Leominster mall to be auctioned - Sentinel & Enterprise

The Mall at Whitney Field -- Leominster's largest taxpayer -- will be up for auction next month in a foreclosure sale. Full Story
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Joannefan

Gardner, MA

#69 Sep 28, 2010
A merchant at a small shoe store I shop at in Gardner said this recently, and I'm beginning to agree with him. He said. "Malls killed Main Street, and the internet killed the malls."
Maybe THAT'S what happening to Whitney Field...
A good Idea

Newark, NJ

#71 Sep 30, 2010
This place needs a triple-decker night-club complex called "THE CAVE"!!!!! Smack in the middle of the parking lot with plenty of neon. Complete with a cave-like rock entrance, running water, ice stellactites hanging from the ceiling, smoke machines, hideaways, pockets in the rock walls for drinks, that's what this region needs, something no one else has. If you build it they will come.

Since: Feb 10

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#72 Sep 30, 2010
People, The Mall at Whitney Field is up for auction next month in a foreclosure sale. People are still drowning from the first ripple of home forclosures. This is just the second ripple of foreclosers leading up to the "massive" wave called "spread the wealth"....

All you people should "THINK" long and hard when you go to the voting booth in November. Do you really want to support this current crop of misfits who have total control and power over our children's and their children's future ????
Lets see"
-Cap and Trade or Waxman-Markey “Cap and TAX (H.R. 2454)-
The plan to inflate the cost of energy, transportation, food and clothing by $1,241 annually that will strain every family budget "including the poor", and decimate this country's manufacturing sector --all in the name of supposedly saving us from global warming, global cooling and now climate change.

- Value Added Tax or "VAT" -
This tax is collected at each stage of production, rather than only at the retail level like state sales taxes. The plan is to hide taxes that can consistently move higher without 'taxpayer’s knowledge to provide funds to buy votes and keep our career politicians in office.

- Global Poverty Act -
Obama's Senate Bill 2433 that's “waiting in hiding” about global income "wealth" redistribution. Their distribution - our income. Heard much debate about it? Ah, it's only 8.5 tenths of a trillion.

- Amnesty for Illegal Aliens-
Giving more than ten million illegal aliens access to Auntie Zeituni Onyango’s new government teet. The same system that "took advantage" of her and will give every single illegal alien instant mandatory health care.
Absolutely every voter "with children" concerned with legal and/or illegal immigration needs to see these 2 short videos:

http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- Obamacare - Enough said!

Vote as if your kid’s life depends on it. BECAUSE IT DOES
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

Since: Apr 09

Leominster, MA

#73 Sep 30, 2010
Joannefan wrote:
A merchant at a small shoe store I shop at in Gardner said this recently, and I'm beginning to agree with him. He said. "Malls killed Main Street, and the internet killed the malls."
Maybe THAT'S what happening to Whitney Field...
More like Wal-Mart and the stores @ Orchard Hills Office Park that killed Whitney field...
Joannefan

Gardner, MA

#74 Sep 30, 2010
Luther Manning wrote:
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More like Wal-Mart and the stores @ Orchard Hills Office Park that killed Whitney field...
You've got a point there...but only because it's fresh and new. Also, as someone said in a previous post, the enclosed mall has seen its time go by. Maybe TM@WF should be redesigned as an open shopping center, such as Legacy Place in Dedham, with no food court or walking space. Limiting the space to shoppers only will cut down on juvenile deliquents and "seat warmers". Just a thought...
Joannefan

Gardner, MA

#75 Sep 30, 2010
Another thought going back to what I said about the internet...Some would rather shop online to avoid traffic and the fact that they can't find what they want in the stores. Believe me, I hear it all the time! "You mean you DON'T have it?!I saw it on the website! I drove all the way from..." God forbid you actually used that cell phone for something productive! People are strange...
Joannefan

Gardner, MA

#76 Sep 30, 2010
A good Idea wrote:
This place needs a triple-decker night-club complex called "THE CAVE"!!!!! Smack in the middle of the parking lot with plenty of neon. Complete with a cave-like rock entrance, running water, ice stellactites hanging from the ceiling, smoke machines, hideaways, pockets in the rock walls for drinks, that's what this region needs, something no one else has. If you build it they will come.
The management of Chuckey Cheese tried to apply for a liquor license a few years back and were declined one...thank God! There may be restaurants SURROUNDING the mall who serve alcohol, but their patrons don't venture to the mall after boozing. Remember the brawl over the CC photo booth a couple years back? That may have been 10 times worse if the women involved were fueled by booze.
Ask Jenifer Flanagan

Belmont, MA

#78 Oct 1, 2010
This mall should be busy!! At the rate of this outsourcing their will be few jobs left!

