The 'Do Nothing' Solution to 'Illegal...

The 'Do Nothing' Solution to 'Illegal Immigration'

There are 138 comments on the SFBG Politics Blog story from May 17, 2013, titled The 'Do Nothing' Solution to 'Illegal Immigration'. In it, SFBG Politics Blog reports that:

Both sides of the political aisle have made a major issue out of the problem of the 11 million people inside the US illegally or presently undocumented.

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Mexican pride

Lodi, CA

#107 May 22, 2013
nym8783 wrote:
<quoted text> I told her and she said you have to get on the next plane to Kennedy air port if you want to meet her. Too bad you need papeles to board a plane,lmao
oh well thank you for asking her for me! She agreed to meet my chorizo!
Mexican pride

Lodi, CA

#108 May 22, 2013
Bama Yankee wrote:
<quoted text>
Are you on pot, Ecstasy, LSD or mushrooms?
Those hallucinations are really getting out of control.
never tried none of thee above! Is that what they do to you Marica!!

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#109 May 22, 2013
Reality Check wrote:
<quoted text>
Could be, would be, have been, and will be etc,etc please do your best and try explaining what all these things mean.
all the scandles the corrupt dems are caught in is growing,shows just what their supporter except. then again anyone who supports illegal aliens has nothing to say worth hearing.

watch the news.

“Work hard at work worth doing.”

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#110 May 23, 2013
Memo From Turner wrote:
<quoted text>
Higher power? Do you mean Rush Limbaugh?
All kidding aside Teddy you are preaching to the choir. My father was an Episcopal priest and I attended fine religious schools. This probably goes a long way in explaining my world view where all of God's children deserve respect and compassion. Although you are one of the more well spoken people on this forum I have yet to see you condemn any of the truly awful things that many people on the forum have to say. Why is that?
Actually I just returned for a trip to Asia last week that was related to my church work. I was fortunate enough to be able to retire an an unusually young age so for the past ten years I have very active in several groups that are combating human trafficking. This trip was less exciting than previous trips since I did not participate in any recover efforts this time, but we did meet with governmental groups in three different countries and held conferences with field staff. It is a complex situation and the players and routes change constantly.
It is always amusing to me when I come on these boards and realize that of all of the posters, I am probably the only person who actually does anything to actively keep undocumented people out of the country. It is one thing to rant about the less fortunate, but it is quite another thing to invest your time and money into fighting the problem.
En nominae patre, et fili, et spiritu santi.
Interesting little tidbit that you revealed. And if what you say is factual, then YOU of all people understood the point I was making. If you actually do what you claim, then I am seeing you in a differnt light this morning. Now, let's set the record straight, I have spoken up for some who have been treated poorly by some on my side. I have taken a good bit of flak for having done so, but my purpose for being on thes threads is not to fight, but to post my views and concerns. I have made friends with folks on both sides of the this discussion, and while I may not agree with their views or comments, I respect them and their right to post them, and in return they have afforded me with the same courtesy. So, how about letting us know how you go about your fight to stop the human trafficking. I and am sure others would be interested.

“The "entitled" =communist.”

Since: May 10

MY MONEY, come take it.

#111 May 23, 2013
teddyr4me wrote:
<quoted text>Interesting little tidbit that you revealed. And if what you say is factual, then YOU of all people understood the point I was making. If you actually do what you claim, then I am seeing you in a differnt light this morning. Now, let's set the record straight, I have spoken up for some who have been treated poorly by some on my side. I have taken a good bit of flak for having done so, but my purpose for being on thes threads is not to fight, but to post my views and concerns. I have made friends with folks on both sides of the this discussion, and while I may not agree with their views or comments, I respect them and their right to post them, and in return they have afforded me with the same courtesy. So, how about letting us know how you go about your fight to stop the human trafficking. I and am sure others would be interested.
My granddaughter is supposed to be interested in the human trafficking thing. I haven't said too much to her because it's her first "cause" in her first year in college. lol.

“Work hard at work worth doing.”

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#112 May 23, 2013
Jack from Bedias wrote:
<quoted text>My granddaughter is supposed to be interested in the human trafficking thing. I haven't said too much to her because it's her first "cause" in her first year in college. lol.
Ah, and I am sure that there will be many others! She is spreading her wings and finding her own way...as they get older, they begin to understand their parents and their reasons a little more, don't you think?:)
Memo From Turner

Bellmore, NY

#113 May 23, 2013
teddyr4me wrote:
<quoted text>Ah, and I am sure that there will be many others! She is spreading her wings and finding her own way...as they get older, they begin to understand their parents and their reasons a little more, don't you think?:)
Human trafficking has become a trendy issue of late. That is a good thing. It needs all of the attention that it can get.

