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Chicago repeals foie gras ban

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#136
May 15, 2008
 
Right on Chicago!!!!!
It should be the restaurateurs' decision on what to serve and the customers' right to choose to dine there. Choices. Not Rules!
Now if you can only fix the Cubs.
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#137
May 15, 2008
 
It seems that as a society we have become slaves of our tongue.
Have we completely lost any sensitivity and compassion to living beings?
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#138
May 15, 2008
 
UNKL Vinnie wrote:
Right on Chicago!!!!! It should be the restaurateurs' decision on what to serve and the customers' right to choose to dine there. Choices. Not Rules! Now if you can only fix the Cubs.
under that arcane logic, a bar owner should be able to permit smoking and clients should be able to decide whether or not to go there.

that said, i really do enjoy the smoke-free nightlife. go figure.
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#139
May 15, 2008
 
GCL wrote:
Typical reaction for Daley, incompetent, insular mid-western bitch.
It's he who is the laughing stock of the US as Chicago's mayor.
If Foie gras were acceptable and ethical, would our Mayor please explain why it is banned in Austria, Czech Republic, Croatia, Denmark, Finland, Germany, Italy, Luxembourg, Norway, Poland, Turkey, Holland, Ireland, Israel, Sweden, Switzerland and the United Kingdom?
What a cheap little parochial, mid-western thug.
The country information is incomplete and misleading. In general, these countries do not produce foie gras and didn't do so in the past. The Council of Europe treaty involving the protection of farm animals deals with the production of foie gras, but not consumption. Some European countries where foie gras is a national cultural tradition still produce it.
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#140
May 15, 2008
 
jeff youngblom wrote:
im not a complainer but...
Translation: I'm a complainer and here I go.
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#141
May 15, 2008
 
Majorca wrote:
I'm disappointed in all you writers who think animal cruelty is a non-issue. But somehow I'm not surprised so many people think cruelty is okay when it doesn't happen to you. Mayor Daley is only living up to his reputation as an idiot who manipulates democracy for his own will. Wasn't there a guy with a funny mustach who did that last century?
Yrs, I remember that guy. His name was Adolph and he was a vegetarian and believed in animal rights. Unfortunately he id not have the consideration for people as he did for animals, just like like the current animal rights fascists behind the foie gras ban. Tahnk god the ban has been dealt a death blow. Nvever again.
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#142
May 16, 2008
 
kris13 wrote:
How about someone shoves a tube down all the throats of all who eats it or wants to eat it and swells your livers, it's plain cruel. All because most people are cruel. The way most meat and poulty is "manufactured", animals do not need to suffer for the greedy people pleasure!
You realize of course that there are many differences between waterfowl and human anatomy. It is not painful for them to have a tube placed down their throat. Their gag reflex is in a different position, so they are never able not to breathe during the process. And their throat is more rugged as opposed to ours. Also. think about how much Americans typically overeat. Now of course eating foie gras is not necessarily going to help in that department, but the fact of the matter is is that, the liver of the goose or duck, stores fat quite differently then humans.
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#143
May 16, 2008
 
Anyone who eats or considers eating this disgusting product should be ashamed of themselves. It is the final product of life of immense suffering and cruelty!

Foie gras is one of the most sickening examples of humans' using cruelty to get “luxury.” The term “foie gras” literally means “fatty liver.” It is the bloated liver of male ducks and geese who are force-fed enormous quantities of food until their livers expand well beyond their normal size. Workers ram pipes down the birds' throats two or three times a day and pump as much as 4 pounds of grain and fat into the animals' stomachs while the birds desperately struggle to get away.5,6,7 The pipes puncture many birds' throats, sometimes causing them to bleed to death or suffer painful wounds. On some farms, a single worker may be expected to force-feed 500 birds three times each day.8 Because of this rush, animals are often treated roughly and left injured and suffering.

Many birds have difficulty standing because of their engorged livers, and they may tear out their own feathers and cannibalize each other because of stress.9 Undercover video footage taken at Sonoma Foie Gras shows rats eating the flesh of live ducks who are too bloated and crippled to defend themselves.

This torture lasts 12 to 21 days and causes the birds' livers to bloat until they are up to 10 times their normal size.10 Because of the injuries and disease caused by force-feeding, the death rates on foie gras farms are between 10 and 25 times higher than the mortality rates on other duck and geese farms, and carcasses of animals from these farms show wing fractures and severe tissue damage to the throat muscles.11
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#144
May 16, 2008
 
Doesn't it worry you, the fois gras eaters, that you are eating a DISEASED liver?? Yuk! Because that is exactly what they are doing to those ducks/geese, they feed them so much fat/crap till their liver is dead/sick. But then there is nothing a gourmet won't eat. They walk over dead bodies to fill their stomachs, regardless of the cruelty involved, shame on you!
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#145
May 16, 2008
 
xMOONx wrote:
Doesn't it worry you, the fois gras eaters, that you are eating a DISEASED liver?? Yuk! Because that is exactly what they are doing to those ducks/geese, they feed them so much fat/crap till their liver is dead/sick. But then there is nothing a gourmet won't eat. They walk over dead bodies to fill their stomachs, regardless of the cruelty involved, shame on you!
Repeating lies does not make them true
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#146
May 16, 2008
 
What wonderful news! Now I can go and eat my pate in peace tonight Peta take a hike. We don't want you here no more.

