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Poll: Majority Supports Path to Citizenship for Illegal Immigrants

There are 1474 comments on the KVOR-AM Colorado Springs story from Nov 14, 2012, titled Poll: Majority Supports Path to Citizenship for Illegal Immigrants. In it, KVOR-AM Colorado Springs reports that:

Most Americans support a path to citizenship for illegal immigrants, an issue that may be high on the agenda of newly re-elected President Obama and the 113th Congress, given the increased importance of nonwhites -- including Hispanic voters -- in the nation's political equation.

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“Gloria Ad Caput Venire”

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#335 Nov 25, 2012
positronium wrote:
<quoted text>What is so unreasonable about enforcing our existing laws, Pamela? I have posted this same question to you years ago. Don't you think it is time to answer it? BY NOW? PAMELA?
Pamela wrote:
<quoted text>What part of this do you still not understand?? Why does the government not deport the 12 million illegals?? You answer the question. I told you both twice now it is because their children are legal and have the right at 18 to bring them all back here. If you have illegals here with 5 legal kids, one is 18, our immigration law says the one who is 18 now has the right to bring his/her illegal parents here, they can legally bring their entire family here from Mexico if they were born here and are 18 or older. What part of this do you not get??
How many of the 12 million illegals have legal kids here?? ALL OF THEM. So soon if not already, they can legally stay here based on the 18 year old kids being citizens. So you can't deport them, this is why they are not being deported.
What part of end welfare do you both not get???
You are lying that I am a liberal over my telling you to end welfare. Liberals do not want to end welfare. That guy makes it up that I am a liberal because I am telling him the truth that there is no point in deporting people who have legal kids here because they can legally come right back when the kids turn 18. Deal with reality.
You have 12 million illegals who have kids born here so they are citizens and they can bring their parents here legally once they turn 18, so the ONLY thing you can do is end welfare. That would stop them from wanting to be here. If you can't solve the problem, you can't solve it. If you're just going to keep making it up that the politicians are going to deport them, you're not going to solve anything. NO one is going to deport them. Both parties left the southern border open for the last 30 years. Reagan passed an amnesty, Bush tried to pass an amnesty, Hanity says now to pass an amnesty, so clearly they all know the kids make it legal for the parents to be here. So you can't deport them. That's why no one does, that's why both parties try to pass amnesties. Neither party has ever tried to deport them.
Just what is wrong with asking you to advocate for total enforcement of our existing immigration laws, Pamela. Welfare will take care of itself. OUR LAWS are precisely at the bottom of our "grass roots". Enforcement is the blade of that grass at the top.
Pamela

Citrus Heights, CA

#336 Nov 25, 2012
positronium wrote:
positronium wrote:
<quoted text>What is so unreasonable about enforcing our existing laws, Pamela? I have posted this same question to you years ago. Don't you think it is time to answer it? BY NOW? PAMELA?<quoted text>Just what is wrong with asking you to advocate for total enforcement of our existing immigration laws, Pamela. Welfare will take care of itself. OUR LAWS are precisely at the bottom of our "grass roots". Enforcement is the blade of that grass at the top.
Neither party supports deporting them. Neither party is going to do it. Both parties support doing an amnesty. So why is that? Because like I told you, this is the fourth time now, their kids are citizens and that allows them to all come here anyway when their kids become adults, and since they have been coming here for about 30 years now, most all of them have adult citizen kids here. That's why neither party will waste money and time deporting people who have kids who are U.S. citizens about to turn 18. Because they can legally come right back here. Who in either party is supporting deportation? NO one is. It's because they let the kids become automatic citizens, so the parents can be here once the kids turn 18. Everyone of them who had a kid in the U.S. can then be here legally. That's the real problem and the politicians know that.