Here is how I got interested in the issue. In about 2000 there was an article in our local papers about the police raiding an Asian massage parlor in the neighboring town. The initial reports were that the women arrested appeared to be here illegally. Good riddance to them. Who could possibly care about illegal immigrant prostitutes?

About a year and a half later there was a big story here about sex slaves on Long Island. It was quite disturbing and surely reinforced the notion that things are not always what they seem.

It turns out that one of the women arrested at the massage parlor would not cooperate with the authorities. She refused to speak, would not give her name and had no ID. They told her she would sit in her cell until she would tell them her name.

One local cop took an interest in this woman and would go out of his way to visit the county jail each morning and bring her coffee and a Chinese language newspaper, but she never acknowledged him. She just sat there stone faced. Day after day.

Four months later he showed up one morning and she begged him for help. It turns out she was 28 years old and had a husband and three year old son in China. Life was good, steady job, decent living conditions and then she became pregnant. That should not make somebody a bad person, but in China they have their one child policy. The enforcement of this law varies from place to place. In rural areas it is overlooked, in some provinces there is a fine and in others tax penalties. Unfortunately where she lived the local police had a different approach. She was arrested, beaten until she miscarried and was then sold into slavery by the police.

The snake heads who had her sent her to the US and said she could not return until she paid them $125,000. That may sound like a lot of money to us, but where she lived the average income was about $5000 per year. When she arrived in the US she was warned not to contact the police or tell anybody. They explained that if she did she would end up being deported and her husband and son would be dead before her plane even reached China. Four months later she was arrested.

As it turned out she cooperated with the police and it resulted in breaking up a large smuggling operation and they ended up arresting 75 people in the US and China. It also freed a lot of other people in similar situations.

We hear terrible stories everyday, but for some reason this story disturbed me to no end. Partially because I have lived in several countries in my life, including China. I just can't imagine the horrors that were going through this woman's head as she sat there for months trying to figure out what to do and with her family's lives in the balance.

Until then I was not aware of how common this type of thing is in the US. The FBI estimates that there could be up to 300,000 people living in similar conditions in the US now. Just a couple of weeks ago a Saudi diplomat was caught with two slaves.

So for the last ten years I have spent a lot of time, effort and money on this issue.

This ranges from mundane tasks like working with UNODC to coordinate training programs for local authorities and immigration officers world wide to raising money for Sirirat Pusurinkham's organization to spying on Chinese gangsters to participating in raids on Thai brothels where we literally broke down the doors, grabbed as many child prostitutes as we could and threw them into vans and took them to safe places.

I could go on forever about this, but I guess you get the drift.

“Work hard at work worth doing.”

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#114 May 24, 2013
Memo From Turner wrote:
<quoted text>
Human trafficking has become a trendy issue of late. That is a good thing. It needs all of the attention that it can get.
Here is how I got interested in the issue. In about 2000 there was an article in our local papers about the police raiding an Asian massage parlor in the neighboring town. The initial reports were that the women arrested appeared to be here illegally. Good riddance to them. Who could possibly care about illegal immigrant prostitutes?
About a year and a half later there was a big story here about sex slaves on Long Island. It was quite disturbing and surely reinforced the notion that things are not always what they seem.
It turns out that one of the women arrested at the massage parlor would not cooperate with the authorities. She refused to speak, would not give her name and had no ID. They told her she would sit in her cell until she would tell them her name.
One local cop took an interest in this woman and would go out of his way to visit the county jail each morning and bring her coffee and a Chinese language newspaper, but she never acknowledged him. She just sat there stone faced. Day after day.
Four months later he showed up one morning and she begged him for help. It turns out she was 28 years old and had a husband and three year old son in China. Life was good, steady job, decent living conditions and then she became pregnant. That should not make somebody a bad person, but in China they have their one child policy. The enforcement of this law varies from place to place. In rural areas it is overlooked, in some provinces there is a fine and in others tax penalties. Unfortunately where she lived the local police had a different approach. She was arrested, beaten until she miscarried and was then sold into slavery by the police.
The snake heads who had her sent her to the US and said she could not return until she paid them $125,000. That may sound like a lot of money to us, but where she lived the average income was about $5000 per year. When she arrived in the US she was warned not to contact the police or tell anybody. They explained that if she did she would end up being deported and her husband and son would be dead before her plane even reached China. Four months later she was arrested.
As it turned out she cooperated with the police and it resulted in breaking up a large smuggling operation and they ended up arresting 75 people in the US and China. It also freed a lot of other people in similar situations.
I could go on forever about this, but I guess you get the drift.
I have been involved in something similar. A teacher friend lives next dorr to a home that the local chinese restaurant owner bought to houes his workers. They have no furniture...they lay on the floor, and now they are adding Hispanics to the mix. I got in touch with my rep for her, and lo and behold, the DHS has sent agents out to check things out and an investigation has taken place. It is a long process to get the goods on these cretins. I was told that they bring these young people in, they make them work slave hours, then in time they are forced to move to another town or city to open a new restaturant. They are like indentured slaves. The Chinese were very shy and quiet, but the Hispanic men would go into her yard and stare at her and her kids. she'd ask them if they needed anything, an they would just stand and stare. she became pretty scared, which is why I tried to get her help. If there is a Chinese buffet in your town, chances are it is being run in the same manner, and you will notice that the workers are constantly changing. There is a reason for that.

