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I-270/Rt. 23 reconstruction OK'd | The Columbus Dispatch

There are 46 comments on the Columbus Dispatch story from Jul 19, 2011, titled I-270/Rt. 23 reconstruction OK'd | The Columbus Dispatch. In it, Columbus Dispatch reports that:

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yep

Powell, OH

#1 Jul 19, 2011
they done good on the cell phone vote.
Chuck

Columbus, OH

#2 Jul 19, 2011
What happens at rush hour when the traffic waiting at the new red lights back up on 270??? The fact is that poor zoning/development decisions for 25+ years caused the traffic problem along Rt. 23 and there have been piece-meal solutions for the problem for years. This is just more of the same.
Commuter

Chillicothe, OH

#5 Jul 19, 2011
I'm not sure how this new configuration will help the 315 merging issue. My guess is that this wlil make it worse.
wumpon

Columbus, OH

#6 Jul 19, 2011
Cell phone bans are anti-business and make your city look like some kooks from Berkeley - I am glad they rejected it.
wumpon

Columbus, OH

#7 Jul 19, 2011
Commuter wrote:
I'm not sure how this new configuration will help the 315 merging issue. My guess is that this wlil make it worse.
No, it will be much better. Go to the ODOT sight and look at the map before commenting. Can you imagine it being much worse? I hate dopey posters.
Vinny

Columbus, OH

#8 Jul 19, 2011
Bravo for them not passing the cell phone ban, it's too harsh. It also does not reduce the bigger issue of distracted driving as a whole.

There are a lot of other things in cars beyond phones that cause stupid accidents. I think the folks doing anything other than driving or operating without their full focus on the road are the ones they need to go after.

I do talk and drive some, but I pick where I do it and in town and in traffic is a place I try to avoid whenever possible. But regardless, driving is always my #1 priority.
Dan Gleesack

Columbus, OH

#9 Jul 19, 2011
"Both Rts. 315 and 23 are patrolled by Worthington police and have a major influence on future development of the city."

That's bull-hockey. If I was a Worthington resident, I would be outraged over this fact. Both of these routes are under the jurisdiction of the Ohio State Highway Patrol and they do a fine job of patrolling it. The only reason Worthington police are out there is to collect revenue. They should be patrolling the streets of Worthington, serving and protecting the taxpayers that pay their salaries.

“Sadly it is what it is.”

Since: Nov 09

Toonville

#10 Jul 19, 2011
What about the cluster duck where 315/270/23 come together?
Thinker

United States

#11 Jul 19, 2011
'In the other issue before the City Council last night, several residents spoke in favor of Norstrom's proposal to ban driving while talking on a hand-held phone.

"There is not one single rational, moral reason for not passing this," said John Warton, a resident and former prosecutor.

"If you don't do this, you have got to have the honesty to look yourself in the mirror and say,'I just gave someone the opportunity to kill a child.'

Really? Talking on a phone give people the opportunity to kill children? Isn't that that a little over the top?!?!
Check the Map

United States

#12 Jul 19, 2011
Just wanted to point out to the Dispatch that the map showing the new design has two errors in it -- the arrows in the interior clover "leafs" should be orange, not red, and should be going the other direction. To do what the arrows say, cars would have to be driving the wrong way on 270--that is, eastbound in the westbound lane, and westbound in the eastbound lane. The interior circles should be for entering the interstate, not exiting it.

Bill

United States

#13 Jul 19, 2011
wumpon wrote:
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No, it will be much better. Go to the ODOT sight and look at the map before commenting. Can you imagine it being much worse? I hate dopey posters.
The Dispatch never does a very good job of explaining roadway improvements.

But what they're planning at 270/315/23 is on par with the work involved with the 70/71 split.
Bob

Dublin, OH

#14 Jul 19, 2011
I will never talk on the phone in North Outerbelt rush hour traffic. It's too dangerous.

I feel free to talk on the phone in light city traffic, or while sitting stopped in a traffic jam or at a red light. It's harmless.

No law you pass will change my behavior. Stick that in your pipe and smoke it.
Worthington Woody

Columbus, OH

#15 Jul 19, 2011
ODOT needs to build the bypass TOLL WAY connecting 71 to US 23 north of Delaware.

Get on with it ODOT and build the " Woody Hayes Thruway ".

This would eliminate 50% of the traffic mess.
Bill

United States

#16 Jul 19, 2011
Cygnus

New York, NY

#17 Jul 19, 2011
MKAACES wrote:
What about the cluster duck where 315/270/23 come together?
Precisely - that's the real issue as they quoted: "From 2002 to 2004, 1,600 crashes were recorded in that section between Rt. 315 and Rt. 23." this is like an 1/8 mile stretch - maybe.

That section is horrible with people trying to cross 3 lanes of bumper-to-bumper traffic. There is perpetually car part debris along the retaining wall there. I don't understand how this proposed change will address that issue? It worked at Sawmill, but that doesn't have 315 merging right into the heart of it.

I'm all for improvement, but this one sounds like more form than functionality.
Derp

Columbus, OH

#18 Jul 19, 2011
Bill wrote:
Thanks for the info.

6 years to completion? Are there only 10 guys working on it? I wonder if they will do a shoddy, incomplete job on it like they did with the I270/161 interchange?

It took FOUR YEARS to build the Millau Viaduct (Tallest bridge in the world). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millau_Viaduct
Guy Fawkes

Columbus, OH

#19 Jul 19, 2011
Chuck wrote:
What happens at rush hour when the traffic waiting at the new red lights back up on 270??? The fact is that poor zoning/development decisions for 25+ years caused the traffic problem along Rt. 23 and there have been piece-meal solutions for the problem for years. This is just more of the same.
You hit the nail right on the head. There has been such heavy population growth in the Delaware area for so long, and just not enough alternatives for getting there. I see the results everyday, not only at this interchange, but also on the northbound Sawmill Road exit from 270.
Bill

United States

#20 Jul 19, 2011
Derp wrote:
<quoted text>
Thanks for the info.
6 years to completion? Are there only 10 guys working on it? I wonder if they will do a shoddy, incomplete job on it like they did with the I270/161 interchange?
It took FOUR YEARS to build the Millau Viaduct (Tallest bridge in the world). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millau_Viaduct
I bet they could get it done in 2 years if they didn't have to maintain traffic during construction. Keeping a road open while you're building really stretches out the schedule. Unfortuantely, you can't close I-270 for two years.
Derp

Columbus, OH

#21 Jul 19, 2011
Bill wrote:
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I bet they could get it done in 2 years if they didn't have to maintain traffic during construction. Keeping a road open while you're building really stretches out the schedule. Unfortuantely, you can't close I-270 for two years.
True, but it seems other states don't seem to have this problem.

As someone who has travels alot, I've seen similar infrastructure projects take much less time. I routinely drive to Chicago and during a 5 year period, I slowly watched I75/I70 finish, while NW Indiana did projects 3x as big in half the time.

The fact is, our projects take too long.
Chris

Columbus, OH

#22 Jul 19, 2011
Check the Map wrote:
Just wanted to point out to the Dispatch that the map showing the new design has two errors in it -- the arrows in the interior clover "leafs" should be orange, not red, and should be going the other direction. To do what the arrows say, cars would have to be driving the wrong way on 270--that is, eastbound in the westbound lane, and westbound in the eastbound lane. The interior circles should be for entering the interstate, not exiting it.
The map is actually correct, it's just difficult to tell where the arrows are in the graphic. The leafs are for traffic to enter 270 from NB/SB 23. The arrows look like they indicate the exits going underneath the leafs and enter 23 properly.

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