your jobs will be lost to mexican truck drivers

[cactus]

Are any of you truckers concerned about losing your jobs.
If you are unaware of what's happening to your country and in turn your jobs, read the following:
Shipping-Corridor Deal Cuts Heart Out of Heartland
by Phyllis Schlafly
Posted Aug 07, 2006
The plan, shrouded in secrecy, has been in the works for at least three years, but it is now coming to light because of the diligent use of Missouri's Sunshine law by concerned citizens. Joyce Mucci and Francis Semler forced the release of the e-mails from Kansas City to Mexico, including one admitting that "The space (in Kansas City) would need to be designated as Mexican sovereign territory."
SmartPort representatives are now running away from this written admission, blaming "the problems and pressure the media attention has created." However, the stubborn sovereignty issue won't go away; the plan does involve setting up Mexican customs officials in downtown Kansas City.
The mechanism for this deal is a "nonprofit" business economic development corporation called Kansas City SmartPort Inc., whose president is Chris J.F. Gutierrez. The deal calls for Kansas City to lease the valuable property at 1447 Liberty St.
As laid out on SmartPort's Web site, the plan is to enable products made in China to travel in sealed "containers nonstop from the Far East by way of Mexico," through "a ships-to-rail terminal at the port of Lazaro Cardenas, Mexico," then up "the evolving trade corridor" to Kansas City, Mo., where they would have their first inspection.
A Kansas City SmartPort brochure explains further: "Kansas City offers the opportunity for sealed cargo containers to travel to Mexican port cities with virtually no border delays."
A key purpose of the project is to take jobs away from U.S. longshoremen in Los Angeles and Long Beach, Calif., who earn $140,000 a year, and replace them with Mexican laborers at $10,000 a year. U.S. truck drivers and railroad workers will likewise be replaced by Mexicans.
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php...

[US TRUCKERS WIFE]

I am a wife of a truck driver. He is our soul provider for our family. If the Mexico truck drivers have cross On to the United soil. ALL of the Truck divers who are trying to make a living for their families will suffer. this is just not a fear for the owner operators it is a fear for ALL companies. I just heard about this on June 17th of 2007. Is it too much to ask for support from all truckers? to help me stand for what Is rightfully ours?
this is what I fear what will happen if this bill is passed.
1. ALL US TRUCK Drivers will loose their jobs to Mexico. We will all be in the poor house. Unemployment will skyrocket with in a six months.
2.Illegal drugs trafficking will quadruple in this time frame.
3. illegal immigrants will be out of control.
Please help me stop this from happening.

[TANGLEFOOT]

US TRUCKERS WIFE wrote:

I am a wife of a truck driver. He is our soul provider for our family. If the Mexico truck drivers have cross On to the United soil. ALL of the Truck divers who are trying to make a living for their families will suffer. this is just not a fear for the owner operators it is a fear for ALL companies. I just heard about this on June 17th of 2007. Is it too much to ask for support from all truckers? to help me stand for what Is rightfully ours?
this is what I fear what will happen if this bill is passed.
1. ALL US TRUCK Drivers will loose their jobs to Mexico. We will all be in the poor house. Unemployment will skyrocket with in a six months.
2.Illegal drugs trafficking will quadruple in this time frame.
3. illegal immigrants will be out of control.
Please help me stop this from happening.

It's too late it's already happening. It's an employer's market.
They are getting away with it very sneaky, the mexicans and other foreiners are more qualified in the employer's eyes because they have 'High School diplomas' Yes there are trucking companies starting to require a high school diploma or GED too drive a truck for them. So if you don't have either one then look out soon you will be replaced. How much you want too bet, that the test we take is much different from theirs?? I'll bet you a $1000.00 it's different. So let's start there!!!

[TANGLEFOOT]

US TRUCKERS WIFE wrote:

I am a wife of a truck driver. He is our soul provider for our family. If the Mexico truck drivers have cross On to the United soil. ALL of the Truck divers who are trying to make a living for their families will suffer. this is just not a fear for the owner operators it is a fear for ALL companies. I just heard about this on June 17th of 2007. Is it too much to ask for support from all truckers? to help me stand for what Is rightfully ours?
this is what I fear what will happen if this bill is passed.
1. ALL US TRUCK Drivers will loose their jobs to Mexico. We will all be in the poor house. Unemployment will skyrocket with in a six months.
2.Illegal drugs trafficking will quadruple in this time frame.
3. illegal immigrants will be out of control.
Please help me stop this from happening.