“Gloria Ad Caput Venire”

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#337 Nov 25, 2012
positronium wrote:
positronium wrote:
<quoted text>What is so unreasonable about enforcing our existing laws, Pamela? I have posted this same question to you years ago. Don't you think it is time to answer it? BY NOW? PAMELA?<quoted text>Just what is wrong with asking you to advocate for total enforcement of our existing immigration laws, Pamela. Welfare will take care of itself. OUR LAWS are precisely at the bottom of our "grass roots". Enforcement is the blade of that grass at the top.
Pamela wrote:
<quoted text>Neither party supports deporting them. Neither party is going to do it. Both parties support doing an amnesty. So why is that? Because like I told you, this is the fourth time now, their kids are citizens and that allows them to all come here anyway when their kids become adults, and since they have been coming here for about 30 years now, most all of them have adult citizen kids here. That's why neither party will waste money and time deporting people who have kids who are U.S. citizens about to turn 18. Because they can legally come right back here. Who in either party is supporting deportation? NO one is. It's because they let the kids become automatic citizens, so the parents can be here once the kids turn 18. Everyone of them who had a kid in the U.S. can then be here legally. That's the real problem and the politicians know that.
You still haven't answered the question, Pamela. Waiting.......
Pamela

Citrus Heights, CA

#338 Nov 25, 2012
positronium wrote:
positronium wrote:
positronium wrote:
<quoted text>What is so unreasonable about enforcing our existing laws, Pamela? I have posted this same question to you years ago. Don't you think it is time to answer it? BY NOW? PAMELA?<quoted text>Just what is wrong with asking you to advocate for total enforcement of our existing immigration laws, Pamela. Welfare will take care of itself. OUR LAWS are precisely at the bottom of our "grass roots". Enforcement is the blade of that grass at the top.<quoted text>You still haven't answered the question, Pamela. Waiting.......
Neither party is going to deport them. Who are you going to get to deport them??

Ralff

“United We Stand”

Since: Dec 11

Divided We Fall

#339 Nov 25, 2012
Pamela wrote:
<quoted text>You and Ralff find common sense and reasoning out of your reach. You cannot tell 12 million illegals to leave because they all have legal kids here, our laws say when the kids turn 18 they can all stay here, their entire families can come here. So you have no legal ground to deport them and the politicians know their kids are citizens and that they can't get rid of them by deporting them. If their oldest child is 15, in three years the child that is a citizen turns 18, then then as an adult are entitled to bring their entire family here. You two are NOT using common sense. You are not dealing with our immigration laws and you are not dealing with WHY the politicians don't deport them, because they can't get rid of them by deporting them because their grown kids are citizens with legal rights to bring their illegal parents here legally. That's why they don't deport them.
I told Ralff you have to end welfare if you want to get rid of them. You all can't figure that out and when I told him that he comes back mean and dumb as hell going on and on as if the government is going to deport the illegals. THEY ARE NOT NOT going to deport them. Deal with what is, not what you make up that is not ever going to happen. Deal with our immigration laws and deal with the only real way to get rid of them, which is by ending welfare programs. That's common sense and critical thinking for Christ's sake, not your low IQ bash smart women idiot hillbilly crapola.
You just made the most ignorant post of the day.

Ralff

“United We Stand”

