UN Investigator Undercuts NYT on Syria

UN Investigator Undercuts NYT on Syria

There are 24 comments on the OpEdNews story from Dec 23, 2013, titled UN Investigator Undercuts NYT on Syria. In it, OpEdNews reports that:

Swedish scientist Ake Sellstrom, chief of the United Nations mission to inspect chemical weapons use in Syria, stands next to UN Secretary General Ban Ki-Moon.

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Syrian

Waterford, CT

#1 Dec 23, 2013
FINALLY the truth incoming out.
Syrian

Waterford, CT

#2 Dec 23, 2013
NYT is a total propaganda sheet!
mxlplx

Waterbury, VT

#3 Dec 23, 2013
The article states:

"Rather than serving as honest brokers -- evaluating the Syrian evidence fairly and openly -- the Times and most of the mainstream U.S. media have simply reprised their propaganda roles played so disastrously a decade ago in the run-up to the Iraq War"
The author almost has it right. The propaganda role goes further back than Iraq directly to Yugoslavia, a campaign so successful that it made misinformation on Iraq a child's play of a sequel.

Here's just one of many propaganda coups of that campaign that the Times championed:

CRISIS IN THE BALKANS: THE OVERVIEW; ALLIES EXPECTING 'MANY MORE WEEKS' OF AIR CAMPAIGN
By CRAIG R. WHITNEY
New York Times, Published: April 11, 1999

The operation -- code-named ''horseshoe,'' or ''potkova'' in the Serbian (fine investigative journalism here) language -- was being planned even as Mr. Milosevic was promising to withdraw the police and military forces that had already begun driving Albanians out of their homes, the German Defense Minister, Rudolf Scharping, said in Bonn this week.

''Our analysis of 'Operation Horseshoe' sadly confirms what we had inferred during the negotiations, which is that Milosevic wanted to win time to prepare a systematic deportation,'' Mr. Scharping said.
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In April 2000, Heinz Loquai, a retired German brigadier general, published a book on the war that revealed that the German government's account had been based on a general analysis by a Bulgarian intelligence agency of Yugoslav behaviour in the war, which was turned into a specific "plan" by the German Defence Ministry.
According to Loquai, the Bulgarian analysis concluded that the goal of the Serbian military was to destroy the Kosovo Liberation Army, and not to expel the entire Albanian population. He also pointed to a factual flaw in the German government's presentation - it had named the plan "Potkova", which is the Croatian and Bulgarian word for horseshoe, whereas the Serbian word is potkovica.
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Fool the American people once, your fault,. Fool us twice, our fault. Try to fool us a third time, there'll be hell to pay at the polls.

That's why Congress backed off. How much shit can a shitshucker shuck when a shucker's shackled to his own shit.

To put it in politically correct terms: "Three times and you're out, Jack"
Syrian

Waterford, CT

#4 Dec 24, 2013
mxlplx wrote:
The article states:
"Rather than serving as honest brokers -- evaluating the Syrian evidence fairly and openly -- the Times and most of the mainstream U.S. media have simply reprised their propaganda roles played so disastrously a decade ago in the run-up to the Iraq War"
The author almost has it right. The propaganda role goes further back than Iraq directly to Yugoslavia, a campaign so successful that it made misinformation on Iraq a child's play of a sequel.
Here's just one of many propaganda coups of that campaign that the Times championed:
CRISIS IN THE BALKANS: THE OVERVIEW; ALLIES EXPECTING 'MANY MORE WEEKS' OF AIR CAMPAIGN
By CRAIG R. WHITNEY
New York Times, Published: April 11, 1999
The operation -- code-named ''horseshoe,'' or ''potkova'' in the Serbian (fine investigative journalism here) language -- was being planned even as Mr. Milosevic was promising to withdraw the police and military forces that had already begun driving Albanians out of their homes, the German Defense Minister, Rudolf Scharping, said in Bonn this week.
''Our analysis of 'Operation Horseshoe' sadly confirms what we had inferred during the negotiations, which is that Milosevic wanted to win time to prepare a systematic deportation,'' Mr. Scharping said.
.
.
.
.
In April 2000, Heinz Loquai, a retired German brigadier general, published a book on the war that revealed that the German government's account had been based on a general analysis by a Bulgarian intelligence agency of Yugoslav behaviour in the war, which was turned into a specific "plan" by the German Defence Ministry.
According to Loquai, the Bulgarian analysis concluded that the goal of the Serbian military was to destroy the Kosovo Liberation Army, and not to expel the entire Albanian population. He also pointed to a factual flaw in the German government's presentation - it had named the plan "Potkova", which is the Croatian and Bulgarian word for horseshoe, whereas the Serbian word is potkovica.
.
.
.
Fool the American people once, your fault,. Fool us twice, our fault. Try to fool us a third time, there'll be hell to pay at the polls.
That's why Congress backed off. How much shit can a shitshucker shuck when a shucker's shackled to his own shit.
To put it in politically correct terms: "Three times and you're out, Jack"
Excellent post. Absolutely agree.
Syrian

