Stopping psychiatric drugs could be tragic - LA Daily News

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Psychiatrists say it's a common scenario - troubled patients stop taking their medicine, because of cost, side effects, the stigma, or delusions that they don't need it.

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Sue

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Feb 20, 2008
 
This article smacks of Big Pharma-supporting, fear-mongering, period. Now, I'm not a Dr. and do not claim to know the specifics of Kazmierczak's disorder, but I do know that companies like Ely-Lilly depend on "inventing" long-term disorders to keep people on drugs they don't need for the length of their lives so they can turn a profit. There is no aspect of "healing" in Western medicine – it's about diagnosing a long-term disorder and finding the appropriate drug for it, even if it makes you homicidal. Nowhere in this article does it give mention to alternative medicines, or a diet without processed foods, or eliminating toxins from your home environment – all aspects that contribute to your state of health and mind. Kazmierczak's senseless act points to the desperate need our society has to investigate holistic systems of health created to maintain health and well-being; we don't need this kind of fear-peddling propaganda backed by a for-profit health system. This is not an advancement of civilization of any kind.
Yada

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Feb 25, 2008
 
There is a lot of risk in just stopping medications with certain kinds of illnesses as in Kazmierczek's case. He went manic and stopped his medications completely which fed into his grandiosity, rage and impaired judgment. he neded up acting in that state which led to loss of life which could have been prevented with his cooperation. Drug companies did not create these mental illnesses. They have been with humanity for over five thousand years of recorded history.

I have commented on this forum on that for more than two years.

He was psychotic as an adolescent. His illness drove his parents to place him outside of the home. He had a history of harming himself. Spring and Fall are very dangerous times for people with his illness. As we globally warm Spring seems to appear ealier in terms of day light length over the last decade.

Last year we had Virginia tech in the Spring.
Eddie

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Feb 27, 2008
 
There is no such thing as a 'safe drug'. The FDA approves drugs based on 'risk/benifit' ratio. The problem is that what might be an 'acceptable risk' to the FDA may not be acceptable to some patients. But even worse than that is that clinical trials cannot really uncover all potential risks of drugs since they are limited in the amount of information. So the bottom line, study the risks your self. A good place to start is www.adverse-drug-reaction.net
Pati

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Feb 27, 2008
 
Starting psychiatric drugs can be tragic too. The problem is that when you go to a Dr all they want to do is give you drugs. The side effects are sometimes worse than the actual disorder and it seems that once taken the problem worsens. Though I have been depressed over the years for various reasons, I have avoided the RX method of treatment out of fear.. I had a sister who suffered from several psychological issues, the drugs gave some relief to the symptoms but caused others and as they changed the meds and rediagonsed her with other things I swear the switching of meds caused them. She would stop and they would try different things. Never did any Dr tell her to change eating or excerise or organic types of treatment. My ex was also BI-polar, I strongly believe it was caused by a chemical imbalance due to drug use that brought about the end result. He was a hard working likeable guy, but he was a binger, and a self mediator. The Drs knew this and still gave him so many different drugs to not only control the bipolar disorder but the symptoms caused by the meds as well. It is a nice idea to think you write a RX and the person will follow it to the letter, but these people are suffering from mental issues that affect their brain and do not for various reasons always take the meds. Drs need to be more responsible for monitoring the patient through the course of time. It is too easy to label someone with something and write an Rx and be done. How many people are misdiagnosed every day and put on drugs that affect their brains. It saddens me when something like this happens. I can not imagine what is going through the mind of someone who commits such acts, but I know that it is a cross over of the brains wiring system that removes people from reality and causes every emotion form rage to love to go off the charts. I have lost two very special people in the last 5 years that suffered from bipolar disorder and were medicated through the years but never helped.
Yada