Since: Dec 11

Divided We Fall

#340 Nov 25, 2012
Pamela wrote:
<quoted text>What part of this do you still not understand?? Why does the government not deport the 12 million illegals?? You answer the question. I told you both twice now it is because their children are legal and have the right at 18 to bring them all back here. If you have illegals here with 5 legal kids, one is 18, our immigration law says the one who is 18 now has the right to bring his/her illegal parents here, they can legally bring their entire family here from Mexico if they were born here and are 18 or older. What part of this do you not get??
How many of the 12 million illegals have legal kids here?? ALL OF THEM. So soon if not already, they can legally stay here based on the 18 year old kids being citizens. So you can't deport them, this is why they are not being deported.
What part of end welfare do you both not get???
You are lying that I am a liberal over my telling you to end welfare. Liberals do not want to end welfare. That guy makes it up that I am a liberal because I am telling him the truth that there is no point in deporting people who have legal kids here because they can legally come right back when the kids turn 18. Deal with reality.
You have 12 million illegals who have kids born here so they are citizens and they can bring their parents here legally once they turn 18, so the ONLY thing you can do is end welfare. That would stop them from wanting to be here. If you can't solve the problem, you can't solve it. If you're just going to keep making it up that the politicians are going to deport them, you're not going to solve anything. NO one is going to deport them. Both parties left the southern border open for the last 30 years. Reagan passed an amnesty, Bush tried to pass an amnesty, Hanity says now to pass an amnesty, so clearly they all know the kids make it legal for the parents to be here. So you can't deport them. That's why no one does, that's why both parties try to pass amnesties. Neither party has ever tried to deport them.
Stop pretending we must deport all 12 million of them. You know that isn't true it is just the propagada you wish to push. They are proven runners, when things get tough they will leave their families and do whatever it takes to make their lives better. That's how they got here.

Full court press and they will flee fast!
freebird

Long Beach, CA

#341 Nov 25, 2012
Pamela wrote:
<quoted text>Neither party supports deporting them. Neither party is going to do it. Both parties support doing an amnesty. So why is that? Because like I told you, this is the fourth time now, their kids are citizens and that allows them to all come here anyway when their kids become adults, and since they have been coming here for about 30 years now, most all of them have adult citizen kids here. That's why neither party will waste money and time deporting people who have kids who are U.S. citizens about to turn 18. Because they can legally come right back here. Who in either party is supporting deportation? NO one is. It's because they let the kids become automatic citizens, so the parents can be here once the kids turn 18. Everyone of them who had a kid in the U.S. can then be here legally. That's the real problem and the politicians know that.
Neither party will deport them because we have too many people like you giving them excuse for not doing their job.

Ralff

“United We Stand”

Since: Dec 11

Divided We Fall

#342 Nov 25, 2012
Pamela wrote:
<quoted text>Neither party supports deporting them. Neither party is going to do it. Both parties support doing an amnesty. So why is that? Because like I told you, this is the fourth time now, their kids are citizens and that allows them to all come here anyway when their kids become adults, and since they have been coming here for about 30 years now, most all of them have adult citizen kids here. That's why neither party will waste money and time deporting people who have kids who are U.S. citizens about to turn 18. Because they can legally come right back here. Who in either party is supporting deportation? NO one is. It's because they let the kids become automatic citizens, so the parents can be here once the kids turn 18. Everyone of them who had a kid in the U.S. can then be here legally. That's the real problem and the politicians know that.
"Neither party supports deporting them. Neither party is going to do it"

And how'd that "dream act" thing work out for them? They get the support they needed for that? How many times did they try it?

Ralff

“United We Stand”

Since: Dec 11

Divided We Fall

#343 Nov 25, 2012
Pamela wrote:
<quoted text>Neither party supports deporting them. Neither party is going to do it. Both parties support doing an amnesty. So why is that? Because like I told you, this is the fourth time now, their kids are citizens and that allows them to all come here anyway when their kids become adults, and since they have been coming here for about 30 years now, most all of them have adult citizen kids here. That's why neither party will waste money and time deporting people who have kids who are U.S. citizens about to turn 18. Because they can legally come right back here. Who in either party is supporting deportation? NO one is. It's because they let the kids become automatic citizens, so the parents can be here once the kids turn 18. Everyone of them who had a kid in the U.S. can then be here legally. That's the real problem and the politicians know that.
Citizens are free to stay or go as they choose but minors are the charge of their parents. If an illegal is deported and refuses to take the child he/she should be first imprison for child abandonment and after their time is served deported. Once the citizen child is of age he or she is free to return here if they choose.