Waterford, CT

#5 Dec 24, 2013
mxlplx wrote:
The article states:
"Rather than serving as honest brokers -- evaluating the Syrian evidence fairly and openly -- the Times and most of the mainstream U.S. media have simply reprised their propaganda roles played so disastrously a decade ago in the run-up to the Iraq War"
The author almost has it right. The propaganda role goes further back than Iraq directly to Yugoslavia, a campaign so successful that it made misinformation on Iraq a child's play of a sequel.
Here's just one of many propaganda coups of that campaign that the Times championed:
CRISIS IN THE BALKANS: THE OVERVIEW; ALLIES EXPECTING 'MANY MORE WEEKS' OF AIR CAMPAIGN
By CRAIG R. WHITNEY
New York Times, Published: April 11, 1999
The operation -- code-named ''horseshoe,'' or ''potkova'' in the Serbian (fine investigative journalism here) language -- was being planned even as Mr. Milosevic was promising to withdraw the police and military forces that had already begun driving Albanians out of their homes, the German Defense Minister, Rudolf Scharping, said in Bonn this week.
''Our analysis of 'Operation Horseshoe' sadly confirms what we had inferred during the negotiations, which is that Milosevic wanted to win time to prepare a systematic deportation,'' Mr. Scharping said.
.
.
.
.
In April 2000, Heinz Loquai, a retired German brigadier general, published a book on the war that revealed that the German government's account had been based on a general analysis by a Bulgarian intelligence agency of Yugoslav behaviour in the war, which was turned into a specific "plan" by the German Defence Ministry.
According to Loquai, the Bulgarian analysis concluded that the goal of the Serbian military was to destroy the Kosovo Liberation Army, and not to expel the entire Albanian population. He also pointed to a factual flaw in the German government's presentation - it had named the plan "Potkova", which is the Croatian and Bulgarian word for horseshoe, whereas the Serbian word is potkovica.
.
.
.
Fool the American people once, your fault,. Fool us twice, our fault. Try to fool us a third time, there'll be hell to pay at the polls.
That's why Congress backed off. How much shit can a shitshucker shuck when a shucker's shackled to his own shit.
To put it in politically correct terms: "Three times and you're out, Jack"
Absolutely agree. Excellent post.

