Our friends say we are crazy and that we are going to regret it,but i really dont think we will.Ive actually have passed a few emails with a couple out there who moved there in 1997 from kelowna to raise their children..They have absouluty no regrets and said they would never come back to live in bc..they love it out there....They seem like great people..who from here would ever give the their time to complete strangers and give you there phone # to call to ask questions if you wanted info about there province and etc?I think it will easy to start a new life there...everybody seems so nice!I really hate to leave our family and friends...ive had a few good cries about it..and i havent even left them yet,haha!But i know i will be able to give my children so much more out there....There is so much to do and we WILL have the money to do so:)
I love street view..i have been using it quite a bit!
Good luck in what ever you do decide to do...its really nice to know that others around here feel the same way we do:)
Looks like we are on the same page for moving, are you interested in exchanging emails / a coffee to talk about moving east? We live in Westbank (Glenrosa) and would love to connect with others of the same mindset. My fiance is from there (Antigonish) and just completed her Masters in Ocean fisheries / resource management and is eager to get of the Okanagan (not alot of work in that area:) We are going to Halifax on February 16th 2011 for 2 weeks to check out neighborhoods and get a feel for the area...could look at some places you are interested in as well if you like?

Email me at: [email protected] if you get a chance:) Would be great to share resources!

Thanks
Torn between 2 loves

Canada

#40 Jan 27, 2011
It's funny-- we've become such a transient society-- everybody moving from place to place looking for that next to perfect spot to call home etc... ;-) The martimes are beautiful for sure but, as it's turning out, my vote goes to BC. Vancouver is awesome and the scenery up the coast and beyond is nothing short of SPECTACULAR. Life on the lower mainland is LIVED very much outdoors... because of its milder climate- not some in eastern ontario or anywhere in the maritmes. As for people who say it's too expensive, it truly depends what you want! Sure enuf a single family home is simply not doeable in the GRV anymore however, some really nice communities of townhomes can be found anywhere ie. South Surrey/Port Coquitlam- tri-cities, White Rock and provided you don't have to commute to downtown yvr - they're some really great buys there for under $350,000. Halifax is becoming less affordable just over the last few years- a decent house in a great neighbourhood could set you back nearly as much as some burb' in greater vancouver. This being said, I'm excited for those of you who are embarking on this journey. That's what life's all about- all the best to all and your families! Keep us posted - ciao ;-)
BC2NS

Surrey, Canada

#41 Apr 21, 2011
Dmay wrote:
Bc mommy of 4...i exactly know what you mean about the arrogance around here....Seems like everybody is to busy trying to outdo one another than actually care about the quality of life.We have been doing ALOT of resarch about the maritimes.Im pretty sure we are going to move there...hopfully spring of 2011.We know as long as we stay here it will always be a struggle and we will just be making it by...never will we get ahead here.Our friends say we are crazy and that we are going to regret it,but i really dont think we will.Ive actually have passed a few emails with a couple out there who moved there in 1997 from kelowna to raise their children..They have absouluty no regrets and said they would never come back to live in bc..they love it out there....They seem like great people..who from here would ever give the their time to complete strangers and give you there phone # to call to ask questions if you wanted info about there province and etc?I think it will easy to start a new life there...everybody seems so nice!I really hate to leave our family and friends...ive had a few good cries about it..and i havent even left them yet,haha!But i know i will be able to give my children so much more out there....There is so much to do and we WILL have the money to do so:)
I love street view..i have been using it quite a bit!
Good luck in what ever you do decide to do...its really nice to know that others around here feel the same way we do:)
Are you still looking at moving now? YOu said hopefully Spring 2011, we may be moving in the middle of may, so if you are maybe you would be open to sharing moving ideas with us.

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