“This is all a game”

Since: Jan 09

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#344 Nov 25, 2012
Ralff wrote:
<quoted text>
Stop pretending we must deport all 12 million of them. You know that isn't true it is just the propagada you wish to push. They are proven runners, when things get tough they will leave their families and do whatever it takes to make their lives better. That's how they got here.
Full court press and they will flee fast!
That is the stupidest comment of the day..the reason why the majority came here in the first place is because "of their families"....you are truly clueless.

Ralff

“United We Stand”

Since: Dec 11

Divided We Fall

#345 Nov 25, 2012
freebird wrote:
<quoted text>
Neither party will deport them because we have too many people like you giving them excuse for not doing their job.
We have political stalemates all the time but they get resolved eventually.

He wants to hammer home the fact that neither side will deport at the moment but he won't look at the fact that the dream act has failed so many times at the vote of the same politicians.

I want enforcement to win, he wants to grant amnesty.
freebird

Long Beach, CA

#346 Nov 25, 2012
Sharrp Shooter wrote:
<quoted text>
That is the stupidest comment of the day..the reason why the majority came here in the first place is because "of their families"....you are truly clueless.
Are they all related or is this one of those La Racists excuses? Plus, we don't care why they came, it's time to round up the herd and move them down south.

Ralff

“United We Stand”

Since: Dec 11

Divided We Fall

#347 Nov 25, 2012
Sharrp Shooter wrote:
<quoted text>
That is the stupidest comment of the day..the reason why the majority came here in the first place is because "of their families"....you are truly clueless.
The families that they banded? Well, I guess if I were you and I loved my family I would leave them too.

Ralff

“United We Stand”

Since: Dec 11

Divided We Fall

#348 Nov 25, 2012
Sharrp Shooter wrote:
<quoted text>
That is the stupidest comment of the day..the reason why the majority came here in the first place is because "of their families"....you are truly clueless.
Which "family" are you referring to, the one they left in their homeland or the one they made here with some down and out teen and their new jackpot baby?

Ralff

“United We Stand”

Since: Dec 11

Divided We Fall

#349 Nov 25, 2012
freebird wrote:
<quoted text>
Are they all related or is this one of those La Racists excuses? Plus, we don't care why they came, it's time to round up the herd and move them down south.
Actually I do care why they came. Maybe we can use that to motivate them to go home while spending less time and resources on it.

Here for the money? Cut it off.

Here for family? Make sure the family would be better off if they were gone...
Pamela

Citrus Heights, CA

#350 Nov 25, 2012
Ralff wrote:
<quoted text>Citizens are free to stay or go as they choose but minors are the charge of their parents. If an illegal is deported and refuses to take the child he/she should be first imprison for child abandonment and after their time is served deported. Once the citizen child is of age he or she is free to return here if they choose.
this is the FIFTH time I am saying this, and yet you still do not get it. Say you deport a family, okay, fine, then the minute the kids, who are all U.S. citizens by the way, the minute one of them turns 18, our immigration laws say a U.S. citizen can bring a family here from another country. So if you send them back to Mexico and they have a 16 year old, two years later, that kid is now 18, an adult, now the entire family can come back legally.

First of all, they should have changed the law that says if a person is born here they are automatically a citizen. This is the problem. they come across the border to have the kids here so they are citizens because they know all they need is one anchor baby and that anchors them here for legal citizenship when the kid turns 18.

Both parties let this go on for 30 years because they wanted cheap labor here for the corporations and because the politicians are rich and do not live around Mexicans, they had no clue that they were having so many kids and would become the majority of the population. They were not paying attention to what was going on.

