New York newspaper to list more gun permit holders after uproar

Dec 29, 2012 Full story: WTAX-AM Springfield 74

A suburban New York newspaper that sparked an uproar among gun enthusiasts by publishing names and addresses of residents holding pistol permits is now planning to publish even more identities of permit-toting locals.

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“Uzi Does It”

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#43 Jan 8, 2013
Have Seen It Before wrote:
<quoted text>In New York the Right to own pertains only to rifles and shotguns. Handguns are a Permit Only item even for your private dwelling. That is the direct result of The Sullivan Act of 1911. A law sponsored by the biggest crook in the State to make sure that only HIS people were given the permits.
Correct, which means these names on the list published by the paper could most likely be determined democrats and social elites, not THE PEOPLE.

“Uzi Does It”

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#44 Jan 8, 2013
Get Out wrote:
<quoted text>
I don’t see anywhere “to keep” or “bear” in the 2A refers to the location own, open or concealed. I consider it my decision how my weapon will be carried and where I keep it.
The interpretation of the 2A straight forward and requires no compromises.
When a little girl comes up from the apple orchard bearing a basket of freshly picked apples, these apples are typically not concealed under her skirt.

People have a right to keep and bear arms, which means that people may bear these arms on their hips or from shoulder slings. Concealment of firearms is different in that it is regulated as state defined privilege. States that choose to not license but allow concealed carry privileges without permitting have in fact made the decision which was the state's authority to do so. In other words, simply because a state chooses to not use a scheme of permitting a privilege, this does not convert the privilege into a right.

“Why call 911? 1911 is faster”

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#45 Jan 8, 2013
Richard_ wrote:
<quoted text>When a little girl comes up from the apple orchard bearing a basket of freshly picked apples, these apples are typically not concealed under her skirt.
People have a right to keep and bear arms, which means that people may bear these arms on their hips or from shoulder slings. Concealment of firearms is different in that it is regulated as state defined privilege. States that choose to not license but allow concealed carry privileges without permitting have in fact made the decision which was the state's authority to do so. In other words, simply because a state chooses to not use a scheme of permitting a privilege, this does not convert the privilege into a right.
Why in the world would you compare concealing a firearm to a little girl carrying apples? The two are completely unrelated.

Bearing arms is carrying arms. The Second Amendment doesn’t make a distinction on the method of carriage.

There is no mention of hips, shoulders, slings or anything else. Why do you persist bearing arms is open carry?

“Uzi Does It”

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#46 Jan 8, 2013
eternal cynic wrote:
<quoted text>
Why in the world would you compare concealing a firearm to a little girl carrying apples? The two are completely unrelated.
Nope, they are totally related. Regardless, the states regulate concealed carry privileges with a license because concealment is not the same as bearing.

“Why call 911? 1911 is faster”

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#47 Jan 8, 2013
Richard_ wrote:
<quoted text>Nope, they are totally related. Regardless, the states regulate concealed carry privileges with a license because concealment is not the same as bearing.
Bearing simply means carry when applied to bearing arms. Nothing more, nothing less.
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#48 Jan 9, 2013
Richard_ wrote:
<quoted text>When a little girl comes up from the apple orchard bearing a basket of freshly picked apples, these apples are typically not concealed under her skirt.
People have a right to keep and bear arms, which means that people may bear these arms on their hips or from shoulder slings. Concealment of firearms is different in that it is regulated as state defined privilege. States that choose to not license but allow concealed carry privileges without permitting have in fact made the decision which was the state's authority to do so. In other words, simply because a state chooses to not use a scheme of permitting a privilege, this does not convert the privilege into a right.
Comparing carrying apples to guns??? If you want to let your State infringe on your right to “bear” carry open or concealed that’s up to you. I’ll continue to carry open or concealed whenever I want depending on my location and surroundings.

“Uzi Does It”

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#49 Jan 9, 2013
eternal cynic wrote:
<quoted text>
Bearing simply means carry when applied to bearing arms. Nothing more, nothing less.
Exactly, open carry, or bearing, is a right and concealed carry is a licensed privilege.

