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topshelf

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#21
Dec 28, 2006
 
depends on what you did at that previous employer,abandoment of a truck you will never find another trucking job,now if you rolled a truck or have tickets over 15 mph over speed limit on your license will make things tougher,punching out your dispatch isn't a smart thing either,certain things the trucking industry not going to put up with,it depends on what happen at the previuos employer
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#22
Dec 28, 2006
 
As far as truckers going on strike dont think you'll ever see that happen,not in todays wolrd,besides there different opinions a driver living in the hills taking home 500$ a week is great money,to me taking home less than a 1000$ i'm going to find a job somewhere else,its going to take something major to happen to make these guys go on strike,but what i like to see is union not for pay but for our benefits were all companies goto to the same place,just think of the great rates we could get on health insurance,401k so no matter if you switch jobs,which happens alot in the trucking industry,your retirement and benefits will always stay intact,at least that will be a start.
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#23
Dec 28, 2006
 
Something major is happening in the trucking industry right now "SPEED LIMITERS" NOT BECAUSE OF SAFETY ISSUES OR ENVIROMENTAL ISSUES EITHER!A select group of big companies belonging to so called trucking associations are trying to force limiters on everybody!Why because the poor little cry babies can't find enough drivers to drive their governed trucks so they cry to Washington or Ottawa.Instead of digging in their own pockets and raising rates and drivers wages and beneifits they are trying to force a dictatorship on the rest of us.The new HOS service is another good example cut them back on their hours but don't pay them more,heaven fobid the boss many not be able to buy that new beamer or mercedes if we pay them more.
Gary

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#24
Dec 29, 2006
 
Topshelf,
if a driver abandons a truck because he was left sitting, and not paid for loads then he or she had a good reason for doing so. It's unfair that a company can black ball you for doing this when you have a valid reason.
Most people don't understand that they do have right's when this happens. make the complaint through the FTC, and file suit for slander........My god dont just stand there and not punch back.
topshelf

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#25
Jan 21, 2007
 
Personally,I dont there is a driver shortage,these trucking companys would like us to believe that,they keep ramming it down our throats,If there was a shortage we be getting payed more and they try to hold onto drivers.With the revolving door drivers coming and going theres no way of knowing for sure.So they use this as an excuse when protesters like P.A.T.T. and so many others try for stricter regulations and less hours,they tell them we dont have enough drivers you cant cut hours no frieght will get through,Since the new H.O.S I got more hours than i ever had,Mr ceo don't want hours cut,we'll want want more money for less work he'll have to take a cut in pay,you can't believe what you read in trucking mags or brochures trucking industry pays for advertising there not going to cut off the hand that feeds them.In my opinion i think its all B.S. but its just my opinion

“Ain't That A.”

Since: Dec 06

San Marcos, Texas.

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Jan 21, 2007
 
I posted this on the other thread and I did not get even one reply.

Drivers

There is no shortage of CDL drivers. The driver pool is adequate to move the nationís freight. Most trucking companies would disagree with this statement because they are only looking at their picture and not the big picture.

Many companies need more drivers to replace the oneís that have left and to build up excess drivers to increase their share of the available freight market. An empty truck (no driver) does not mean a driver shortage exist, even if every company has empty trucks. Each company simply wants a larger piece of the pie, or needs to hire replacements for the driver turnover (mostly caused by mistreating drivers.)

Would you walk by an office, see a few empty desks and declare a secretary shortage even though all the office work was being completed? Would you drive by a heavy equipment storage lot and declare a shortage of heavy equipment operators just because some equipment was sitting there idle? I would guess probably not, or not without first considering the actual supply and demand.

Then why does this misconception keep going on? Well, a projected shortage or a spot shortage definition might be a better explanation. If a driver shortage really exists, freight would start to back-up in factories and warehouses, then delivery dates would be extended and some commodities could spoil or miss sell dates. If the situation persists, freight prices would increase to reflect the heavier demand on the current supply. Then driver pay and benefits would also increase, this would bring back drivers that have left the industry for better jobs and intensify new driver efforts of schools and recruiters.

This (similar event in other occupations) happens all over America all the time. However, in most cases, a spot shortage exists and the jobs are temporarily filled with college students, retirees, illegal aliens, and an influx of legal aliens from poor countries. When these people pour in to fill a temporary or a spot shortage, they act as a buffer and cause the price of labor to stay on the floor. This situation in turn gives management a tool to manipulate the labor market.

These cheap, quick-fix labor arrangements do not work for CDL drivers because they must pass a D.O.T. physical, drug screen, state CDL test, company driving test, and other requirements. All of this in turn takes a lot of time and all of these cost must be passed on to a customer who is not willing to pay extra.(Not willing to pay as long as the freight is being moved at the floor price.)

