Barr launches generic Actiq

Barr launches generic Actiq

There are 165 comments on the Newscom story from Sep 27, 2006, titled Barr launches generic Actiq. In it, Newscom reports that:

Barr said Wednesday it has launched a generic version of Cephalon's Actiq, which is used for managing cancer pain.

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Pawnee

Houston, TX

#153 May 28, 2012
Medicaid just denied my actiqs, which I was afraid was going to happen after everything I had read on here. I am trying to get my Dr to resend it in and have it reevaluated.
This is so crazy. I have problems with swallowing pills and the way they react with my stomach. Just when I thought that I might be able to start an online business because I was beginning to feel better from getting much better pain relief, I get denied after 2 years of being on it. You think they would see what a benefit it is to you before they yank you off. I am only on my duragesics now and nothing for break thru. I'm back to laying in my bed just about all day moaning and screaming. I believe a lot of this is coming because of the obamacare they are getting ready for. They are trying to cut expenses everywhere they can, and anyone who is a bleed on the economy, they would rather get rid of. That is why they promote ending your life. There are a lot of ways to help our pain if they would allow it and I can see why people want to end their lives, they can't get the help they need with their pain, but yet they say they have ways to help your pain. Yes they have ways but they don't want to give it to you, better to get rid of you than to cost the government a lot of money. It doesn't make sense though when like me, I was starting to feel better with the actiq and was looking forward to eventually getting off of disability and medicaid, if I could find an insurance company that would cover the actiq.
I am going to be petitioning the attorney general and my senate for it. We do have rights but they know we are week, tired, and have so much pain that it is almost impossible for us to fight them. Is their no one who could help take up our cause, because this is an outrage for our country.
Here in Texas they have medicaid on HMO's in the bigger cities but the prescriptions still had to go through the regular medicaid. They have just changed this up to where the HMO's are now controlling the prescriptions and I believe this is where I got denied. They had to add more bureaucracy to give the lobbyist more jobs for their people and companies.
This is not the end of it for me. I will keep fighting even to the end of my breath. This is just not right. Yeah, they say you can get it still but you have to buy it yourself. What a farce when it is so expensive and the generic for me would be about $4,000.

Since: May 09

Water Mill, New York

#154 May 30, 2012
Lets see, let me try to answer the different questions, No they don't make actiq at the compounding pharmacy. and yes the 500 mcg has worked as an equivilent to the 800 mcg tabs. If you can afford the $200 it is so worth it. It is tough for me on disablility, but I can't do with out it.
JoJO, you and I are saying the same thing if you are taking 800 mcg fentora or 1400 mcg actiq , the fentora is stronger that is why they don't give you 1400mcg, it would knock you on your butt. I have done alot of research on the two drugs, and I swear to you, the fentora is stronger.

Pawnee, I wish you so much luck, fighting these bastards, who have know idea what pain is. I fought as far as I could in my state and got the same answer, "its for cancer pain" I wanted to scream.Pain is pain. Good luck, Go get 'em!!

Teetee

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#155 May 31, 2012
So sorry to hear about your issue Pawnee. The whole situation just sucks. Like you said, the body doesn't recognize different types of pain. These pencil pushers who make these decisions ought to tell a burn victim that their pain is less than a cancer patient. Bastards.

Since you can't get your pops, are you having to go without, or has your Doc switched you over to something else?

You might look into getting the pops compounded like many of us do. Granted, you have to pay cash for them and not covered by insurance, but they are at least affordable. Like you said, who in the heck can afford the $4,000 for brand or generic for that matter (same price at my pharmacy). I actually like the compounded pops better than the standard Actiq.

Best of luck to you and I hope you win the fight!! Keep fighting my friend!

Take care.
JoJo

Philadelphia, PA

#156 Jun 1, 2012
Teetee:
I am so sorry! I agree that Fentora is stronger than Actiq. I can't seem to get my brain to say what I mean!!! Just one more of the symptoms that make it so I can't hold a job!

I was very careful when I chose Bravo Health. I called twice and was assured Actiq would be covered with no preauth. I checked medicare.gov and it states that they cover Actiq, no preauth, but quantity restrictions. I tried to explain to them that making me try Methadone, Morphine Sulfate ER and NOW fentanyl patch is comparing apples to oranges. I need BTP medication. I have to fail at least 2. I tried methadone and the patches are fine for long acting, but I need the Actiq for BTP. Fentora is a definite NO as it is not on their formulary. Insurance companies do not realize what they are doing to our bodies and minds by having us take strong opiates for at least 30 days and then go off them and try another for at least thirty days..........