Find another cause, another day. Hang out at Churchill Downs for a while. Quack Quack Honk Honk.
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May 16, 2008
 
Anne England UK wrote:
Anyone who eats or considers eating this disgusting product should be ashamed of themselves. It is the final product of life of immense suffering and cruelty!
Foie gras is one of the most sickening examples of humans' using cruelty to get “luxury.” The term “foie gras” literally means “fatty liver.” It is the bloated liver of male ducks and geese who are force-fed enormous quantities of food until their livers expand well beyond their normal size. Workers ram pipes down the birds' throats two or three times a day and pump as much as 4 pounds of grain and fat into the animals' stomachs while the birds desperately struggle to get away.5,6,7 The pipes puncture many birds' throats, sometimes causing them to bleed to death or suffer painful wounds. On some farms, a single worker may be expected to force-feed 500 birds three times each day.8 Because of this rush, animals are often treated roughly and left injured and suffering.
Many birds have difficulty standing because of their engorged livers, and they may tear out their own feathers and cannibalize each other because of stress.9 Undercover video footage taken at Sonoma Foie Gras shows rats eating the flesh of live ducks who are too bloated and crippled to defend themselves.
This torture lasts 12 to 21 days and causes the birds' livers to bloat until they are up to 10 times their normal size.10 Because of the injuries and disease caused by force-feeding, the death rates on foie gras farms are between 10 and 25 times higher than the mortality rates on other duck and geese farms, and carcasses of animals from these farms show wing fractures and severe tissue damage to the throat muscles.11
Oh but it tastes so good! YUMMY!!!! Can't wait to legally eat some and think of you tonight!
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#148
May 16, 2008
 
IMHO wrote:
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under that arcane logic, a bar owner should be able to permit smoking and clients should be able to decide whether or not to go there.
that said, i really do enjoy the smoke-free nightlife. go figure.
Don't go there. Foi Gras eaters don't share their meal with everyone in the room. Smokers do.
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#149
May 17, 2008
 
Chicago, wake up! You had it right when you did away with foie gras because of all the cruelty behind it. Now you are back to your primitive ways to satisfy people who need this like they need a hole in the head. I for one don't plan to EVER eat at any of the restaurants that serve it.
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#150
May 17, 2008
 
Bonnie wrote:
Chicago, wake up! You had it right when you did away with foie gras because of all the cruelty behind it. Now you are back to your primitive ways to satisfy people who need this like they need a hole in the head. I for one don't plan to EVER eat at any of the restaurants that serve it.
Buh-bye then Bonnie... nobody cares!
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#151
May 17, 2008
 
oil $128
gas $4
save some here
www.hotbuysdeals.com
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#152
May 18, 2008
 
Buh-Bye wrote:
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Buh-bye then Bonnie... nobody cares!
Obviously, someone is trying to please at least some of the customers or this back and forth nonsense wouldn't have occurred in the first place. Duh.
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#153
May 18, 2008
 
Bonnie wrote:
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Obviously, someone is trying to please at least some of the customers or this back and forth nonsense wouldn't have occurred in the first place. Duh.
If you'd crawl out of your hole in LeRoy a little more, Bonnie, you'd figure out that one Alderman Moore engineered the stupid ban not to "please any customers" but to give stupid activists like you something to crow about. However, saner heads prevailed last week, and now I can enjoy my pate in peace. Phooey on you!
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#154
May 18, 2008
 
Bonnie wrote:
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Obviously, someone is trying to please at least some of the customers or this back and forth nonsense wouldn't have occurred in the first place. Duh.
I guess now nuts like you can just continue to protest the Dairy Queen in beautiful Mahomet where they're cruelly milking those cows for use in that horrible foodstuff vanilla ice cream. You'd better hurry - they're running a sale on Banana Splits today!
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#155
May 18, 2008
 
You assume a lot, Buy-Bye. My "hole" isn't even in LeRoy at the moment, and I've traveled a lot of miles in my many years.

There are all kinds and levels of people who show concern for animals. Some are advocates, others are activists, and even the majority of people who consume animal products --at least in the U.S.--have shown that they want animal "welfare" for the animals from which animal products were obtained. That is why the Humane Slaughter Act came about in 1958. Unfortunately, someone decided since 1958 that "livestock" didn't include poultry. As the public has recently become even more aware of what goes on behind the scenes and with beef recalls, etc., both consumers and government officials are well aware of the desire/need for enforcement of the Act.

To think that every person who has a concern about cruelty toward an animal is a "nut" is pretty closed minded. Some people just don't want to hear about cruelty and/or feel that they are part of the problem.
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