Since: Feb 07

Location hidden

#6 Dec 24, 2013
good information.
mxlplx wrote:
The article states:
"Rather than serving as honest brokers -- evaluating the Syrian evidence fairly and openly -- the Times and most of the mainstream U.S. media have simply reprised their propaganda roles played so disastrously a decade ago in the run-up to the Iraq War"
The author almost has it right. The propaganda role goes further back than Iraq directly to Yugoslavia, a campaign so successful that it made misinformation on Iraq a child's play of a sequel.
Here's just one of many propaganda coups of that campaign that the Times championed:
CRISIS IN THE BALKANS: THE OVERVIEW; ALLIES EXPECTING 'MANY MORE WEEKS' OF AIR CAMPAIGN
By CRAIG R. WHITNEY
New York Times, Published: April 11, 1999
The operation -- code-named ''horseshoe,'' or ''potkova'' in the Serbian (fine investigative journalism here) language -- was being planned even as Mr. Milosevic was promising to withdraw the police and military forces that had already begun driving Albanians out of their homes, the German Defense Minister, Rudolf Scharping, said in Bonn this week.
''Our analysis of 'Operation Horseshoe' sadly confirms what we had inferred during the negotiations, which is that Milosevic wanted to win time to prepare a systematic deportation,'' Mr. Scharping said.
.
.
.
.
In April 2000, Heinz Loquai, a retired German brigadier general, published a book on the war that revealed that the German government's account had been based on a general analysis by a Bulgarian intelligence agency of Yugoslav behaviour in the war, which was turned into a specific "plan" by the German Defence Ministry.
According to Loquai, the Bulgarian analysis concluded that the goal of the Serbian military was to destroy the Kosovo Liberation Army, and not to expel the entire Albanian population. He also pointed to a factual flaw in the German government's presentation - it had named the plan "Potkova", which is the Croatian and Bulgarian word for horseshoe, whereas the Serbian word is potkovica.
.
.
.
Fool the American people once, your fault,. Fool us twice, our fault. Try to fool us a third time, there'll be hell to pay at the polls.
That's why Congress backed off. How much shit can a shitshucker shuck when a shucker's shackled to his own shit.
To put it in politically correct terms: "Three times and you're out, Jack"
George

Red Deer, Canada

#7 Dec 24, 2013
mxlplx wrote:
The article states:
"Rather than serving as honest brokers -- evaluating the Syrian evidence fairly and openly -- the Times and most of the mainstream U.S. media have simply reprised their propaganda roles played so disastrously a decade ago in the run-up to the Iraq War"
The author almost has it right. The propaganda role goes further back than Iraq directly to Yugoslavia, a campaign so successful that it made misinformation on Iraq a child's play of a sequel.
Here's just one of many propaganda coups of that campaign that the Times championed:
CRISIS IN THE BALKANS: THE OVERVIEW; ALLIES EXPECTING 'MANY MORE WEEKS' OF AIR CAMPAIGN
By CRAIG R. WHITNEY
New York Times, Published: April 11, 1999
The operation -- code-named ''horseshoe,'' or ''potkova'' in the Serbian (fine investigative journalism here) language -- was being planned even as Mr. Milosevic was promising to withdraw the police and military forces that had already begun driving Albanians out of their homes, the German Defense Minister, Rudolf Scharping, said in Bonn this week.
''Our analysis of 'Operation Horseshoe' sadly confirms what we had inferred during the negotiations, which is that Milosevic wanted to win time to prepare a systematic deportation,'' Mr. Scharping said.
.
.
.
.
In April 2000, Heinz Loquai, a retired German brigadier general, published a book on the war that revealed that the German government's account had been based on a general analysis by a Bulgarian intelligence agency of Yugoslav behaviour in the war, which was turned into a specific "plan" by the German Defence Ministry.
According to Loquai, the Bulgarian analysis concluded that the goal of the Serbian military was to destroy the Kosovo Liberation Army, and not to expel the entire Albanian population. He also pointed to a factual flaw in the German government's presentation - it had named the plan "Potkova", which is the Croatian and Bulgarian word for horseshoe, whereas the Serbian word is potkovica.
.
.
.
Fool the American people once, your fault,. Fool us twice, our fault. Try to fool us a third time, there'll be hell to pay at the polls.
That's why Congress backed off. How much shit can a shitshucker shuck when a shucker's shackled to his own shit.
To put it in politically correct terms: "Three times and you're out, Jack"
I have no idea if your facts are right but you have proven you can do some research, so why do you not do some research on the Syrian War to get the facts correct over the last 3.5 years??
ocxz

Sainte-clotilde, Reunion

#8 Dec 24, 2013
George wrote:
<quoted text>
I have no idea if your facts are right but you have proven you can do some research, so why do you not do some research on the Syrian War to get the facts correct over the last 3.5 years??
We do we do, but at the same time it's getting tiring to try and educate dumb people that are too inapt to do their own research and still mock other people comments when they don't understand.