Illegal drugs? That's not the illegals fault, that's the US governments fault for letting it all happen.
After the big wigs get their share, then they step in and bust the little guy, whooo how heroic..After the immigrants recieve their 'CITIZENSHIP' they also recieve their "HIGH SCHOOL DIPLOMA", which makes them qualified over an American worker who doesn't have one.

[TANGLEFOOT]

cactus wrote:

Are any of you truckers concerned about losing your jobs.
If you are unaware of what's happening to your country and in turn your jobs, read the following:
Shipping-Corridor Deal Cuts Heart Out of Heartland
by Phyllis Schlafly
Posted Aug 07, 2006
The plan, shrouded in secrecy, has been in the works for at least three years, but it is now coming to light because of the diligent use of Missouri's Sunshine law by concerned citizens. Joyce Mucci and Francis Semler forced the release of the e-mails from Kansas City to Mexico, including one admitting that "The space (in Kansas City) would need to be designated as Mexican sovereign territory."
SmartPort representatives are now running away from this written admission, blaming "the problems and pressure the media attention has created." However, the stubborn sovereignty issue won't go away; the plan does involve setting up Mexican customs officials in downtown Kansas City.
The mechanism for this deal is a "nonprofit" business economic development corporation called Kansas City SmartPort Inc., whose president is Chris J.F. Gutierrez. The deal calls for Kansas City to lease the valuable property at 1447 Liberty St.
As laid out on SmartPort's Web site, the plan is to enable products made in China to travel in sealed "containers nonstop from the Far East by way of Mexico," through "a ships-to-rail terminal at the port of Lazaro Cardenas, Mexico," then up "the evolving trade corridor" to Kansas City, Mo., where they would have their first inspection.
A Kansas City SmartPort brochure explains further: "Kansas City offers the opportunity for sealed cargo containers to travel to Mexican port cities with virtually no border delays."
A key purpose of the project is to take jobs away from U.S. longshoremen in Los Angeles and Long Beach, Calif., who earn $140,000 a year, and replace them with Mexican laborers at $10,000 a year. U.S. truck drivers and railroad workers will likewise be replaced by Mexicans.
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php...

Do you have you 'High School Diploma' or GED?

[TANGLEFOOT]

Your, oops typo

[Long Haul Driver]

Tanglefoot Wrote:
"It's too late it's already happening. It's an employer's market.
They are getting away with it very sneaky, the mexicans and other foreiners are more qualified in the employer's eyes because they have 'High School diplomas' Yes there are trucking companies starting to require a high school diploma or GED too drive a truck for them. So if you don't have either one then look out soon you will be replaced. How much you want too bet, that the test we take is much different from theirs?? I'll bet you a $1000.00 it's different. So let's start there!!"
The military has required a Diploma or GED for 10 years now.states won't hire with one either.you can't get a federal job without a GED or Diploma.having an education IE a Diploma or GED driving a truck should be a requirement these days(not saying fire the old timers the built the trucking industry. but theres too many stupid,non-reading,non-underst anding drivers that have no clue how to do a logbook,figure out a bridge formula or can't figure out how high thier truck is.

[TANGLEFOOT]

Long Haul Driver wrote:

Tanglefoot Wrote:
"It's too late it's already happening. It's an employer's market.
They are getting away with it very sneaky, the mexicans and other foreiners are more qualified in the employer's eyes because they have 'High School diplomas' Yes there are trucking companies starting to require a high school diploma or GED too drive a truck for them. So if you don't have either one then look out soon you will be replaced. How much you want too bet, that the test we take is much different from theirs?? I'll bet you a $1000.00 it's different. So let's start there!!"
The military has required a Diploma or GED for 10 years now.states won't hire with one either.you can't get a federal job without a GED or Diploma.having an education IE a Diploma or GED driving a truck should be a requirement these days(not saying fire the old timers the built the trucking industry. but theres too many stupid,non-reading,non-underst anding drivers that have no clue how to do a logbook,figure out a bridge formula or can't figure out how high thier truck is.