I told them(ins co) my son was getting married October 13th and it is my only responsibility. I have major depression, general anxiety disorder, agoraphobia and PTSD. That is a bonus to go with my physical disablities. After his wedding I have no other reason to exist as I cannot leave my house and am completely alone. I lay in bed in pain and am up all night. She feigned compassion and said she was sending me to a manager. My call was disconnected and within seconds I had a police officer at my door asking if I was suicidal as my ins co called them and said they denied my medication and I was suicidal. I told him what I said and added that I have an extra bedroom if he wanted to hang around until October 14th. He found no humor in that. When I told my doc yesterday he said, "Just like an insurance co. They think you are suicidal so they send the police, not a social worker or counselor. He said if I told them I needed a loaf of bread the insurance co would have sent me a butcher!" BTW...I am not at all suicidal. I would however not have a problem if I didn't wake up. I would never do that to my son. They don't see us as people. We are dollar signs and insignificant. My doctor actually provided me with a page with info for a compound pharmacy, but I don't recognize any of the medications. I tried Bryce, but they don't really want to do it. I assume I should have said I needed a dose that wasn't available or something, but I couldn't think of anything that made sense, so I just told the truth. Fentanyl is the only med that works for 2 of my symptoms. They were great and very compassionate. The 2 pharmacists discussed my case and didn't think they could help me, but stated they were more than happy to talk to my doc, so it isn't completely off the table. My situation was more of a question as to the form (cream) and whether it could be effective. Sorry so long.Pawnee I am so sorry you are in this situation. Good luck to everyone. I feel better knowing there are other people like me.(But more sane)lol

MBA43...you are the BESTEST!
JoJo

Philadelphia, PA

#157 Jun 1, 2012
Pawnee:

There is something called SHIP. I believe it is like an insurance commissioner that helps with medicare issues. If you go to medicare.gov it will be listed. They will listen to you and provide you with your local (county) APPRISE representative. I am trying to do this now. The number for SHIP (I just looked it up quick) is 800-783-7067. I do not know what they can or cannot do, but from everything I read, they should help or provide someone who can. Worth a try, right, Hun? If you are like me...I am just laying in bed crying or groaning. I have left 4 msgs. In her defense she just came back from vacation, so my messages were probably just 4 of many...I will keep you updated.

Please try the 800 number so you can get your rep! I am thinking of you and sending good thoughts!!!

Since: May 09

Water Mill, New York

#158 Jun 1, 2012
oops, my bad! I gues you can get the actiq from compounding pharms. just not mine. sorry.

Since: May 09

Water Mill, New York

#159 Jun 1, 2012
JOJO,
There is a website called http://www.inspire.com/ it is a great website. It has a group for EVERYTHING! you can go on there and start a new conversation about how you hate pharmaceutical companies or Insurance companies, or how your son is getting married. Post in the middle of the night and someone will write back to you. It is amazzing. You can post on an old thread. Give it a try. teetee

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#160 Jun 1, 2012
I know of a compounding pharmacy that will make the pops for you, assuming your Doc is on board. Everything must be above board and 100 legit. Post your email and I will contact you if interested.

God Bless.

Since: Apr 12

Location hidden

#161 Jun 10, 2012
I got a card from my Doc since ins won't pay for the Actiq 1800. With the card I pay $500 a box. The problem is I went to 15 pharmacies and no one would accept it. Finally I gave up and my Doc found a pharmacy for me A little far away but I now get my 4 boxes a month. It still is expensive ($2000 for 4 boxes) but much cheaper then no card
JoJo

Mahanoy Plane, PA

#162 Jun 12, 2012
$2000 is more money than I have coming in a month. I am on low income disability. I don't know how y'all afford it. Actually $2000 is double what I have to live on with rent, utilities, food, etc. I live alone no husband to assist in finances. If it isn't covered by insurance...I am out.
Deet