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#51 Jan 10, 2013
eternal cynic wrote:
<quoted text>
You need to lay off the drugs. Seek professional help. Even ISRA doesn’t like you. Now it’s time you call them anti-gun as well.
YOU are an antigun communist.

“Why call 911? 1911 is faster”

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Wesley Chapel, FL

#52 Jan 10, 2013
Tory II wrote:
<quoted text>YOU are an antigun communist.
You’re a loon. What’s your point?

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#53 Jan 10, 2013
Richard_ wrote:
<quoted text>Exactly, open carry, or bearing, is a right and concealed carry is a licensed privilege.
There you go adding open again. Bearing is carrying open or concealed. Find a definition which supports your claim.

“Uzi Does It”

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#54 Jan 10, 2013
eternal cynic wrote:
<quoted text>
There you go adding open again. Bearing is carrying open or concealed. Find a definition which supports your claim.
It's real simple, open carry is a right, concealed carry is a state regulated privilege.

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#55 Jan 10, 2013
Richard_ wrote:
<quoted text>It's real simple, open carry is a right, concealed carry is a state regulated privilege.
Go to New York and openly carry a handgun. See how fast you have an entourage of cops taking that handgun away from you. In New York ALL handguns must be registered to the person owning them and there are different levels of permit. Carry in New York is concealed IF you are issued a permit. Explain your Rights to them as they disarm you and take said handgun from you never to be seen again. You would also be taken into custody and probably released on a high dollar amount bond. The pistol is history at the very least and if they feel especially inclined you may be charged with a felony giving you a home in a State Prison for a couple of years. Let me know how you make out with that....

“Uzi Does It”

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#56 Jan 10, 2013
Have Seen It Before wrote:
<quoted text>Go to New York and openly carry a handgun. See how fast you have an entourage of cops taking that handgun away from you.
I can't help it of those self proclaimed enlightened punks wished their rights away, let them eat cake.

“Why call 911? 1911 is faster”

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#57 Jan 10, 2013
Richard_ wrote:
<quoted text>It's real simple, open carry is a right, concealed carry is a state regulated privilege.
Where does the US Constitution mention open carry?

Both concealed carry and open carry are covered by bearing arms. You *choose* to add open.

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#58 Jan 10, 2013
Bearing is open carry, as I said before, the girl from the orchard bearing a basket of apples doesn't do so with basket under her skirt.

“Why call 911? 1911 is faster”

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#59 Jan 10, 2013
Richard_ wrote:
Bearing is open carry, as I said before, the girl from the orchard bearing a basket of apples doesn't do so with basket under her skirt.
You’re a nut. Bearing arms simply means carrying them.

From the 1828 Webster’s dictionary

BEARING, ppr. Supporting; carrying; producing.

To understand true intent of the second amendment we must view words for what they meant during the time period.

Does the second amendment state open carry?

She could carry the apples under her skirt and she would still be bearing apples.

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#62 Jan 11, 2013
Richard_ wrote:
Bearing is open carry, as I said before, the girl from the orchard bearing a basket of apples doesn't do so with basket under her skirt.
The antigun communist eternal cynic is on your side except he doesn't want anyone except his comrades (police) armed.

“Uzi Does It”

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#63 Jan 11, 2013
eternal cynic wrote:
<quoted text>
Bearing arms simply means carrying them.
From the 1828 Webster’s dictionary
BEARING, ppr. Supporting; carrying; producing.
Exactly and bearing is one act, a right protected under the constitution and by constitution as well, the act of concealment is another separate act, a state regulated privilege.

“Why call 911? 1911 is faster”

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Wesley Chapel, FL

#64 Jan 11, 2013
Richard_ wrote:
<quoted text>Exactly and bearing is one act, a right protected under the constitution and by constitution as well, the act of concealment is another separate act, a state regulated privilege.
Concealed or open carry is bearing. Do you have a reset button?

“Why call 911? 1911 is faster”

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#65 Jan 11, 2013
Tory II wrote:
<quoted text>The antigun communist eternal cynic is on your side except he doesn't want anyone except his comrades (police) armed.
Your mental condition has worsened over the past couple of years. Maybe it’s time for a new foil hat.

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