Long Haul, what does having a 'High School Diploma' have to do with driving a truck?? The two has as much to do with one another as a 'hot dog' and a warm puppy....You have to have common sense to drive a truck also 'Confidence' and courage to make fast discisions, So with that being said, Isn't requiring a 'High school diploma for a Unskilled Labor position
is just a way for an employer to pick and choose who they want to hire??? WOULDN"T YOU SAY? C'MON
The most 'Dummist' Stupidest people I come in contact
with are educated college people, check out the service you get at the next 'Pilot" or TA' you stop at all College People pissed off at the world because they're doing unskilled labor and working with 'SLAMMY' truck drivers. Watch the way they put your stuff in a bag that you had to ask for; don't you wanna just Knock the living crapp out of them?
So stupid, and you want to put their dumasses in trucks because they have a diploma??
Long Haul you might be a Corporate enemy among us.
I be watching you.

[Long Haul Driver]

"Long Haul, what does having a 'High School Diploma' have to do with driving a truck?? The two has as much to do with one another as a 'hot dog' and a warm puppy....You have to have common sense to drive a truck also 'Confidence' and courage to make fast discisions, So with that being said, Isn't requiring a 'High school diploma for a Unskilled Labor position"

you consider Driving Tractor Trailer a NONSKILLED labor??? then I Hope You Don't Drive a Truck..If Your Not Smart Enough To Fill Out A log Book,Do Bridge Formulas,Or Figure out How To figure Out If Your OverWeight On Which Axel..Having A Diploma Doesn't make You Smart But Does Give You The Skills To Help You figure These Things Out.

Tanglefoot Wrote: "It's too late it's already happening. It's an employer's market."

Its Not An Employers Market,If You Have a Clean Record With No Major Violations It's Still A Drivers Market. There Are Trucking Companies On The East Coast That Are Begging To Get Drivers Because There Is A Shortage Of Good Drivers. If You Have A Class a License with A Clean Record Its Like A Visa Gold Card Out Here.

AS FOR YOUR Statement: "Long Haul you might be a Corporate enemy among us.I be watching you."

AND AS FOR ME: I Have Been In The Trucking Industry 16 Years, And An O/O For The Last 10 Years. I Have 11 Years Running Household For United Van Lines and North American Van Lines And The Last 5 Years Running Containers Out Of The Ports And RailYards.

[TANGLEFOOT]

Long Haul Driver wrote:

"Long Haul, what does having a 'High School Diploma' have to do with driving a truck?? The two has as much to do with one another as a 'hot dog' and a warm puppy....You have to have common sense to drive a truck also 'Confidence' and courage to make fast discisions, So with that being said, Isn't requiring a 'High school diploma for a Unskilled Labor position"
you consider Driving Tractor Trailer a NONSKILLED labor??? then I Hope You Don't Drive a Truck..If Your Not Smart Enough To Fill Out A log Book,Do Bridge Formulas,Or Figure out How To figure Out If Your OverWeight On Which Axel..Having A Diploma Doesn't make You Smart But Does Give You The Skills To Help You figure These Things Out.
Tanglefoot Wrote: "It's too late it's already happening. It's an employer's market."
Its Not An Employers Market,If You Have a Clean Record With No Major Violations It's Still A Drivers Market. There Are Trucking Companies On The East Coast That Are Begging To Get Drivers Because There Is A Shortage Of Good Drivers. If You Have A Class a License with A Clean Record Its Like A Visa Gold Card Out Here.
AS FOR YOUR Statement: "Long Haul you might be a Corporate enemy among us.I be watching you."
AND AS FOR ME: I Have Been In The Trucking Industry 16 Years, And An O/O For The Last 10 Years. I Have 11 Years Running Household For United Van Lines and North American Van Lines And The Last 5 Years Running Containers Out Of The Ports And RailYards.