The transportation industry has no clout with the government even though it is one of the most essential elements of our free enterprise system. Our politicians are for sale, but the transportation industry cannot figure out how to throw their pennies into the Washington wishing well; and instead would holler the wolf is at the door, please feel sorry for me and make this situation what I want it to be. All the while they are building new corporate headquarter buildings, new driver management terminals and buying new trucks and trailers by the thousands. Go Figure.

“Ain't That A.”

Since: Dec 06

San Marcos, Texas.

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Jan 21, 2007
 
And I can add to this, that if you believe any article that says there is a CDL driver shortage, then you really are a "dumb truck driver."

And the day is coming when the Mexicans will cross the border by the thousands to fill this "so called shortage" and they will think ten cents a mile is big pay.
Roger C

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Jan 21, 2007
 
Gary wrote:
JJ has some good points. One problem we have is that so many of the bad things that are happening are happening at once. When you have all these frustrating things going on at one time our nature tends to have us take the path of less resistance.
Imagine if you will some of the positive changes we need, and how they would affect us.
1. Government regulations requiring companies to pay a driver that a dispatcher has left sitting in a truck stop for several days.(at least $75.00 a day plus expenses)
2. Government regulations requiring companies to advise a driver of the exact amount he/she would be paid for any load.
3. Government regulations requiring companies to pay drivers over-time after 40 hours in a week for all driving, and on duty time.
4. Government regulations requiring companies to reimburse drivers for reasonable meal and other over the road expenses.
5. Government regulations requiring companies to pay a driver for all actual time worked, loaded or empty.
6. Government regulations requiring states to impose a scan system on all trucks as they go through the scales to insure that driver logs are in compliance.( this would stop companies having their drivers driving over the allowed time)
7. Government regulations requiring companies to install qual-quam type systems in all trucks, and all communications between the dispatcher and driver are documented for legal purposes.
8. Government regulations requiring companies, or recruiters to make all job offers to drivers in writing, and to be specific regarding all work to be performed and what compensation the driver will receive.
These changes are needed to insure our well being as profesional drivers, and for the over all safety of everyone using our highways.
Truckes, like this bozo, are already paid way too much. I doubt he can even fill out a log book our do a proper re-trip. If he wants a 40 hr. per week job then he should get in some other line line of work so his expertise will be noticed, like fast food. I guess if you live in california too long, you see things in a perverted way, must be the smog. The thing that is wrong with truck drivers who think like he does is that they really don't want to work, don't have any pride in what they do, and are looking for that almighty Government handout that ends up costing all consumers more money. Wake up Dumbass!
Dave Redmond

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#29
Feb 22, 2007
 
Ther souuld be a Grace Period for all drivers who are hired by Trucking companies and the DAC Report.
Once a driver finds that he was lied to by the company he should be able to walk out and the company can not file any information on DAC.
shiela towns

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#30
Feb 23, 2007
 
Shame wrote:
And I can add to this, that if you believe any article that says there is a CDL driver shortage, then you really are a "dumb truck driver."
And the day is coming when the Mexicans will cross the border by the thousands to fill this "so called shortage" and they will think ten cents a mile is big pay.
thats all you road hog deserve is ten cents... you wreck the hi ways,pay nothing to fix it and think you own it.... a little manners boys!!

“Ain't That A.”

Since: Dec 06

San Marcos, Texas.

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#31
Feb 23, 2007
 
shiela towns wrote:
<quoted text>thats all you road hog deserve is ten cents... you wreck the hi ways,pay nothing to fix it and think you own it.... a little manners boys!!
I understand your frustration, but the average truck pays over $1,200 a month highway fuel taxes and $800 a month in insurance. A small fleet of 2,000 trucks can pay well over $4,000,000. What your real question may be is, "Where does all this money go???"

“Ain't That A.”

Since: Dec 06

San Marcos, Texas.

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Feb 23, 2007
 
Dave Redmond wrote:
Ther souuld be a Grace Period for all drivers who are hired by Trucking companies and the DAC Report.
Once a driver finds that he was lied to by the company he should be able to walk out and the company can not file any information on DAC.
The DAC report is a tattletale agency created to make trucking companies instantly feel safe about a new prospective driver, and with a 100% turnover rate, this is a valuable service to the trucking company.

The main problem with DAC is that all the information is one way, that means there is no driver input and the driver does not get a copy of the inputs unless it is specifically requested and paid for by the driver.

I worked for one company and had a minor parking lot accident. The company told me that as long as I worked for them, that they would not put it on my record, but if I left, they would report it. This is a form of intimidation and makes you a slave to a bad company or fleet manager just to keep your record clean.

Trucking is the on the bottom of the ocean floor and it got there because nobody cares about the driver and is only concerned about $$$$$>

“Ain't That A.”

Since: Dec 06

San Marcos, Texas.