Honesdale, PA

#163 Jun 25, 2012
I just tonight (2:28 A.M.) found this conversation about Actiq.
Maybe MBA or JO could help me or ANYBODY.
I have been taking Actiq (now the generic for two years) the 600mg dosage since I had unsuccessful knee RECONSTRUCTION (not replacement) That's when they break your bones apart and try to make them "realign" in the knee socket and move correctly. I was SO happy to think this would help me and planned on having my left knee done as well. As I said it was not successful and then I had MORE pain than before. Unbelievably, while on crutches recovering with non-weight-bearing on the operated leg I suddenly was diagnosed with
Stage 3C Ovarian cancer! After two bouts with chemo I finally got this under control but the pain was SO much worse. I was fortunate enough to get the partner of the famous (he was on Oprah!) Dr. Stamatos' partner to prescribe Actiq. I was ready to try any;thing, I had gone through SO many things to help~Cymbalta, Lyrica, anti-depressants,...)
I wasn't depressed only concerned that every step was PAINFUL. Finally he prescribed Actiq (as it was fairly new then I guess~8 years ago) IT IS THE ONLY THING THAT WORKS AND GETS ME UP AND AROUND. wE MOVED TO pA. FROM lONG iSLAND AND i COULDN'T FIND A PAIN DOCTOR HERE WHO EVEN KNEW ABOUT aCTIQ! sO, MY POOR HUSBAND HAD TO DRIVE ME TO lONG iSLAND EVERY MONTH JUST TO GET A SCRIP AND THEN WE'D TURN AROUND AND GO backTO pA. A 2 1?2 HOUR TRIP!
When I was being seen by my new oncologist, Dr. S, he said HE COULD PRESCRIBE Actiq for me and save me going ALL THE WAY BACK TO MY ORIGINAL DOCTOR on Long Island. We were elated!!! It was wonderful for us!
Well, last December (2011) he moved to Florida and suddenly I had to pick a "new" oncologist from the practice. I chose one of the female doctors. She feels "VERY UNCOMFORTABLE" prescribing the Aqtiq whjoch has been working for me for YEARS. Personally I KNOW she is scared about it because she doesn't want to "get in trouble" with her position as a doctor (she is young mom) So SUDDENLY she gives me something called Tramadol. She said it EXACTLY the same as Actiq. I don't think so. To me it's like taking a baby asperin.
I just DREAD having to go BACK to the trips to Long Island! I HAVE the ACTIQ KUST WAITING TO BE PICKED UP AT THE PHARMACY it's the doctor I am having trouble with.
DOES ANYONE KNOW WHAT I CAN DO TO GET HER TO GIVE ME THE PRESCRIPTION THE OTHER DOCTOR IN THE PRACTICE GAVE ME?
You ALL seem so knowlegeable and nice I hope AMEONE can tell me what to do?
THANKS!

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#164 Jun 26, 2012
Hello Deet. Sorry to hear about your issue w/ your new Dr. You're probably correct in that she is "scared" to Rx the med. But, it makes no sense to me because (1) she's in Oncology and (2) it's "approved" for cancer victims. Usually Actiq issues are the opposite....Rx'd "off label" for some condition, and a Doc won't Rx it anymore.

I don't think there is anything you can do to make her Rx it other than plead with her that you've been "stabilized" for a long time and taking you off the med would, or already has done, great harm. After all, Docs all take the oath of "do no harm" and she has violated that oath immensely. Furthermore, she has lied to you in grand proportion about Tramadol. To say it's exactly like Actiq is like comparing a hand gun to a cannon. Trams aren't even "controlled"....aren 't considered a narcotic. Meanwhile, as you probably know, Actiq, or fentanyl, is the strongest opioid on the market.....100x more powerful than morphine. I could not, would not, trust any Dr that lied to me that blatantly. You might try calling her out on it and letting her know you've done your research and that Actiq is approved for cancer victims....And see if that does anything. Is there anyone else in the partnership / clinic that you could see?

Otherwise, you probably should get back to your Doc in Long Island ASAP whereas not to lose that connection. I know it's an awful drive, but perhaps you can ask if they will write you two months worth of scripts to save you a drive every month. After all, you were stabilized on the med and on it for many, many years. This practice of post dated scripts is fully legal and endorsed by the FDA and DEA. In fact, you can obtain up to three months, or 90 days, worth of scripts in one visit. The only requirement is that the 2nd and 3rd month be postdated....I.e the first Rx says Jan1, the second says "do not fill until Jan 31st (30 days worth) and the 3rd one would say "do not fill until March 1st (30 days again).

Your other option is to ask your Doc in Long Island to see if they can call, or know of any Doc in your area, or somewhere fairly close that will Rx this for you and maybe he could put a good word in on your behalf. Dr. referrals and recommendations are huge (vs a patient just making an appointment).

Hope this works for you. I'm very sorry you are having to go through this ordeal. If you don't mind me asking, I assume you went into withdrawal when she switched you from Actiq to Tramadol. How did you cope with it?

Take care and God Bless!
Deet

Honesdale, PA

#165 Jun 29, 2012
Hi (again) MBA43.

