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Wisconsin high court to rule in Menard case

There are 41 comments on the TwinCities.com story from Jul 21, 2010, titled Wisconsin high court to rule in Menard case. In it, TwinCities.com reports that:

The Wisconsin Supreme Court is set to rule today whether home improvement chain Menard Inc.

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mmj

Minneapolis, MN

#1 Jul 21, 2010
I hope they sock it to Menard. The Menard family are horrible employers, participating in discrimination throughout their organization. Whenever confronted, they try bully tactics and unfortunately, in an area like Eau Claire, there are not many jobs to choose from, so the tactics work.

And for the record, I am not a bitter ex-employee. I have not ever worked there, but lived in the area for 20+ years and have witnessed the family's ego in action.
zingbopper

Alma Center, WI

#2 Jul 21, 2010
1.4 million?
That's a lot of sheet rock.
By the way, I haven't seen any commercials with the old fellow lately
they better not try to replace him again.
757driver

Minneapolis, MN

#3 Jul 21, 2010
You can act anyway you want, and get away with it, when you have 8 Billion dollars!
P T Bull

Minneapolis, MN

#4 Jul 21, 2010
I save big money, save big money...

Menards is the only home improvement store that doesnt' try to get customers to ring up their own purchases--so they get my business.
Facts only please

Chippewa Falls, WI

#5 Jul 21, 2010
mmj wrote:
I hope they sock it to Menard. The Menard family are horrible employers, participating in discrimination throughout their organization. Whenever confronted, they try bully tactics and unfortunately, in an area like Eau Claire, there are not many jobs to choose from, so the tactics work.
And for the record, I am not a bitter ex-employee. I have not ever worked there, but lived in the area for 20+ years and have witnessed the family's ego in action.
MMJ is correct. I have never worked there either, but know many who have, and who still do from clerks on up to the corporate office. General concensous is that Menard gets away with whatever he wants. Firing people at the drop of a hat. Descrimination and intimidation are all par for the course.

Menard is cheap too. Remember the news a couple years ago about the regulatory agency catching him taking home hazardous ash from the company incinerator and putting it into his personal garbage so he didn't have to pay for proper disposal..... plain stupid.

I'd like to see some competition move into town. Home Depot or Lowes is where I go if I get out of town.
Brent

Grand Forks, ND

#6 Jul 21, 2010
P T Bull wrote:
I save big money, save big money...
Menards is the only home improvement store that doesnt' try to get customers to ring up their own purchases--so they get my business.
I hope you relaize that the self-checkout is there for the customer's convenience. When i have 1 item to buy, I would rather scan it myself than wait for cart loads of junks to be purchased.
I can't stand going to places that don't offer self-checkout as an option
john frankfort

Cambridge, MN

#7 Jul 21, 2010
she was paid less because she hadn't worked there as long as the others. She was upset cause she wasn't getting paid as much as an attorney who has work for menards for 20+ years. Menards is a great business run by great people who treat their employees right. Where else can you get a $1500 bonus at the end of the year when your only a part-time cashier.
Oy Vey everybody

Burnsville, MN

#8 Jul 21, 2010
john frankfort wrote:
she was paid less because she hadn't worked there as long as the others. She was upset cause she wasn't getting paid as much as an attorney who has work for menards for 20+ years. Menards is a great business run by great people who treat their employees right. Where else can you get a $1500 bonus at the end of the year when your only a part-time cashier.
Keep drinking the cool aid John.

John Mendard's management style is well documented.

By the way, the comment posted here won't move you from Asst. Manager to Manager. You do understand that right?
JAdams

Hopkins, MN

#9 Jul 21, 2010
If she didn't like the pay, why not quit and go somewhere else?
Jill

Chicago, IL

#10 Jul 21, 2010
Hold on.

Menards didn't want her.

She didn't want to work for Menards.

But the arbitration panel ordered Menards to rehire her?

What a bunch of idiots. How frightening that people making these types of decisions are so clueless.
Dan Wesson Guy

Philadelphia, PA

#11 Jul 21, 2010
I was a department manager for Menards back in the 80's and can confirm the content of the posts here. John Menard's temper is legendary! We used to quake in our boots when we knew he was coming to visit the store. I can't tell you how many people I saw fired at the drop of a hat in the 4 years I was there. I remember getting no sick days and going to work sick as a dog. Vacation had to be taken in one week blocks. If they offered you a promotion out-of-state (like in Nowhere, Iowa) and you turned them down, you could and would be fired. The one thing positive I will say about the company is that they did reward their workers, especially managers, with good bonuses. But, given all the other negative things, I found it a very hard place to work for very long. I always laugh a little whenever I see a story like this. Believe me. The view from the inside was a whole lot worse.
abe_12134

