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Maureen Gilbey
Sarnia, Canada
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Atheist: one who believes that there is no deity Diety:1 a: the rank or essential nature of a god : divinity capitalized : god 1 , supreme being 2: a god or goddess <the deities of ancient Greece> 3: one exalted or revered as supremely good or powerful Agnostic:1: a person who holds the view that any ultimate reality (as God) is unknown and probably unknowable ; broadly : one who is not committed to believing in either the existence or the nonexistence of God or a god 2: a person unwilling to commit to an opinion about something <political agnostics. I am a Christian and I am proud to say Jesus Christ is my Lord and Saviour. Here are my thoughts on this. If an Atheist doesn't believe in God does he/she have anything to actually discuss? Why are they so upset about "Nothing" How does one talk about Nothing? An agnostic well at least they believe in something. They may not call it God but with an agnostic there is hope. As for the churches out there,What would Christ do? Would He start an uprising over this or would He turn the other cheek? Perhaps he would just say to these folks, Get behind me Satan. Religous leaders, we do not have to defend Christ,He is much bigger than you and I.He's got this one covered,however we can pray for the lost. Yes they are lost. How do I know this? Look what they are doing? They are looking for attention beit good or bad. Don't encourage them. Would a parent encourage bad behaviour? Remember God is our Father By any chance did anyone notice the sign said "Probably No God" It didn't say there was NO God. which leads me to ask is there really Atheists? Make up your mind so called Atheist is it No or Probably. Leaders of the churches remember God gives us Free Will. This includes "Atheist" We chose Life they chose "probably" nothingness. Christians of all religions lay down your sword of anger that is not of God and sing out loud the praises of God.
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“The first free-roaming Oracle”
Since: Sep 08
Vancouger
ISP:
Vancouver, Canada
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why must we try to open a discussion? Because the world is full of confused brainwashed belligerent hateful arrogant self righteous Christians that need to be saved from themselves as well as the world from them.
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jim319
Toronto, Canada
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I think everyone is missing the real issue here. Why do muslims riot/kill over cartoons...but when it comes to white people spitting in the face of Allah ("God" in Arabic)the are invisible, impotent, cowards...that's the REAL issue.
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“Continually Updated from Net”
Since: Jan 07
A PBS place in an MTV world
ISP:
Toronto, Canada
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thank you Maureen for the definitions as we read http://www.topix.net/ca/belleville-on/2009/01 about the problems directly in your area & as Jim319 says, try to balance which troubles are the most important each day http://www.occupation101.com/
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Skeptic
UK
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Maureen Gilbey wrote: Atheist: one who believes that there is no deity Diety:1 a: the rank or essential nature of a god : divinity capitalized : god 1 , supreme being 2: a god or goddess <the deities of ancient Greece> 3: one exalted or revered as supremely good or powerful Agnostic:1: a person who holds the view that any ultimate reality (as God) is unknown and probably unknowable ; broadly : one who is not committed to believing in either the existence or the nonexistence of God or a god 2: a person unwilling to commit to an opinion about something <political agnostics. I am a Christian and I am proud to say Jesus Christ is my Lord and Saviour. Here are my thoughts on this. If an Atheist doesn't believe in God does he/she have anything to actually discuss? Why are they so upset about "Nothing" How does one talk about Nothing? An agnostic well at least they believe in something. They may not call it God but with an agnostic there is hope. As for the churches out there,What would Christ do? Would He start an uprising over this or would He turn the other cheek? Perhaps he would just say to these folks, Get behind me Satan. Religous leaders, we do not have to defend Christ,He is much bigger than you and I.He's got this one covered,however we can pray for the lost. Yes they are lost. How do I know this? Look what they are doing? They are looking for attention beit good or bad. Don't encourage them. Would a parent encourage bad behaviour? Remember God is our Father By any chance did anyone notice the sign said "Probably No God" It didn't say there was NO God. which leads me to ask is there really Atheists? Make up your mind so called Atheist is it No or Probably. Leaders of the churches remember God gives us Free Will. This includes "Atheist" We chose Life they chose "probably" nothingness. Christians of all religions lay down your sword of anger that is not of God and sing out loud the praises of God. There's no such thing as god and there never has been. You believe in god because you believe shit that other people told you which brainwashed you emotionally to believe and fear it. People have lived and died without being brainwashed like you so for you to claim that your personal brand of god is real is a f*** joke. Most atheists are intelligent people who question their environment and want to discover REALITY not a fiction. What would you say to a kid who bows down and touches his feet every single day for no good reason when he could be getting up and doing something useful? Believers are a waste of their own space on this planet. But theyre not content with they're own stupidity are they? They have to spread their bullshit morality and beliefs to innocent bystanders too. That's why they should all fuck off.
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shadow
Laurinburg, NC
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what a good way to use money. every 15 seconds a child dies in africa. every 30 seconds one dies from malaria how about trying to stop THAT?