Why don't you show us the research YOU have done over Syria
Why don't you give us references of BOOKS you have READ on Syria
Why don't you pin point documentaries or factual information on Syria prior to this unrest and specify why it never made any headline in the news such as Botswana or Costa Rica.
Syrian

Waterford, CT

#9 Dec 25, 2013
ocxz wrote:
<quoted text>
We do we do, but at the same time it's getting tiring to try and educate dumb people that are too inapt to do their own research and still mock other people comments when they don't understand.
Why don't you show us the research YOU have done over Syria
Why don't you give us references of BOOKS you have READ on Syria
Why don't you pin point documentaries or factual information on Syria prior to this unrest and specify why it never made any headline in the news such as Botswana or Costa Rica.
George is beyond clueless.
Jacques Strauhp

Philadelphia, PA

#10 Dec 25, 2013
nytimes and the united nitwits

2 pillars of liberal idiocy
lamer

Hamilton, OH

#11 Dec 25, 2013
seems there is a lot of propaganda as of late in regards to syria. Just the thing to put a repub in the white house come 2016 is another long, dirty war started by a D.
Syrian

Waterford, CT

#13 Dec 26, 2013
Jacques Strauhp wrote:
nytimes and the united nitwits
2 pillars of liberal idiocy
LOL!!!
ocxz

Paris, France

#14 Dec 27, 2013
lamer wrote:
seems there is a lot of propaganda as of late in regards to syria. Just the thing to put a repub in the white house come 2016 is another long, dirty war started by a D.
D or R come and go, but the wars are permanent.
Syrian

Waterford, CT

#15 Dec 27, 2013
ocxz wrote:
<quoted text>
D or R come and go, but the wars are permanent.
Very true.
George

Red Deer, Canada

#16 Dec 27, 2013
ocxz wrote:
<quoted text>
We do we do, but at the same time it's getting tiring to try and educate dumb people that are too inapt to do their own research and still mock other people comments when they don't understand.
Why don't you show us the research YOU have done over Syria
Why don't you give us references of BOOKS you have READ on Syria
Why don't you pin point documentaries or factual information on Syria prior to this unrest and specify why it never made any headline in the news such as Botswana or Costa Rica.
I have and others have but you and Syrian are such idiots that are just yes men for someone that can type more than 3 words in a post. You both have your own tunnel visions and cannot accept any truth printed or reported because you have a biased brain that cannot accept truth, so why bother any longer. Syrian all he ever says is I agree, or excellent post, even though he has no idea what the post even says, you just disagree with everything and anything anyone but mxlplx or gray post.

WTF is that about Botswana and Costa Rica, this is about Syria and just go back 4 years, we all have but you refused to read and accept any of it because you prefer to kiss Assad the Terrorists butt, you would bow to him no matter what, well you may have to change your tune soon because Putin is about to change his loyalty to Assad and switch to the Syrian People without Assad. Assad the Terrorist has killed too many of Syrian citizens and is now making Russia look bad for supporting him.
George

Red Deer, Canada

#17 Dec 27, 2013
Syrian wrote:
<quoted text> Very true.
His statement makes no sense, so you agreed with him so explain to us!!!
George

Red Deer, Canada

#18 Dec 27, 2013
lamer wrote:
seems there is a lot of propaganda as of late in regards to syria. Just the thing to put a repub in the white house come 2016 is another long, dirty war started by a D.
So how did the Democrats start a war???
Syrian

Waterford, CT

#20 Dec 27, 2013
lamer wrote:
seems there is a lot of propaganda as of late in regards to syria. Just the thing to put a repub in the white house come 2016 is another long, dirty war started by a D.
The American public is totally fed up with the US getting involved in Middle Eastern wars. Obama almost caused a riot when he was contemplating an attack on Syria, so future politicians should be very reluctant to make those same mistakes.
Oliver Cromwell

Preston, UK

#21 Dec 27, 2013
George wrote:
<quoted text>
So how did the Democrats start a war???
Bill Clinton started a big one in Bosnia and Obama started one in Libya.
George

Red Deer, Canada

#22 Dec 27, 2013
Oliver Cromwell wrote:
<quoted text> Bill Clinton started a big one in Bosnia and Obama started one in Libya.
Hey Dipshit, read his comment again and see what country he is talking about, but no surprise on this side that you cannot read so thanks for proving it again.

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