When are our leaders going to lead?? When?
ma voter

Leominster, MA

#79 Oct 1, 2010
Ask Jenifer Flanagan wrote:
This mall should be busy!! At the rate of this outsourcing their will be few jobs left!
When are our leaders going to lead?? When?
Don't ask Flanagan, not quite leadeship material!
Joannefan

Gardner, MA

#80 Oct 4, 2010
Excallaber wrote:
well its been my observaince that the mall doesnt produce much business during the week but on weekends is were they make the money for the retail end of it. that must be hard on the owners, its been also my observaince that there is no attraction their either, except easter xmass this and that, its gets boring just brosing around after a while, the bigger malls have live music all kind of performers, to draw the people in once there in then may be a little spending or a lot but this has been my view point of this place it seems to be dying, at the helm of its caretakers, would like to see some dramatic changes for excitement down there would be nice. and benifitial to every one.
I've been working for one of the mall's newest tennants for eight years now, and it still AMAZES me when people comment on how DEAD the mall is during the week! My stock response is, "If Leominster was a tourist destination, we MIGHT have extra bodies wandering around during the week. People don't flock to Leominster...they FLEA FROM IT!". Let's face it...Leominster is a BEDROOM community, with not much indusrty left that made it famous. If the mall goes to a new owner, I don't seriously think things will change much. High weekend traffic isn't what is going to keep the mall afloat.
Local Shopper

Cambridge, MA

#82 Oct 25, 2010
Luther Manning wrote:
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For some time Leominster has been touted as "the retail capital of North Central Massachusetts". And will continue to grow more retail from what I've heard.
The Mall at Whitney Field has very little draw there. We occasionally go to J.C. Penney, Sears or Macy's but that's about it. Most of my shopping is done online or I'll go to the Pheasant Lane Mall.
Your mayor should try and attract more industry. The town is going to be cash strapped if it continues to rely on taxes from the retail space to fill the city's coffers.
Instead, why isn't your mayor looking at trying to attract more industry that would bring more jobs to the region? While this isn't a short term solution, focusing on new industry and job growth will help the region in the long run...more so than any mall can.
No Fear

Bolton, MA

#83 Oct 25, 2010
Who in their right mind will make a major purchase at Sears, Ultimate Electronics, Kay Jewelers, Hannoush Jewelers, Macy's, etc. when they have to pay the state the 6.25% sales tax? Another $50-$100 for the privilege of purchasing goods Leominster, when a half hour away provide complete tax relief.

And since the bigger stores can't hold their own, what remains are low end stores selling throw away goods. Those instant signs of the retail death spiral -- several nail salons, eyebrow threading, multiple cell phone kiosks, and purveyors of gangsta baseball caps.

I know, why don't we raise the sales tax ANOTHER 25% and get even more state revenue.

Fools.
CJP

Leominster, MA

#84 Oct 25, 2010
Local Shopper wrote:
<quoted text>The Mall at Whitney Field has very little draw there. We occasionally go to J.C. Penney, Sears or Macy's but that's about it. Most of my shopping is done online or I'll go to the Pheasant Lane Mall.
Your mayor should try and attract more industry. The town is going to be cash strapped if it continues to rely on taxes from the retail space to fill the city's coffers.
Instead, why isn't your mayor looking at trying to attract more industry that would bring more jobs to the region? While this isn't a short term solution, focusing on new industry and job growth will help the region in the long run...more so than any mall can.
Ten miles east of here is the former Fort Devens. The State and Federal government give tax breaks to companies who locate there. That doesn't even include all the money that both Governments have spent on infrastructure improvements on the base and surrounding highways. There is no way Leominster or any other town in this area can compete with the amount of money being spent to redevelop the former military base.
joannefan

Gardner, MA

#86 Oct 26, 2010
Local Shopper wrote:
<quoted text>The Mall at Whitney Field has very little draw there. We occasionally go to J.C. Penney, Sears or Macy's but that's about it. Most of my shopping is done online or I'll go to the Pheasant Lane Mall.
Your mayor should try and attract more industry. The town is going to be cash strapped if it continues to rely on taxes from the retail space to fill the city's coffers.
Instead, why isn't your mayor looking at trying to attract more industry that would bring more jobs to the region? While this isn't a short term solution, focusing on new industry and job growth will help the region in the long run...more so than any mall can.
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I wish that could happen again, that's not likely to happen. Just like Gardner's furniture manufacturing fame, Leominster's fame as "Plastic City" hit the skids a long time ago. There used to be shops in almost every neighborhood. Now I think there are are only 2 or 3 left., there's some hope things may change, but not much. If we could've only had the foresight in the '60's, the mall would've never been built and we could've kept the quaintness of Main Street and not built that "Lego set" in the swamp.
With the coming auction of the mall
Change