I can feel your pain Long Haul. Bedbugging can be rough because of the help you have to hire, and have the bastards in the truck with you. I love pulling containers, but the greedy bastards have the trucks priced so high I can't afford a truck, It's ridicules what the price these trucks at. A 2005 Coronado 268000 miles Cromed out,$97000 they wanted in Kansas city Freightliner for 60 months, I said go F--k yourself!! And if you go to selectruck same deal
but you will get a 2002 508000 miles 22000 finance charges total cost $68.000.00 ARE YOU KIDDIN ME?
It's obvious these programs are not setup for American drivers, But the forein drivers are going for these deals by the hour. We won't even talk about Lease Purchase.

[Long Haul Driver]

TANGLEFOOT wrote:

<quoted text>I can feel your pain Long Haul. Bedbugging can be rough because of the help you have to hire, and have the bastards in the truck with you. I love pulling containers, but the greedy bastards have the trucks priced so high I can't afford a truck, It's ridicules what the price these trucks at. A 2005 Coronado 268000 miles Cromed out,$97000 they wanted in Kansas city Freightliner for 60 months, I said go F--k yourself!! And if you go to selectruck same deal
but you will get a 2002 508000 miles 22000 finance charges total cost $68.000.00 ARE YOU KIDDIN ME?
It's obvious these programs are not setup for American drivers, But the forein drivers are going for these deals by the hour. We won't even talk about Lease Purchase.

go with a lease purchase deal with a good company..I know companies like JEVIC TRANSPORTATION had a great deal going with thier O/O'S doing a lease purchase paying it off in 3 to 5 years depending on your running style. they make it work so both you and the company can make money...they as a company understand who keeps them in buisness. and do alot to keep the drivers happy and making money..they also have a very low turnover rate.

[TANGLEFOOT]

I went to 'Jevic's' Orientation 3 years ago and quit after orientation, They were too Corporate vs drivers for me. Man Long Haul there is no such thing as a good lease Purchase plan; good companies do not lease their equipment too their drivers and have the drivers paying all their bills instead of making money for him and his family.
Why go into something where you're making weekly payments?? They say ; well it's easier for the driver, BULLSHITTE' that's just away to get more money out of the driver. Then they balloon the downpayment at the end of the lease which they never talk about except they say NO MONEY DOWN, but at the end of the lease for you to own that truck you will have to pay $40000 to $60000 dollars....Plus did you go over the mileage cap, probably Yes.
Now here's where all your profit will go, Right into the Fuel Tank,$50000 to $55000 for one year just in Diesel Fuel, now add $26000 for truckpayments for the year, add the two together=$81000.00 now add cargo insurance,bobtail insurance,$550.00 for the IRS Tax, Maintence, Road expenses, Tolls, Lumpers, Log book violations, what's left?
about $6000.00 for you? WRONG, You have to file your taxes Quarterly right? That's 4 times a year, Now how much do you have?
Should I go on? These types of programs are not set-up for us, they are for the Forieners,
drivers who need a home, they can live in the truck, and for the X-CONS!!

[Long Haul Driver]

ok when did you go through Jevic...if you went 1995 through 2001 those were the owned by Yellow Freight years in which they lost a good portion of thier good drivers when Yellow took them union. in 2001 the founder of Jevec bought it back from Yellow after they finished trashing the company. the drivers voted out the union and returned it nonunion. I personnally know 7 drivers that went the lease purchase route through Jevec and they all gave it top marks.

[TANGLEFOOT]

Long Haul Driver wrote:

ok when did you go through Jevic...if you went 1995 through 2001 those were the owned by Yellow Freight years in which they lost a good portion of thier good drivers when Yellow took them union. in 2001 the founder of Jevec bought it back from Yellow after they finished trashing the company. the drivers voted out the union and returned it nonunion. I personnally know 7 drivers that went the lease purchase route through Jevec and they all gave it top marks.

Contact those 7 drivers and have them post how good it is, I sure would like too see it. If they still have the trucks under that lease purchase program.

[connie from ca]

to all this may concern... I disagree with your comment, i know we are having problems with the economy and gas prices and everything else; i find it very unfair to blame the mexican truck drivers for all the lost jobs. i believe that you are a good employee and are willing to pick up every load that is given to you this should not affect you. i believe all races not only mexicans contribute in the transporting business. it is a fair game for everyone, just because your white they are required to give you a job.... i don't think so !!!!!

