cr england total scam
Down with CrEngland

United States

#125 Feb 22, 2012
These effing trannies are there to eff you and that's all. 6 months of getting effed only to leave with a bad record that they created. Crengland is just as at fault as equinox for the effing. Their faze 2 trainers have all been effed into the lease and they are out to get you so you get effed like them. Crengland is in this for the money and to prevent or slow down your careers. By keeping our checks at 0-150 they enslave us for 6 months minimum and use the excuse is that they are giving us experience. Its just an excuse to hold you down with your face in their fecal matter. Try your best at other companies and don't let the nanobots make you say or do something to get you fired...
MIKE

United States

#126 Feb 22, 2012
It is unfortunate you have been unable to make the lease program work for you. I don't believe the trainers are out to get you. England is a business. Their goal is to earn as much money as possible. Period. Keep this in mind as you go to other companies and you will learn that for the most part they are the same. SOS-DD. If one thinks as an employee then the lease is not going to work. Become England in your own way and you will find the going a bit easier.
Truck Mut

United States

#127 Feb 23, 2012
Do u have to have a mullet to work for CrEngland serious question too
RUDY

United States

#128 Feb 23, 2012
England ruin my life!...I was on the road so much, only home 3or 4 days out of the mnth, not making decent ends. My wife left me took our kids with her got with some guy that was a crystal meth dealer. Now when I see my children they call me by my 1st name, I can't this anymore. There were days I jus wanted to end it all.
Tommy

United States

#129 Mar 11, 2012
Not a driver wrote:
I was a vedor for CR England, which means my services were needed by them to operate. I paid several visits to Salt Lake City and got to know several of the insiders, decision makers, VPs of this and that, etc. They are crooked. They are scam artists. The openly comment/brag about how they are able to make money from drivers that are losing everything. Making money is fine, as long as the drivers are making money as well. But, the executives at CRE are knowingly making huge profits while a majority of the drivers suffer. I ended my contract them and feel much better about myself for not having to deal with them. Although I am giving up $35-$40K in gross profit by not working with them, I am working with several other ethical trucking companies and the difference in operations is night and day. Again, CR England is crooked, stay away and move on to an ethical organization.
Everyone is wondering which companies are ethical, treat their drivers fairly. Please list some good companies.
Door Slammer

Ottawa, Canada

#130 Mar 13, 2012
Bests place I everzed worked , nice RED truck , lots of miles.

You has to work hard , driv many miles a wk to makes $.
mememe

Silver City, NM

#131 Mar 14, 2012
My husband was told they would waive tuition provided he signed a 6 month contract and left immediately for CDL school. Despite providing a note from my neurologist saying that I have a brain injury and need occasional help approximately once every two weeks for a day or so to help me with basic things like getting groceries, or testing my cognitive function with a mini mental state exam to make sure I am not slipping. I live about three blocks away from my inlaws, and 110 miles away from my neuologist. My inlaws help me out as much as they can, but they can't improve my memory, or speed up my reflexes, or make it so I don't trip over myself and crack my head open for the umpteenth time. They are uneducated, and have quite a bit of trouble understanding the basics of TBI. My husband, when home, usually helps make sure the freezer is full, fixes whatever is broken, and arranges for someone to help me get places (I can't drive due to the injury) The biggest issue I have is really horrible reflexes. If you throw a ball at me, it will hit me in the face before I can make a move to catch it or get out of the way. I also have trouble remembering things like my address or phone number. He discussed this with the recruiter, provided the necessary paperwork, and was told that it would not be a problem, since CR England is supposedly a family oriented company. I personally work from home for a local newspaper, have two college degrees, in science, graduated with honours, despite my brain injury. My husband has one degree. We are hardly lazy, unprofessional, or whiney.
Since he is doing his on the job training, he is being paid $61.43 gross. This, with 20 hours a day drive time, works out to $3.07 per hour, well below federal minimum wage requirements.
Combine this with the violation of his contract regarding the waiver of his student loans in exchange for six months work, his paycheque for the last week was a miserable $255.
He has not taken any advances on his cheque, has not leased a truck, and the only withholdings should have been his taxes/medicare/social security. Yet, they somehow found something to deduct.
I seriously question the legality of this pay structure.
My advice? Don't waste your time and savings on this company. Only the very stupid, or the very naive would vouch for them.
Coal Train