All you can do is either get the government to stop giving automatic citizenship to those who are born here with illegal parents, change our immigration laws so that we no longer allow the families to come here when the kids turn 18, and end welfare so they cannot afford to have so many kids. That's all you can do. Neither political party is going to do one thing for you. They were just saying on Fox that the Republican party needs to dump the Tea Party. Fox used the Tea Party to try and control the elections, now that they did not win, they want to dump them. So who in Washington is supposedly helping the tea party to deport the illegals and after you deport them and then their kids are 18 and they can all legally come back, what have you accomplished? Wouldn't it make more sense to end welfare so they would be dirt azz poor and not want to stay here and so they could not afford to have ten kids on welfare?? Either that or fight to change the immigration laws so that immigrants here can't be on welfare and so that the kids of the illegals would not be allowed to bring their whole families here when they become adults.
Pamela

Citrus Heights, CA

#351 Nov 25, 2012
freebird wrote:
<quoted text>
Neither party will deport them because we have too many people like you giving them excuse for not doing their job.
It has zero to do with me. the Repubs lost the election. they now want the Hispanic vote. Politicans care about ONE thing, winning, getting votes. They don't care about any of us.

Ralff

“United We Stand”

Since: Dec 11

Divided We Fall

#352 Nov 25, 2012
Pamela wrote:
<quoted text>this is the FIFTH time I am saying this, and yet you still do not get it. Say you deport a family, okay, fine, then the minute the kids, who are all U.S. citizens by the way, the minute one of them turns 18, our immigration laws say a U.S. citizen can bring a family here from another country. So if you send them back to Mexico and they have a 16 year old, two years later, that kid is now 18, an adult, now the entire family can come back legally.
First of all, they should have changed the law that says if a person is born here they are automatically a citizen. This is the problem. they come across the border to have the kids here so they are citizens because they know all they need is one anchor baby and that anchors them here for legal citizenship when the kid turns 18.
Both parties let this go on for 30 years because they wanted cheap labor here for the corporations and because the politicians are rich and do not live around Mexicans, they had no clue that they were having so many kids and would become the majority of the population. They were not paying attention to what was going on.
All you can do is either get the government to stop giving automatic citizenship to those who are born here with illegal parents, change our immigration laws so that we no longer allow the families to come here when the kids turn 18, and end welfare so they cannot afford to have so many kids. That's all you can do. Neither political party is going to do one thing for you. They were just saying on Fox that the Republican party needs to dump the Tea Party. Fox used the Tea Party to try and control the elections, now that they did not win, they want to dump them. So who in Washington is supposedly helping the tea party to deport the illegals and after you deport them and then their kids are 18 and they can all legally come back, what have you accomplished? Wouldn't it make more sense to end welfare so they would be dirt azz poor and not want to stay here and so they could not afford to have ten kids on welfare?? Either that or fight to change the immigration laws so that immigrants here can't be on welfare and so that the kids of the illegals would not be allowed to bring their whole families here when they become adults.
You don't seem to be listening. I am one of the strongest supporters of changing the anchor baby law. I have told you that before. Now back to the deportation and your projected return. First, if they grow up somewhere else they may not be interested in coming back her. Second if they do they may not bring their family with them and if they do, maybe not the whole family. Third, even if they do, we were rid of them and the problems they bring for all of the years in between.
Got it?

Ralff

“United We Stand”

Since: Dec 11

Divided We Fall

#353 Nov 25, 2012
Pamela wrote:
<quoted text>It has zero to do with me. the Repubs lost the election. they now want the Hispanic vote. Politicans care about ONE thing, winning, getting votes. They don't care about any of us.
You are just catching on to that? You are new to this country, aren't you?

Now think about this, since Obama can't run again why would he bother supporting amnesty? It's not like he want to gain any votes from it, he already got all the votes he will ever need.

“This is all a game”

Since: Jan 09

Location hidden

#354 Nov 25, 2012
Ralff wrote:
<quoted text> Which "family" are you referring to, the one they left in their homeland or the one they made here with some down and out teen and their new jackpot baby?
LOL, you moron..again your gibberish validates your

stupidity.........

funny thing there's not a damn thing you or your robe wearing

compadres can do about it.....word of advice, if you were smart..

(LOL)..y'all would learn how to use the inevitable to benefit our

country....you can bet your azz business and politics have think

tanks working on it....you can sit there whine... HAHAHAHA!!!

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