So memo, you definitely have changed my opinion of you. I wish you would have shared this earlier. People might have taken the time to talk to you rather than at you. I cut some of your response in order to fit mine in. I commend you on your work to help stamp this out.

“Work hard at work worth doing.”

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#115 May 24, 2013
s/b: door, house

“The "entitled" =communist.”

Since: May 10

MY MONEY, come take it.

#116 May 24, 2013
teddyr4me wrote:
<quoted text>Ah, and I am sure that there will be many others! She is spreading her wings and finding her own way...as they get older, they begin to understand their parents and their reasons a little more, don't you think?:)
We haven't had the opportunity to talk. There's been turmoil within the family. In time it will happen.
Memo From Turner

Bellmore, NY

#117 May 24, 2013
teddyr4me wrote:
<quoted text>I have been involved in something similar. A teacher friend lives next dorr to a home that the local chinese restaurant owner bought to houes his workers. They have no furniture...they lay on the floor, and now they are adding Hispanics to the mix. I got in touch with my rep for her, and lo and behold, the DHS has sent agents out to check things out and an investigation has taken place. It is a long process to get the goods on these cretins. I was told that they bring these young people in, they make them work slave hours, then in time they are forced to move to another town or city to open a new restaturant. They are like indentured slaves. The Chinese were very shy and quiet, but the Hispanic men would go into her yard and stare at her and her kids. she'd ask them if they needed anything, an they would just stand and stare. she became pretty scared, which is why I tried to get her help. If there is a Chinese buffet in your town, chances are it is being run in the same manner, and you will notice that the workers are constantly changing. There is a reason for that.
So memo, you definitely have changed my opinion of you. I wish you would have shared this earlier. People might have taken the time to talk to you rather than at you. I cut some of your response in order to fit mine in. I commend you on your work to help stamp this out.
That happens a lot with Chinese restaurants. They raided a restaurant on Long Island last year where there were about 20 people living in the basement of the restaurant.
forum

Chicago, IL

#118 May 24, 2013
Memo From Turner wrote:
<quoted text>
That happens a lot with Chinese restaurants. They raided a restaurant on Long Island last year where there were about 20 people living in the basement of the restaurant.
Looks like you have your picks as to who you debate the topic with and who you come after like a bully.
Typical troll!
Memo From Turner

Bellmore, NY

#119 May 24, 2013
forum wrote:
<quoted text>
Looks like you have your picks as to who you debate the topic with and who you come after like a bully.
Typical troll!
You reap what you sow Sundela
forum

Chicago, IL

#120 May 24, 2013
Memo From Turner wrote:
<quoted text>
You reap what you sow Sundela
More like you reaped what you yourself sowed ,ignorant.

You shouldn't have assumed!
forum

Chicago, IL

#121 May 24, 2013
Memo From Turner wrote:
<quoted text>
You reap what you sow Sundela
Bullying is one thing but bringing in your soldier to assist you? COWARD ! Couldn't confront me on your own huh? Ample opportunity was given and you chose the cowardly way. Go back to the mudhole you crawled out of.
forum

Chicago, IL

#122 May 24, 2013
plural: soldiers,many of them too.
and guess what? I'm still standing while you still continue to be the miserable rat u always been.
Mexican pride

Lodi, CA

#123 May 24, 2013
forum wrote:
plural: soldiers,many of them too.
and guess what? I'm still standing while you still continue to be the miserable rat u always been.
you really sound like you're miserable!!!!
nym8783

United States

#124 May 24, 2013
Mexican pride wrote:
<quoted text> you really sound like you're miserable!!!!
Your comebacks are terrible,give up already mojado
Live your Life

Chicago, IL

#125 May 24, 2013
Mexican pride wrote:
<quoted text> you really sound like you're miserable!!!!
If ur arse was being viciously stalked and can't seem to settle in one forum or another without you vicious trolls coming and attempting to silence us with your personal attacks, you would be frustrated to, especially when your time is limited due to responsibilities. This is every forum,coward !
Mexican pride

Lodi, CA

#127 May 24, 2013
nym8783 wrote:
<quoted text> Your comebacks are terrible,give up already mojado
NEVER CULO!!!!! Soon compadre!!!

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