Wheaton, IL

#132 Mar 17, 2012
mememe wrote:
My husband was told they would waive tuition provided he signed a 6 month contract and left immediately for CDL school. Despite providing a note from my neurologist saying that I have a brain injury and need occasional help approximately once every two weeks for a day or so to help me with basic things like getting groceries, or testing my cognitive function with a mini mental state exam to make sure I am not slipping. I live about three blocks away from my inlaws, and 110 miles away from my neuologist. My inlaws help me out as much as they can, but they can't improve my memory, or speed up my reflexes, or make it so I don't trip over myself and crack my head open for the umpteenth time. They are uneducated, and have quite a bit of trouble understanding the basics of TBI. My husband, when home, usually helps make sure the freezer is full, fixes whatever is broken, and arranges for someone to help me get places (I can't drive due to the injury) The biggest issue I have is really horrible reflexes. If you throw a ball at me, it will hit me in the face before I can make a move to catch it or get out of the way. I also have trouble remembering things like my address or phone number. He discussed this with the recruiter, provided the necessary paperwork, and was told that it would not be a problem, since CR England is supposedly a family oriented company. I personally work from home for a local newspaper, have two college degrees, in science, graduated with honours, despite my brain injury. My husband has one degree. We are hardly lazy, unprofessional, or whiney.
Since he is doing his on the job training, he is being paid $61.43 gross. This, with 20 hours a day drive time, works out to $3.07 per hour, well below federal minimum wage requirements.
Combine this with the violation of his contract regarding the waiver of his student loans in exchange for six months work, his paycheque for the last week was a miserable $255.
He has not taken any advances on his cheque, has not leased a truck, and the only withholdings should have been his taxes/medicare/social security. Yet, they somehow found something to deduct.
I seriously question the legality of this pay structure.
My advice? Don't waste your time and savings on this company. Only the very stupid, or the very naive would vouch for them.
Interstate truck drivers are specifically excluded from the minimum wage law. Unless the law is changed this sort of abuse of drivers will continue. It is unlikely to ever be changed. Also, if he needs to be home regularly,long haul trucking is the wrong job for him. Fast food would be a better choice. He would make more money and be at home every day.
right wing willy

United States

#133 Apr 4, 2012
liberal democrat wrote:
<quoted text>
hey mr know it all bad boy, did your mother not teach you any better, saying all of those dirty words? you have a dirty mouth. i dont like dirty mouth truckers.
yeah well CR England has been nothing but perfect for me and I agree...if you don't make it here its because you're not willing to do the foot work and looking for a hand out like a liberal does...and houndog I've known lots of lease purchase drivers that come out on top...2 in my own family ...bottom line is you get out what ya put in...just like anything else...vote him out Nov 2012..peace
Iceman

United States

#134 Jun 14, 2012
How bad is cr England I'm reading two diff sides
Mary

United States

#135 Jun 17, 2012
dexter wrote:
I need someone's anyone's opinion :should I attend truckdriving school at cr england's expence?
Definitely! It doesnt take long and u CAN make good money in the longrun

“Life is just a Moment, njoy it”

Since: Jan 07

Nekoosa, Wisconsin

#136 Jun 17, 2012
“Just last week I read a recruiting ad that claimed that team drivers could make $100,000”, commented Desiree Wood.‘Could’ is the operative word I suppose but in reality the context of the ad was to mislead. The ad was for a lease program which depicted 2 people at a carrier known for extremely low pay to drivers but their recruiting ads tell a different story. The ad does not say what costs will be paid back to the carrier from the gross “could make” amount, if the lease payment is based on both people ...(driving)... or other hidden charges. This is a carrier that should be training candidates to become qualified drivers but instead they are selling trucks to people who know very little about what the trucking industry is really all about profit.