United States

#87 Oct 26, 2010
The mall needs to go high end. It needs to distinguish itself from the big box stores. Right now, every store sells the same stuff and every restaurant serves middle of the road meals. High end will attract people looking for high end in the immediate area. It will also attract from wealthy nearby communities in the area who will no longer have to drive to Natick or Wareham; i.e., Acton, Concord, Holden, Princeton, etc.
Realistic look

Fitchburg, MA

#88 Oct 26, 2010
With retail, communities get what they deserve. Their demographics dictate the attention. Even with the people who head east for work, with unemployment in the teens all the time the average household income will keep high end anhting away.
leominster resident

North Billerica, MA

#89 Oct 28, 2010
Voter wrote:
The mall at Whitney field is a dump with lousy stores. Burlington Mall has a much better selection and every other storefront isn't boarded. The Macy's in Leominster carries the lower end merchandise as they have to cater to the population at-large. Take the 40 minute ride to Burlington, it's worth it. Plus, the Wayside Commons right around the corner from the Burlington Mall has some nice shops as well.
The only diversity at the Mall at Whitney Field are the teenagers with nothing better to do and no money to spend. The merchants must love seeing herds of poor teenagers wandering the mall.
you are ignorant. What you think you a better person because you're from Acton? There are plenty of low lifes in Acton.
Voter

Bedford, MA

#91 Oct 28, 2010
leominster resident wrote:
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you are ignorant. What you think you a better person because you're from Acton? There are plenty of low lifes in Acton.
Ignorant? Ignorant as to what, exactly? I live in Fitchburg and have for most of my life. What did I say about the Mall at Whitney Field that is not true? There a quite a few empty stores, stores that have moved or gone out of business. The mall was just auctioned for a fraction for what it was originally financed. The times I've gone there all I’ve seen are herds of teenagers wandering the halls. Next time you're at that mall look at the number of kids gathered in the seating areas, the food court, or just moving through the mall packs. Then look at how many are carrying a bag from any of the mall's stores. How many are actually in a store looking at merchandise? Hardly any. It's a convenient place to hang out which keeps paying customers away. Go to the Solomon Pond Mall, the Burlington Mall, The Natick Collection on the same nights and you'll see shoppers and people carrying bags from the mall stores.

Let's get back to "ignorance", shall we? I'm not from Acton, I don't work in Acton. However, the ISP I utilize does have a proxy in Acton so my location comes up as Acton. So while you make assumptions (you know what they say about assumptions), you also attempt to indict some of the people of Acton because you're ignorant as to how the internet functions.

I’ll leave you with a bit of unsolicited advice. But I think you can benefit greatly from it if only you open your mind.
“It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open one’s mouth and remove all doubt.”
Abraham Lincoln
joannefan

Gardner, MA

#92 Oct 28, 2010
Voter wrote:
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Ignorant? Ignorant as to what, exactly? I live in Fitchburg and have for most of my life. What did I say about the Mall at Whitney Field that is not true? There a quite a few empty stores, stores that have moved or gone out of business. The mall was just auctioned for a fraction for what it was originally financed. The times I've gone there all I’ve seen are herds of teenagers wandering the halls. Next time you're at that mall look at the number of kids gathered in the seating areas, the food court, or just moving through the mall packs. Then look at how many are carrying a bag from any of the mall's stores. How many are actually in a store looking at merchandise? Hardly any. It's a convenient place to hang out which keeps paying customers away. Go to the Solomon Pond Mall, the Burlington Mall, The Natick Collection on the same nights and you'll see shoppers and people carrying bags from the mall stores.
Let's get back to "ignorance", shall we? I'm not from Acton, I don't work in Acton. However, the ISP I utilize does have a proxy in Acton so my location comes up as Acton. So while you make assumptions (you know what they say about assumptions), you also attempt to indict some of the people of Acton because you're ignorant as to how the internet functions.
I’ll leave you with a bit of unsolicited advice. But I think you can benefit greatly from it if only you open your mind.
“It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open one’s mouth and remove all doubt.”
Abraham Lincoln
I TOTALLY agree with you about Whitney Field being nothing but a teen hangout. I work in the mall and see it on a daily basis, and it's absolutely horrendous during school vacations. It's not just teens who can drive themselves to the mall, either...many of these are children under the age of twelve with no adult supervision. If Mr. Lisciotti gets to buy the mall and revamp it, maybe he'll get rid of the interior seating areas. Yes, I know the elderly won't have a place to meet, but their presence isn't actually keeping the mall alive, either. I also think he should get rid of the play area.
I repeatedly hear people blame the mall's decline on the economy.Yes, it's bad, but it can't always be made the scapegoat. As said in "Field of Dreams": "Build it and they will come."

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