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Worthington teachers support revised, longer contract | The Columbus Dispatch

There are 48 comments on the Columbus Dispatch story from Jun 8, 2011, titled Worthington teachers support revised, longer contract | The Columbus Dispatch. In it, Columbus Dispatch reports that:

Worthington teachers agreed yesterday to replace their contract for the 2011-12 school year with a three-year pact that would include a freeze on raises, including some step increases, which are awarded for education and experience.

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Business As Usual

Powell, OH

#49 Jun 15, 2011
Upnorth wrote:
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Thank you for the compliment. You are so correct. I have never voted for a tax increase, ever. But, I still enjoy finding reasons to vote no. The schools provide excellent data for my streak. The hypocrisy of the above-average pay for 9 months worth of work with 3 weeks paid vacation and 15 days paid sick leave (payable at the end of career if unused) and gold-plated benefits usually fits the bill. When that fails, the administrators hilarious additions to the tragic pay system seals the deal.
Point proven, you are the kind who will praise teachers on one hand and claim to support kids but then prove that you despise teachers and children by never voting for a tax increase. Your kind always believe that public education should be free of any cost and teachers should be paid as they were in the 1960's. If your kind believe that my comment is a compliment then there is little hope for this country when it is populated by selfish people like you.
bazinga

Durham, NC

#50 Jun 15, 2011
Sad. All this fingerpointing at teachers wages, instead of at the exhorbitantly salaried managers,'administrators', and snake eyed bean counters. Even sadder is the point everyone is missing about the sorry state of pension plan investments, which were terribly mismanaged during the '03-'08 party-on, do-what-I-say-not-as-I do years, by, ahem, those same bean counters. Little wonder, when you misappropriate (ok,'invest') pension fund revenues into black hole DOA MBS, CDS's, mutual funds, etc, that now earn pennies on the dollar for their hard working future retirees, then, yep, something has to give. BUT, instead of going after the very ppl who took the money bags and ran (the private bankers, insurance execs, ceos), you go after pennies on the dollar wages (and benefits) of teachers and aides. Teachers have never been overpaid. If anything, they're underpaid. Even those teaching in suburban settings.

How pathetic.

Upnorth

Mount Vernon, OH

#51 Jun 15, 2011
Business As Usual wrote:
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Point proven, you are the kind who will praise teachers on one hand and claim to support kids but then prove that you despise teachers and children by never voting for a tax increase. Your kind always believe that public education should be free of any cost and teachers should be paid as they were in the 1960's. If your kind believe that my comment is a compliment then there is little hope for this country when it is populated by selfish people like you.
Again, thank you, as you are reading my mind. Lets get back to the 1960s reality in pay for 9 months worth of work with 3 weeks off and then it would be fair. Education problems are not solved with money, they are exasperated. And if your definition of selfish is someone like me, whom has given 15% of my gross income to charity for the past 30 years, then you are living in the usual liberal la-la land. I am not selfish, I am a realist and freedom lover whom dispises forced unfairness through government fiat. The schools are broken, and I will not partake in the system. Vote NO.
Business As Usual

Powell, OH

#52 Jun 15, 2011
Upnorth wrote:
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Again, thank you, as you are reading my mind. Lets get back to the 1960s reality in pay for 9 months worth of work with 3 weeks off and then it would be fair. Education problems are not solved with money, they are exasperated. And if your definition of selfish is someone like me, whom has given 15% of my gross income to charity for the past 30 years, then you are living in the usual liberal la-la land. I am not selfish, I am a realist and freedom lover whom dispises forced unfairness through government fiat. The schools are broken, and I will not partake in the system. Vote NO.
Selfish, hates teachers, hates kids yet gives money to charity. LOL. Puh-leeeze. At least have the courage to admit you care only about yourself and will partake of all the benefits paying taxes has for you personally while caring not a whit about anyone else. Thank YOU for exposing your hypocritical self for all to read.
bazinga

Durham, NC

#53 Jun 15, 2011
Your 'post' epitomizes, explains PERFECTLY the dunderheaded reason America is being split apart- private industry self-absorbs who are just sooooo afraid a 'civil servant' might be getting 'something' they're not. oooohhhhh. Three months off vaca. oooooohhh. Weekends 'off', ooooooohhh. Well, you know what? Teachers, police officers, garden variety state hospital employees, penal officers......they work for FAR less, hourly, than private workers. Let's just cut thru the mustard and tell us point blank, you can't STAND the fact a hard working TEACHER, who deals with behaviorally challenged, absent parented kids actually might get a few buck help to pay her health care premium, than you. Booo hooo.
THAT, my friends is exactly why private enterprise is so darned determined to defund state, national coffers. Biggest bunch of baby whiners. Pitiful, really.
Business As Usual wrote:
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Selfish, hates teachers, hates kids yet gives money to charity. LOL. Puh-leeeze. At least have the courage to admit you care only about yourself and will partake of all the benefits paying taxes has for you personally while caring not a whit about anyone else. Thank YOU for exposing your hypocritical self for all to read.
Business As Usual

Powell, OH

#54 Jun 16, 2011
bazinga wrote:
Your 'post' epitomizes, explains PERFECTLY the dunderheaded reason America is being split apart- private industry self-absorbs who are just sooooo afraid a 'civil servant' might be getting 'something' they're not. oooohhhhh. Three months off vaca. oooooohhh. Weekends 'off', ooooooohhh. Well, you know what? Teachers, police officers, garden variety state hospital employees, penal officers......they work for FAR less, hourly, than private workers. Let's just cut thru the mustard and tell us point blank, you can't STAND the fact a hard working TEACHER, who deals with behaviorally challenged, absent parented kids actually might get a few buck help to pay her health care premium, than you. Booo hooo.
THAT, my friends is exactly why private enterprise is so darned determined to defund state, national coffers. Biggest bunch of baby whiners. Pitiful, really.
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You're kind of stupid, my "post" if you read the thread pretty much agrees with you. I was responding to the idiot who claims to support kids but does nothing to walk the talk. Maybe the other guy was right.
Upnorth

Mount Vernon, OH

#55 Jun 17, 2011
Business As Usual wrote:
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Selfish, hates teachers, hates kids yet gives money to charity. LOL. Puh-leeeze. At least have the courage to admit you care only about yourself and will partake of all the benefits paying taxes has for you personally while caring not a whit about anyone else. Thank YOU for exposing your hypocritical self for all to read.
How does giving to charity make one selfish, hating teachers, hating kids, and partaking in gov't benefits? I will confidently vote NO for these outrageous levies, mainly because there are people like you supporting them. It is simple, the pay has gotten out of hand, the benefits are crazy, and the voting taxpayers know it. When the levy fails, I will have more money to give to more needy causes than $65,000 nine-month workers who can retire at 52 years old.

Vote NO.
Business As Usual

Powell, OH

#56 Jun 17, 2011
Upnorth wrote:
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How does giving to charity make one selfish, hating teachers, hating kids, and partaking in gov't benefits? I will confidently vote NO for these outrageous levies, mainly because there are people like you supporting them. It is simple, the pay has gotten out of hand, the benefits are crazy, and the voting taxpayers know it. When the levy fails, I will have more money to give to more needy causes than $65,000 nine-month workers who can retire at 52 years old.
Vote NO.
Because you have no credibility in saying you give to charity especially since none of your posts indicate anything other than out and out selfishness on your part. Your only charity is you and you partake of every benefit government gives you but want to deny others benefits for their children. You are the epitomy of what is wrong with America today, it's not the teachers it's you.

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