Drivers are bombarded with less than accurate information and this lack of respect is a contributor to industry burnout among qualified candidates hoping to make truck driving a career. There are many qualified men and women in the trucking industry already that remain at poor paying carriers until they burn out simply because they cannot trust carriers to deliver the pay or benefits they advertise...

It is stressful to be away from family support, work long unpaid hours in extreme weather conditions and have to share difficult living situations while having to adjust to odd sleep schedules. When candidates are recruited into truck driving, frequently they are unaware of all of these factors, nor (are they aware)... that they will be expected to drive 11 hours per day on top of the unpaid labor they have performed.

Turnover benefits certain people in the trucking industry. Unethical lease programs in training, targeting recruitment at folks who are not ‘qualified’ truck driving candidates, running team freight with two poorly experienced and compensated drivers; these are profit strategies at some carriers.
“A proper pre-trip should take 15 -30 minutes, depending on the equipment.

“Pay for a student truck driver is extremely low but because this is not clarified in the recruitment process, it becomes a major contributor to turnover in the first few months of entering the industry. While one may expect low wages for entry level work, truck driving requires.

“Another recent pay scale change that was sent to me outlined how 6 month student truck drivers, who have been expected to drive as a team, would be receiving a pay increase of .02 cpm with much fanfare in the memo. This is a carrier that has very low pay in the industry and cut wages in 2008 by .03 cpm. While the memo is written with a level of excitement that drivers will be receiving a pay increase, the wages still do not restore 2008 levels. Experienced drivers at this carrier are only restored .01 cpm and the memo goes on to say that $700/per week gross is guaranteed with a stipulation that the driver must be available to work each day, Monday thru Sunday of that week, and must check in with their fleet manager each day to verify.

(A driver can make)...$700 per week gross, all things being perfect for a job that requires 11 hours of driving per day...(This includes)... the 2012 pay increase that this carrier feels drivers should be jumping for joy to receive. That wage calculates out at $9.09 per hour but in a seven day work week a driver could not legally drive 77 hours. It also does not account for waiting times at shippers, inspections, drop/hook of trailers, searching for trailers, cleaning trailers etc....

Misleading pay increases, bonus ploys, recruiting ads, added regulations, unpaid wait times, they are all contributors to industry burnout and turnover. Would this recipe not eliminate ‘qualified’ persons from an industry and leave room for more ‘unqualified’?
The current state of truck driving requires candidates to live on such meager wages that they may not be able to afford much more than food, a cell phone bill and send a few bucks home in the first 6 months in the industry”.

“Life is just a Moment, njoy it”

Since: Jan 07

Nekoosa, Wisconsin

#137 Jun 17, 2012
Iceman wrote:
How bad is cr England I'm reading two diff sides
If you really want to know, call OOIDA; you can google them, OOIDA, O I DA is how it's pronounce.

Alot of these dispatchers and recruiters don't want you anywhere near OOIDA......LOL.

Remember they collect a Bonus for getting you to sign-up and complete orientation so they'll say anything to sucker you in.
bill

Lanham, MD

#138 Jun 28, 2012
i was unlucky enough to cross paths with a drunk driver who crossed over into my lane following company policy i had to make a choice not to run over the ford ranger i protected cr from a wrongful death suit and they fired me while i was in the hosiptol they threw me to the dogs because of them i having trouble getting a job stay away far far far away from england i didnt take any stock in the stoiers until it happen to me
pat