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#33
Feb 23, 2007
 
Gary wrote:
JJ has some good points. One problem we have is that so many of the bad things that are happening are happening at once. When you have all these frustrating things going on at one time our nature tends to have us take the path of less resistance.
Imagine if you will some of the positive changes we need, and how they would affect us.
1. Government regulations requiring companies to pay a driver that a dispatcher has left sitting in a truck stop for several days.(at least $75.00 a day plus expenses)
2. Government regulations requiring companies to advise a driver of the exact amount he/she would be paid for any load.
3. Government regulations requiring companies to pay drivers over-time after 40 hours in a week for all driving, and on duty time.
4. Government regulations requiring companies to reimburse drivers for reasonable meal and other over the road expenses.
5. Government regulations requiring companies to pay a driver for all actual time worked, loaded or empty.
6. Government regulations requiring states to impose a scan system on all trucks as they go through the scales to insure that driver logs are in compliance.( this would stop companies having their drivers driving over the allowed time)
7. Government regulations requiring companies to install qual-quam type systems in all trucks, and all communications between the dispatcher and driver are documented for legal purposes.
8. Government regulations requiring companies, or recruiters to make all job offers to drivers in writing, and to be specific regarding all work to be performed and what compensation the driver will receive.
These changes are needed to insure our well being as profesional drivers, and for the over all safety of everyone using our highways.
This is where the first riot should have been, when the truck drivers were left out of the Fair Labor Act of 1939.

Who left them out and how much money was paid under the table to crooked politicians?

Why leave them out? They are working American citizens and deserve the same rights as others?

Why can't the problems be identified and fixed instead of more laws and regulations being aimed at the driver?

“Ain't That A.”

Since: Dec 06

San Marcos, Texas.

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#34
Feb 23, 2007
 
Want to know the most ridiculous law I have heard yet?

A trucker runs 11 hours of driving. The state he stops in for a 10 hour break has a law that he can only idle for 10 minutes at a time and it is 100 degrees.

Do you think a driver can get enough rest in a 120 degree truck cab to finish the run?

All these dumb-ass lawmakers assume drivers are at home every night just like they are.
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Feb 25, 2007
 
i have been thinking about trying to drive, kids gone, wifes ok with it, i earn 15.50 after going to school and work in a labratory in hosp. friend tells me to get hired (maybe schneider) then do 1 year then dont owe them anything, look for local company he does quite well, home on weekends.
thanks for any advise.

“Ain't That A.”

Since: Dec 06

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Feb 26, 2007
 
boatman_59 wrote:
i have been thinking about trying to drive, kids gone, wifes ok with it, i earn 15.50 after going to school and work in a labratory in hosp. friend tells me to get hired (maybe schneider) then do 1 year then dont owe them anything, look for local company he does quite well, home on weekends.
thanks for any advise.
Schneider just had 700 drivers quit last month. I think they have a total of 13,000. You will have about as much rights there as a piss ant in a flood. Stay as far away from trucking as you possibly can even if it means going homeless.

This industry deserves no new people other than illegals looking for a sweat shop on wheels.
Stuart

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Feb 26, 2007
 
I know it may be off topic and I apologize, but what would you say to an English truck driver who wants move to the US,and find work over there? i see a lot of adverts for driving jobs and they look very well paid but its done differently over here and its a big step. I'd appreciate any advice, Thanks

“Ain't That A.”

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Feb 26, 2007
 
Stuart wrote:
I know it may be off topic and I apologize, but what would you say to an English truck driver who wants move to the US,and find work over there? i see a lot of adverts for driving jobs and they look very well paid but its done differently over here and its a big step. I'd appreciate any advice, Thanks
I spent 2 years in England at RAF Bentwaters and I still have good memories of my time there. Changing countries is a big step and there are so many laws in American trucking, you would have to go to school and start from scratch. I knew 2 drivers from Germany (man and wife) that hooked up with Covenant and did just that, but I never heard from them again...

The best advice I can give you is to ask yourself why all the ads are in the paper and why they seem to pay so much money. My best year of trucking as a solo driver paid only $36,000 and I was away from home 28 days a month. In some runs, to load and unload and reload, it was common to put in a 20 hour work day and flag the log book as "rested." It was down to this, either lie or let someone else come in and get your load. With all considered, my best pay averaged about $2.75 an hour, but there were so many hours and none of them were at home or where I could get a good meal and a shower. Ask yourself this, "Why would a company have a 110% turnover rate if they pay all that money?"

Good luck, I would not tell you but fish and chips salesman may be better job in long run.

“Ain't That A.”

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Feb 26, 2007
 
Stuart wrote:
I know it may be off topic and I apologize, but what would you say to an English truck driver who wants move to the US,and find work over there? i see a lot of adverts for driving jobs and they look very well paid but its done differently over here and its a big step. I'd appreciate any advice, Thanks
I don't know how old you are but Bentwaters was near Woodbridge, North East of Ipswich.
Stuart

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Feb 26, 2007
 
i know it quite well ,i know it was supposed to have had a very well known UFO sighting there in the early 80's, but thats another matter.

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