Prescott, WI

#12 Jul 21, 2010
Well John Menard is obivous an idiot if he thought for one minute that the company attorney that he wrongly fired would not come back and pursue a lawsuit especially if she was in a protected class. What an idiot?!! He should know the consequences of violating Title VII espcecially if he is such a great business man and has a great team of attorneys.
Theresa

Chaska, MN

#13 Jul 21, 2010
Brent wrote:
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I hope you relaize that the self-checkout is there for the customer's convenience. When i have 1 item to buy, I would rather scan it myself than wait for cart loads of junks to be purchased.
I can't stand going to places that don't offer self-checkout as an option
I agree, and you DONT have to do the self check out. You DO have an option.
Jay

Minneapolis, MN

#14 Jul 21, 2010
It's a shame that workers become so bold & feel a sense of entitlement after becoming comfortable in their workplace. I'll bet she agreed to her hiring salary & was happy with it as well. Just add that time to the belt and watch a feeling of entitlement appear.
Handy Man

Saint Paul, MN

#15 Jul 21, 2010
I have heard the stories about John Menard over the years from friends who lived in Chippewa Falls though I have no first hand knowledge. I have also experienced watching the Menards brand develop the last couple of decades in the Twin Cities (West St Paul). There was a time when I would only go to Menards if I could not find what I was looking for anywhere else. Today, I go to Menards first. Their prices are better than Home Depot or Lowes and their lumber selection has gone from crap to much better than their competition. Even their customer service has improved dramatically and is no worse than any of their big box competitors.
Hello McFly

Hamel, MN

#16 Jul 21, 2010
Facts only please wrote:
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MMJ is correct. I have never worked there either, but know many who have, and who still do from clerks on up to the corporate office. General concensous is that Menard gets away with whatever he wants. Firing people at the drop of a hat. Descrimination and intimidation are all par for the course.
Menard is cheap too. Remember the news a couple years ago about the regulatory agency catching him taking home hazardous ash from the company incinerator and putting it into his personal garbage so he didn't have to pay for proper disposal..... plain stupid.
I'd like to see some competition move into town. Home Depot or Lowes is where I go if I get out of town.
Careful what you wish for in terms of competition in Eau Claire.....it is common knowledge that Menards equipment at the distribution plant is all bolted down to the floors, making it easy for Menards to move all of their operations out of Eau Claire within a month or two. I've heard that John Menard has stated that he WILL MOVE the Distribution Center out of Eau Claire if another Home Improvement giant is approved in Eau Claire....which would result in hundreds of jobs being lost at the Distribution plant.
Hello McFly

Hamel, MN

#17 Jul 21, 2010
zingbopper wrote:
1.4 million?
That's a lot of sheet rock.
By the way, I haven't seen any commercials with the old fellow lately
they better not try to replace him again.
The "old man" was replaced in the commercials while he was battling cancer...not sure if he won the battle, but that is why he hasn't been in the commercials.
Just saying

Elk River, MN

#19 Jul 21, 2010
Hello McFly wrote:
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The "old man" was replaced in the commercials while he was battling cancer...not sure if he won the battle, but that is why he hasn't been in the commercials.
Sadly, the "old man" has passed away, so we can't see him in Menards ads anymore.
Facts only please

Chippewa Falls, WI

#20 Jul 21, 2010
Hello McFly wrote:
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Careful what you wish for in terms of competition in Eau Claire.....it is common knowledge that Menards equipment at the distribution plant is all bolted down to the floors, making it easy for Menards to move all of their operations out of Eau Claire within a month or two. I've heard that John Menard has stated that he WILL MOVE the Distribution Center out of Eau Claire if another Home Improvement giant is approved in Eau Claire....which would result in hundreds of jobs being lost at the Distribution plant.
I've heard the same. This goes back to that intimidation/bully factor. He also has told the city and county that any businesses they bring in, regardless of type of business, cannot pay over a certain $$$ amount for employees or he would move also.

How long do you let someone be the bully before you take a stand.
Hello McFly

Hamel, MN

#21 Jul 21, 2010
Facts only please wrote:
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I've heard the same. This goes back to that intimidation/bully factor. He also has told the city and county that any businesses they bring in, regardless of type of business, cannot pay over a certain $$$ amount for employees or he would move also.
How long do you let someone be the bully before you take a stand.
Unfortunately EC will have to listen until they get another large employer coming to the area to help offset the loss of taxes and employment if/when Menard forces his hand. I am from EC originally, but like many, moved to the Twin Cities for employment (and to get paid a decent wage.) Economically EC can't afford to let Menard go. I'm sure aware of the situation at the Chippewa Valley airport and John Menard too.

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