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Feb 27, 2008
 
Eddie wrote:
There is no such thing as a 'safe drug'. The FDA approves drugs based on 'risk/benifit' ratio. The problem is that what might be an 'acceptable risk' to the FDA may not be acceptable to some patients. But even worse than that is that clinical trials cannot really uncover all potential risks of drugs since they are limited in the amount of information. So the bottom line, study the risks your self. A good place to start is www.adverse-drug-reaction.net
I agree. Thank you for reminding us all of that.
Yada

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Feb 27, 2008
 
Pati wrote:
Starting psychiatric drugs can be tragic too.
I feel bad for your loss.
You are correct though that starting of certain medications can be tragic. I have commented on that multiple times on this forum also.
A lot of people with manic-depressive types of illnesses (Bipolar disorder) are seen as depressed as they are deeply despondent and saddened. But antidepressants and stimulants are not treatments for these types of illesses and atually make them worse. People become suicidal and homicidal on them who have such underlying illnesses.
I don't think doctors can do more, honey. Doctors don't have as much power as you seem to fathom they do.
The system is set up to foreshorten the doctors' time with the patient and so rob people of proper care by too many unnecessary medications and lack of therapeutic education for preventative purposes which is what happens with too little time. People are diverted to too many specialists and prescribed too many different medications all due to lack of understanding what the patient meant to convey and so what is wrong with them all because of too little time and the press for more money. Most of their many doctors don't even know what all physicians they patients see. Hence, the talk of medication errors, poorly controlled chronic illness and the like.
I run practices and we try to do all we can to get people the treatment they need but we have insurance in our way and all manner of various big wigs who determine how and what treatment will be. We end up giving away free care a significant portion of the time for which we get screamed at by our big wigs. But we do it just to protect the patient and try to ensure they get half way decent treatment.
Also people with poorly controlled mental illnesses in general wear out their families and friends and end up alone. So no matter how much we stipulate they must have somebody with them to help them they always come alone. They lose the instructions that are written out for them. They forget their medications or just don't feel to take them after a while. They lose the medication bags and pill boxes we give out freely to them.
Doctors do tell them about heath changes they would benefit from but they either won't or cannot implement them. We have walking rpograms each day but only the patients that are close by will come. We have deals at Curves for our patients so they can exercise cheaply there but they don't go. We have free nutrition group series twice a year to help people change diet but the same ones come each time and benefit and most don't show. We cannot fix this. But we keep trying where we can at our practice.

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May 8, 2008
 
Pati wrote:
Starting psychiatric drugs can be tragic too. The problem is that when you go to a Dr all they want to do is give you drugs. The side effects are sometimes worse than the actual disorder and it seems that once taken the problem worsens. Though I have been depressed over the years for various reasons, I have avoided the RX method of treatment out of fear.. I had a sister who suffered from several psychological issues, the drugs gave some relief to the symptoms but caused others and as they changed the meds and rediagonsed her with other things I swear the switching of meds caused them. She would stop and they would try different things. Never did any Dr tell her to change eating or excerise or organic types of treatment. My ex was also BI-polar, I strongly believe it was caused by a chemical imbalance due to drug use that brought about the end result. He was a hard working likeable guy, but he was a binger, and a self mediator. The Drs knew this and still gave him so many different drugs to not only control the bipolar disorder but the symptoms caused by the meds as well. It is a nice idea to think you write a RX and the person will follow it to the letter, but these people are suffering from mental issues that affect their brain and do not for various reasons always take the meds. Drs need to be more responsible for monitoring the patient through the course of time. It is too easy to label someone with something and write an Rx and be done. How many people are misdiagnosed every day and put on drugs that affect their brains. It saddens me when something like this happens. I can not imagine what is going through the mind of someone who commits such acts, but I know that it is a cross over of the brains wiring system that removes people from reality and causes every emotion form rage to love to go off the charts. I have lost two very special people in the last 5 years that suffered from bipolar disorder and were medicated through the years but never helped.
Thanks for sharing here and I am sorry to read about your loss.

This is why people need to understand that therapy/treatment is the larger and most important part in working towards their well being. Medications alone will never solve mental health issues.

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