[Tuvok]

connie from ca wrote:

to all this may concern... I disagree with your comment, i know we are having problems with the economy and gas prices and everything else; i find it very unfair to blame the mexican truck drivers for all the lost jobs. i believe that you are a good employee and are willing to pick up every load that is given to you this should not affect you. i believe all races not only mexicans contribute in the transporting business. it is a fair game for everyone, just because your white they are required to give you a job.... i don't think so !!!!!

Your wrong here Unless Mexican drivers have been to school here in the U.S. and have bought there trucks here and maintain there driver licence and American Insurance here in the U.S. also follow the same rules,then they are not on equal ground. Also to haul Haz mat. We have to have a criminal back ground check on American Drivers now, DO they?( most likey no). Those trucks that come across the border are worthless and there licence do not and are not on the same playing ground. If they kill someone in the traffic accident here in the U.S. they can run back to Mexico and We ( they U.S Goverment) can not get them and hold them accountable for what they did. Also if they do not have American Insurance trying to collect from a company in a different country is and will be a joke.. How do I know??? Been there done that before when I lived in El Paso Tx. So your comment on a FAIR GAME IS A JOKE needless to say..

[Oscar from Texas]

I find this all so ludicrous that so many are worried that Mexicans who come here to deliver stuff for Company X (which some American drivers also work for) will take their jobs. The employer is there to make money and will pick the best driver who is more educated <--Key word here--<< as he is the best candidate. Hell, I hear so many uncouth, ignorant and downright stupid people on the radio bitching about the Mexicans coming here yet they can't tell you how many stripes (of each color) are on that American flag that they so mightily wave. Nor can they tell you what those colors stand for. Posers! Must speak English here...Why?? What makes English so great coming from such ignorant persons? They still can't communicate ideas any better than cavemen grunting to each other! They do not know their own American history yet they claim to be superior to all in the world. Better not only over the Mexicans which,by the way, some are not. But hey, if it has brown skin, he MUST be Mexican. Quit your bellyaching and incessant bitching! I tell you what...GET A DIPLOMA! GET A COLLEGE DEGREE!! Become more of an asset to your prospective employer! Become wiser than those Mexicans you put down and see that the employers don't care who you are or where you are from as long as you make the bottom line bigger. THATS what is important to them. BTW, American truck drivers (or anyone) will just as quickly try to bring in drugs as anyone else. If the money is right. That is such a stupid comment as guns causing crime in the hands of lawful persons ( I.E. the police)! If you lose your job, its your own fault. YOU let it happen. You are the one thats uneducated and only YOU can change that.

[Bruce]

In a few years all of you will be talking the same old crap,and mexicans will have your trucks and homes,and you still will not have a clue,it is all very simple park them now and fight or starve with your familys.Get on the radio shut them down now.

[throbak]

No one is taking my home.

No one is taking my job.

I won't let them - I don't think I'm powerless and I don't live paycheck to paycheck.

I also don't think my destiny is controlled by a customs office in Kansas City.

If your "career" and your accumulated wealth is threatened by a non-English speaker who's only "skill" is holding a greasy steering wheel, quit now.

Indeed, go back to school, or finish it to begin with. Get a college degree. Study science, or mathematics. It's not that hard, non-English speakers are doing it everyday in greater number than Americans.

Honestly, how many immigrants or Citizens aspire to drive a truck? Most people want better out of life, even the people who end up as drivers, hence the constant complaining and victim attitude.

Do something about yourself. Something positive.

[metoo2009]

Not a truck driver, but I've been following this North American Union stuff for a while now. I think it's still off of most Americans radar. And the powers-that-be want to keep it that way. You have to admit that it's pretty crafty and sly of them - the way they are going about this I mean.
I've always thought that "there goes the last of the "good-ol-boy" jobs". Jobs that pay good money but you really don't have to have much of an education, or really care about it. Most of the factory and industrial jobs like that are gone already. Trucking is next. If any of you truck drivers out there have kids, tell them to stay in school and get an education - preferably in something that can't be outsourced like medical care, etc. Employers don't want to pay big bucks for jobs where you need a strong back or hold a steering wheel and that's it. Why pay an American trucker 80 to 100 K a year when a (insert foreign national here) will do it for less than half of that money? This all has been going on for a long time now and by the time the general public is aware of it, it will already be a done deal.