Ilikai employees fear for future - Hawaii News

More than 100 employees and supporters of the Ilikai Hotel gathered along Ala Moana Boulevard yesterday, hoping to send a message to the New York-based owner who is closing the hotel.

[realmerv]

Seeing the demonstrators would scare any hotel owner from keeping the hotel open and having to deal with militant union workers. I don't think it helps their cause.

They demonstrated earlier when the hotel units were being foreclosed upon and it was a stupid thing to do then. What bidder would want to deal with workers like that? It is no wonder the new owners are laying off the workers. Besides losing hundreds of thousands of dollars each month, they are probably thinking of ways to avoid dealing with the militant hotel workers.

The new owners should sell the units off as condo units so they don't have to deal with militant union hotel workers.

[Von]

Welcome!

What took you so long? Soon all Hawaii will be homeless so don't feel so bad.

Aloha

[Da kine]

Hozit gang,Is the state using this hotel to put homeless people[without home] or a retirement fo state workers[da was cold]?.Mufi bread are you reading dis??Eh you da kine Linda here is potential for more taxes for you and ,your friends.

[Da kine]

Okaaaaaay all the homeless[people without a home]report to da Ilikai now!!!!...look out for state workers because,they migth take over.Ligle there is no room for you dea you have your own house thanks to dos fake promises you gave to Hawaii.

[Big John-Hawaii Kai]

What do these union workers expect this company to do when they're bleeding money, a lot of money, every month. Oh, wait that's right, they're union! The only thing guaranteed in life is, death and taxes.

[Poi]

Too bad you guys weren't HGEA, you would be getting raises instead of layoffs.

And too bad you aren't Aloha employees. You would be getting thousands in job training and other freebies like your pension taken care of by the government.

But you guys are the lower class Hotel union. Not the high class State and Labor union kind.

So you get nothing.

Lucky You Live Hawaii.

Aloha

[onlyParadise]

oh no

No company is going to buy a business and then keep losing money

And the union has no money left to help the workers because it spend most of the money giving it to the politicians of their choice.

I am sure the union will help the displaced workers when they lose their jobs.

be a sheep
vote democrap

[Active condo owners]

The Ilikai is a mixed-ownership project. 683 out of 1009 condos there are owned by individual owners. A lot of them are very active and mobilized. They even have an active website:

www.ilikaiowners.com

iStar or anyone would have to deal with them, too.

[Neel Amberzombie]

Have no fear of the future hotel workers because there is NO future. That hotel isn't coming back so holding those signs makes no sense. Now if you want to hold signs, you can hold some that say vote for Neel. I'll try to get you some leftovers from the stew and rice fundraiser that I am having at the OTHER hotel.

[bigislandnokaoi]

Big John-Hawaii Kai wrote:

What do these union workers expect this company to do when they're bleeding money, a lot of money, every month. Oh, wait that's right, they're union! The only thing guaranteed in life is, death and taxes.

That's right! I said it before and I'll say it again: The world does not OWE you a living.

[bigislandnokaoi]

Here's something for those who have been throwing out math on this fourm lately, for those who do not beleive that business cannot afford the unions:

21 paid holidays a year. There are an average of 20 work days in each month. That amounts to 1 month +-.

3 weeks paid vacation.

Add these up an they amount to 7 weeks that an employer has to pay an employee for doing nothing and for which the employer gets no return and no productivity. Also, the employer has to carry worker's comp and health insurance on said employee for that 7 weeks for which the employer gets no return and no productivity. As there is 52 weeks in the year, this amounts to 13.5%+- of the working year that an employer gets shafted out of by each of his employees.

Who can afford that and stay in business? I can't.

[Dann EeNoWay]

Howzit Neel, missed you at the union fundraiser last month in DC. Those Hooters girls really know how to work a ummm crowd. The chicken wings were good to if you get my drift.

I'll be back to the islands soon but my advice to the Ilikai workers is to join the HGEA. We've got your back there.

Don't worry I am bringing good business and jobs to Hawaii. I am cutting a deal to have the 2011 Winter Olympics held in Honolulu and to employee our homeless here in Hawaii, I am giving tax credits to a production company to film Bum Fights Island Style for a pay per view feature. The money is going to be rolling in just you wait.

It's nap time, so bye for now. IMAU!

[Dann EeNoWay]

That *** in my above post was B U M. Homeless people don't have computers so why would that word be offensive to anyone?

[Baby boomer]

realmerv wrote:

Seeing the demonstrators would scare any hotel owner from keeping the hotel open and having to deal with militant union workers. I don't think it helps their cause.
They demonstrated earlier when the hotel units were being foreclosed upon and it was a stupid thing to do then. What bidder would want to deal with workers like that? It is no wonder the new owners are laying off the workers. Besides losing hundreds of thousands of dollars each month, they are probably thinking of ways to avoid dealing with the militant hotel workers.
The new owners should sell the units off as condo units so they don't have to deal with militant union hotel workers.

The new owners are closing for awhile to get rid of the unionized workers. When thats done they will again startup the Hotel. Remember you need people to do the everyday work. They just don't want a union demanding more money and benfits. Some of the staff has been there for 30 years and longer. Gezz talk about bad luck, this reminds me of Aloha Airlines.

[local]

iStar does not want union workers. That's how this company works. They will shut down the hotel and re-open without union representation. That's how it should be from the beginning.

[Leota]

...are we forgetting what the cause is of all this economic grief.

Have the civilians of America forgotten just who got the trillion dollars that the lack of in the general population is sinking our ship? Ruining too many lives.

Faked war...taxed to the beans...borrowed from China down to the grains of rice to pay the Military Industrial Complex for all that stuff.

Waterboarding could provide us w/ who got the money, it just didn't go away, it went to the Mega Americans, only the stuff went to Iraq.

Waterboarding can tell where they are hoarding the money, as well as their names. America take back your money, your homes, your jobs.

Home of the Brave? Land of the Free? And your neighbor in the Gated Community has $25 Billion and your unemployment is getting thin?

I can't figure this out...can you?

[R U Kidding]

It's Bush's fault.

I think if it were me, I would not be standing on the corner holding a sign. I would be out looking for a new job!

[whatota]

leota, what I can't figure out is wtf you are talking about.

[Kona Guy]

America is the home of the brave and land of the fee.
Things that are privileges, not rights:
- Owning/renting a home
- Healthcare
- a job
Of course, I'm speaking as one of those monied living-behind-a-gate people. But I didn't inherit money or win a lottery. My "luck" was preparedness plus opportunity.

[huh]

Too bad the Legislature don't care about hotel workers. They went ahead and raised the hotel tax even though the hotel workers were against it. The Legistlature only cares about government union members.

HGEA is working for you while hotel workers go homeless.