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Since: Aug 08
Stowe, VT
ISP:
Williston, VT
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Maureen Gilbey wrote: Atheist: one who believes that there is no deity Slight correction. An atheist simply has an absence of belief due to the absence of evidence. You have an absence of belief in invisible pink unicorns. Maureen Gilbey wrote: Agnostic:1: a person who holds the view that any ultimate reality (as God) is unknown and probably unknowable ; Actually, an agnostic can be a devout believer or a confirmed atheist as well. The agnostic position is an intellectual, philosophical position on the nature of knowledge, not confusion over one's beliefs or logic. Maureen Gilbey wrote: Here are my thoughts on this. If an Atheist doesn't believe in God does he/she have anything to actually discuss? Why are they so upset about "Nothing" How does one talk about Nothing? Do you actually believe the opposite of belief in a god is belief in NOTHING? Does it not occur to you that an atheist may be intellectually curious about believers thoughts and reasons for belief? Maureen Gilbey wrote: An agnostic well at least they believe in something. They may not call it God but with an agnostic there is hope. What do agnostics believe in? Why is there hope? Why is the hope that they become believers "better" than the hope that they use reason to reject imaginary gods? Maureen Gilbey wrote: By any chance did anyone notice the sign said "Probably No God" It didn't say there was NO God. It was either to conform with advertising regulations or to appease fearful christians. Maureen Gilbey wrote: which leads me to ask is there really Atheists? Make up your mind so called Atheist is it No or Probably. Easy. There is categorically no objective evidence for any gods or goddesses. Anywhere. Ever. Maureen Gilbey wrote: This includes "Atheist" We chose Life they chose "probably" nothingness. Are you channeling Sartre now?
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shadow
Laurinburg, NC
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Skeptic wrote: <quoted text> There's no such thing as god and there never has been. You believe in god because you believe shit that other people told you which brainwashed you emotionally to believe and fear it. People have lived and died without being brainwashed like you so for you to claim that your personal brand of god is real is a f*** joke. Most atheists are intelligent people who question their environment and want to discover REALITY not a fiction. What would you say to a kid who bows down and touches his feet every single day for no good reason when he could be getting up and doing something useful? Believers are a waste of their own space on this planet. But theyre not content with they're own stupidity are they? They have to spread their bullshit morality and beliefs to innocent bystanders too. That's why they should all fuck off. you sure do put yourself above people dont you?
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“The first free-roaming Oracle”
Since: Sep 08
Vancouger
ISP:
Vancouver, Canada
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shadow wrote: <quoted text> you sure do put yourself above people dont you? No it is you believing idiots that put themselves above people. You harass people who wish to make their own choices even if the law allows it. Abortion, gay marriage. It has always been the Christians, believers of all stripes, the self righteous, who base their attitude on fiction and fantasy. It is these creeps, popes and perverted pedophile criminals who have throughout the ages oppressed non believers even torturing and killing them, even until today. So fack off you morons. Your time is running out with your hysterical fantasies bullshit "do good" stuff so that you can infiltrate your lies into every situation. Who the fack are you to tell us where to spend our money? Oh, because you believe in a bullshit god, you are now his right hand man able to tell everyone what to do. I see. Gods*ckers every last one.
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Cliff Sewell
Oyama, Canada
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Why don't the so called christens then sell the trillions of $ in property their churches own and end world hunger.
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paul shykora arts
Calgary, Canada
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budoracle......has made some very good...pointers',here.....eh..
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shadow
Lumberton, NC
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budoracle wrote: <quoted text> No it is you believing idiots that put themselves above people. You harass people who wish to make their own choices even if the law allows it. Abortion, gay marriage. It has always been the Christians, believers of all stripes, the self righteous, who base their attitude on fiction and fantasy. It is these creeps, popes and perverted pedophile criminals who have throughout the ages oppressed non believers even torturing and killing them, even until today. So fack off you morons. Your time is running out with your hysterical fantasies bullshit "do good" stuff so that you can infiltrate your lies into every situation. Who the fack are you to tell us where to spend our money? Oh, because you believe in a bullshit god, you are now his right hand man able to tell everyone what to do. I see. Gods*ckers every last one. so you think all christains are the same?
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shadow
Lumberton, NC
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Cliff Sewell wrote: Why don't the so called christens then sell the trillions of $ in property their churches own and end world hunger. you do have a point.
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shadow
Lumberton, NC
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paul shykora arts wrote: budoracle......has made some very good...pointers',here.....eh.. yeah he does have some points on some things with the torture and all but just as all atheist arent the same neither are christians. i dont like to hurt people i dont like to see others suffer were all only human though when i see things like torture death even when your a christian its hard. seeing things like they are right now it makes you lose faith in humans. because you think how could someone do something like that to someone else. a creture that can get enjoyment out of the suffering of others. it messes with your head its like when your a child and that day comes when your parents tell you what the world is REALLY like. it bothers you....only human though only human.. and besides if you knew everything about the world you whould go insane.
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“Really? Really?”