Tulsa, OK

#139 Jul 11, 2012
Excuse me to all of the ignorant assholes who are actually sticking up for a scam like cr england. Let me tell you i really dont appreciate your failure to comprehend what is going on here. Making fun of these guys who have lost everything and who were brain washed into this industry only to fail because cr england makes damn sure you dont know whats going on. Shut your mouth and have some respect and maybe a little sympathy for these guys..To cr england you are just another peice of shit and they could care less. Im a cr england right now. I am leasing a truck. I knew it was going to be hard but they sugar coat the hell out of it. Now i have a degree in sales management and my father has been a sucessful owner operator for years and i know where the money is. However with england you cant make it solo. They will starve you of miles to get you to team so they make more money. And if you are going to team you might as well train to make more money. Which ive done and ohh yaay i can make 1200 a week or 1500 a week as a trainer and these fucks think this is good pay??? No! I will enlighten you all here. An owner operator should be making a minimum 1500 a week or more solo! Of course you must manage your fuel other expenses but that should be a number to realistically take home after you maintence account and tax accounts and road expenses. My father makes about 2500 a week. England didnt tell me that on top of the 490 a week truck payment and 200 insurance and 50 for permits and stuff, that they take an extra .14 cents a mile outta your check which adds up to almost as much as your other expenses. And even if you team or train its still taken out for every mile you drive. So to all the bone heads on here that cant see what this all is, i kindly say go F yourself. Bc us guys who crunch numbers and do what it takes to make a lousy check should be making 100 grand a year. They rob us.
friend

Florissant, CO

#140 Jul 26, 2012
Dave wrote:
BTW I appreciate blogs like this. I am learning that leasing is not going to be for me, for a long time anyway.Looking forward to more good tips. Any ideas for a guy fresh outta school?
Buy a cheap tractor.....I payed 14,500 for mine, have had to put another 6 grand in it over the past year but lease on to a flatbed company if you are in good shape...I'm making 5 grand a week after fuel. No other way I know of to make this kind of money.
No company out there. Or go to williston, Nd and make 120k a year as a truck driver....look on the net...most pay 30 an hour for 70 hours a week...super busy place but winter is hell.
hi drivers name misti

United States

#141 Aug 2, 2012
I need to know where can I go for training and get paid while I train get a desent pay check and not get played I have my cdls I worked for Rta transit in Dayton for 12 years please tell me a good school my email is [email protected].....
Valley California

Hanford, CA

#142 Aug 15, 2012
My husband just started with CR England..he is in phase 1 but we are having a difficult time with direct desposit. He does not want to lease any trucks, he wants to drive for the company. He wants to stay with the company between 6 months to a 1yr. He wants he's exper. However, I am reading horrible blogs about this company. What is so bad? and what is so good about CR England. I have research this company serveal times, this was the only one who would accept him because we did not have money for another company. I hope someone will type me back! Thanks.
Charles

Shipman, VA

#143 Aug 17, 2012
Bobby wrote:
I will add too, that reading most of these posts and the horrible English, spelling, punctuation, grammar, foul language in your messages (and NOT proofreading what you write!) that is does not surprise me one bit that you feel "screwed". You come across as "victims" of the world and I'm sure this goes far beyond your experiences with trucking companies. Maybe if you take the time to go through your contracts and paperwork and what is expected of you as well as try your best to make your best impression on others, your lives just might be better. Also, how many of you put more commitment into your trashy tattoos and piercings, etc., looking like circus clowns and low lives than you do into what is really important in life? Just something to think about...
Yes, Bobby, because you are such an expert at punctuation. You didn't proof read your own post.
Lorena

Walla Walla, WA

#144 Aug 30, 2012
dexter wrote:
I need someone's anyone's opinion :should I attend truckdriving school at cr england's expence?
My advice is don't attend their training. My husband is currently there and they have a lot of issues. They just fired half their trainers and find reason's to get rid of 80% of their students. My husband is coming home tomorrow soon as I can get get the money to him just to get home. They waited until today to say they needed additional paperwork that he would have to get from the military and gave him two days to get it to them. Yep weekend falls in that time and he isn't going to be able while sitting there to get the information. Put you out with no way to even get home. Failed to tell him he would need this information before he went. We are looking at what it will take to sue them.

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