Since: Apr 08
G'View
ISP:
Wheeling, IL
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Maureen Gilbey wrote: I am a Christian and I am proud to say Jesus Christ is my Lord and Saviour. Here are my thoughts on this. If an Atheist doesn't believe in God does he/she have anything to actually discuss? Why are they so upset about "Nothing" How does one talk about Nothing? I usually save this question for later, but I'm going to have to bring it out now - are you really this dim? Or are you being obtuse on purpose? Atheists don't talk about "nothing", the talk about how the concept of Religion and God do not make sense to them. How they have not seen any evidence that supports the idea of an invisible Supreme Being that consciously controls the fate of the Universe. I agree that they shouldn't get so upset when discussing it, but at the same time neither should the religious man. Being Atheist is not a personal attack on what you believe (and when it is, it's wrong), so let them live their lives. Maureen Gilbey wrote: An agnostic well at least they believe in something. They may not call it God but with an agnostic there is hope. 1. An Agnostic doesn't believe in anything. An Agnostic, makes no statements, takes no stand. Atheists believe that there is no God. Theists belive there is. Agnostics believe nothing. 2. "...there is hope." Hope of what, exactly? That they'll come rushing back to the saving arms of the Church? I understand the concept of Faith and that, for many, they cannot fathom living any other way. But it's not necessarily "good" if an Agnostic makes a stand on the side of God. Just as it's not necessarily "bad" if they go full Atheist. It's a belief. Understand these three things: 1. Atheists do not preach Evil 2. Satanists do not preach Evil 3. Theists do not always preach Good Maureen Gilbey wrote: As for the churches out there,What would Christ do? Would He start an uprising over this or would He turn the other cheek? Perhaps he would just say to these folks, Get behind me Satan. Religous leaders, we do not have to defend Christ,He is much bigger than you and I.He's got this one covered,however we can pray for the lost. Yes they are lost. How do I know this? This should be precious... Maureen Gilbey wrote: Look what they are doing? They are looking for attention beit good or bad. Don't encourage them. Maybe they're looking to advertise for their product. You know, like the CHURCH does. I've seen billboards all over that advertise for a specific congregation, pro-life advocacy and even just God himself. Those without sin and all that, love. Maureen Gilbey wrote: Would a parent encourage bad behaviour? If they're a bad parent. Which, if you continue the anology, the Church is. It has condoned some of the most reprehensible behavior that the World has ever seen. Maureen Gilbey wrote: Remember God is our Father To you. Not to an Atheist. Or Bhuddist. Or Taoist... Maureen Gilbey wrote: By any chance did anyone notice the sign said "Probably No God" It didn't say there was NO God. which leads me to ask is there really Atheists? Make up your mind so called Atheist is it No or Probably. It's an AD CAMPAIGN. It's meant to make others think. As someone raised with the Church, I understand why you didn't understand that. Being a Christian follower, you're probably not familiar with the concept of people being encouraged to think. It's okay, I'm here for you. Maureen Gilbey wrote: Leaders of the churches remember God gives us Free Will. This includes "Atheist" We chose Life they chose "probably" nothingness. Christians of all religions lay down your sword of anger that is not of God and sing out loud the praises of God. Well this is the smartest thing you've said all day. And that's right, sing out loud the praises of God. Just like the Atheists will sing out loud the concepts of there being no God.
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Reason
Elmsdale, Canada
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In halifax,Nova Scotia, our (alleged) transit system just refused these ads as offensive. If anybody ever wonders why educated youth leave here in droves you don't have to look too much farther than that. Dear Maureen, nothing is funnier than a christian trying to make a rational argument for religion, keep it up, we need a laugh in depressing times.
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“The Second Coming of Jeebus”
Since: Jan 08
Quito, Ecuador
ISP:
Chicago, IL
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shadow wrote: what a good way to use money. every 15 seconds a child dies in africa. every 30 seconds one dies from malaria how about trying to stop THAT? Think about how many mosquito nets the average catholic molestation settlement would buy.
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“The first free-roaming Oracle”
Since: Sep 08
Vancouger
ISP:
Vancouver, Canada
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shadow wrote: <quoted text> so you think all christains are the same? No I don't, but they tend to start from the same point of delusion.
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Reason
Elmsdale, Canada
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Judged:
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shadow wrote: "what a good way to use money. every 15 seconds a child dies in africa. every 30 seconds one dies from malaria how about trying to stop THAT?" I notice you did not mention AIDS, perhaps you know about the Catholic church's position on condoms. Let me quote Jomo Kenyatta "When the Missionaries arrived, the Africans had the Land and the Missionaries had the Bible. They taught how to pray with our eyes closed. When we opened them, they had the land and we had the Bible". Perhaps if you want to do intellectual battle with Athiests, Africa probably is not where you want the argument to go. Don't even get me started on your 'World Vision' types and the damage they cause.
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“The first free-roaming Oracle”
Since: Sep 08
Vancouger
ISP:
Vancouver, Canada
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Judged:
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Those that feel they are superior due to their belief in god are true sheep, blissful in their ignorance. They are fundamentally so ignorant, that they can't see that fraud on behalf of supporting their god doesn't make him stronger, but brings his weakness down to that of the dumb believer's. Many times has a judge commented in court on the propensity of Christians to lie and spread hatred on behalf of the control which they attempt to force on others in the name of their god, by enacting it into secular laws. Religion dulls the mind, not marijuana! Anyone equipped with normal powers of reason and uninfluenced by the idiocy of belief, reading these exchanges would plainly see the truth in this statement.
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