I wrote you a whole big reply but I don't see it on this site?!
I HOPE I did the right thing sending it?
Maybe it takes time to get on here (I HOPE!)
Wow, I will REALLY be disappointed if it didn't "take" and get shown here.:(
Well, I will check later.
THANKS SO MUCH FOR YOUR FEEDBACK<MBA43!
If I don't see it on later, I will try to remember all I saiod and rewrite it, OK MBA43?
I am not very saavy when it comes to computers.
Thanks for understanding!
Deet

Since: Apr 12

Location hidden

#166 Jun 29, 2012
Deet wrote:
Hi (again) MBA43.
I wrote you a whole big reply but I don't see it on this site?!
I HOPE I did the right thing sending it?
Maybe it takes time to get on here (I HOPE!)
Wow, I will REALLY be disappointed if it didn't "take" and get shown here.:(
Well, I will check later.
THANKS SO MUCH FOR YOUR FEEDBACK<MBA43!
If I don't see it on later, I will try to remember all I saiod and rewrite it, OK MBA43?
I am not very saavy when it comes to computers.
Thanks for understanding!
Deet
Deet

Why go all the way to L.I.? Some of the best pain docs in the country are in NYC and Actiq Is very common here. I have never met a pain dos that does not prescribe it
JoJo

Frackville, PA

#167 Jul 3, 2012
Deet wrote:
I just tonight (2:28 A.M.) found this conversation about Actiq.
Maybe MBA or JO could help me or ANYBODY.
I have been taking Actiq (now the generic for two years) the 600mg dosage since I had unsuccessful knee RECONSTRUCTION (not replacement) That's when they break your bones apart and try to make them "realign" in the knee socket and move correctly. I was SO happy to think this would help me and planned on having my left knee done as well. As I said it was not successful and then I had MORE pain than before. Unbelievably, while on crutches recovering with non-weight-bearing on the operated leg I suddenly was diagnosed with
Stage 3C Ovarian cancer! After two bouts with chemo I finally got this under control but the pain was SO much worse. I was fortunate enough to get the partner of the famous (he was on Oprah!) Dr. Stamatos' partner to prescribe Actiq. I was ready to try any;thing, I had gone through SO many things to help~Cymbalta, Lyrica, anti-depressants,...)
I wasn't depressed only concerned that every step was PAINFUL. Finally he prescribed Actiq (as it was fairly new then I guess~8 years ago) IT IS THE ONLY THING THAT WORKS AND GETS ME UP AND AROUND. wE MOVED TO pA. FROM lONG iSLAND AND i COULDN'T FIND A PAIN DOCTOR HERE WHO EVEN KNEW ABOUT aCTIQ! sO, MY POOR HUSBAND HAD TO DRIVE ME TO lONG iSLAND EVERY MONTH JUST TO GET A SCRIP AND THEN WE'D TURN AROUND AND GO backTO pA. A 2 1?2 HOUR TRIP!
When I was being seen by my new oncologist, Dr. S, he said HE COULD PRESCRIBE Actiq for me and save me going ALL THE WAY BACK TO MY ORIGINAL DOCTOR on Long Island. We were elated!!! It was wonderful for us!
Well, last December (2011) he moved to Florida and suddenly I had to pick a "new" oncologist from the practice. I chose one of the female doctors. She feels "VERY UNCOMFORTABLE" prescribing the Aqtiq whjoch has been working for me for YEARS. Personally I KNOW she is scared about it because she doesn't want to "get in trouble" with her position as a doctor (she is young mom) So SUDDENLY she gives me something called Tramadol. She said it EXACTLY the same as Actiq. I don't think so. To me it's like taking a baby asperin.
I just DREAD having to go BACK to the trips to Long Island! I HAVE the ACTIQ KUST WAITING TO BE PICKED UP AT THE PHARMACY it's the doctor I am having trouble with.
DOES ANYONE KNOW WHAT I CAN DO TO GET HER TO GIVE ME THE PRESCRIPTION THE OTHER DOCTOR IN THE PRACTICE GAVE ME?
You ALL seem so knowlegeable and nice I hope AMEONE can tell me what to do?
THANKS!
I understand how you feel. It takes me 2 hours to drive to my doctor. So...evry month I have that 4 hour drive. I was going to try to find a doctor closer, but I don't think I want to start over. I am not fully happy since he halfed my meds. He evidently is afrais of the Actiq, as well. My insurance company wants me to try Morphine Sulfate ER 200mgs. If my meds do not start working, I may have to try that. I was on 1400 MCG Actiq and 125 mcgs duragesic patch before I lost benefits. I went off the patch and took 800 mcg fentora. Now that I have my insurance fixed my doc has me on 50 mcg duragesic and 800mcg Actiq. I was also taking methadone, but I wasn't comfortable with it, so I quit taking it. Right now, as much as I hate driving, I will drive the 4 hours.I checked where you are located in PA...my doctor would be more than twice as far as you are driving to NY to your doctor. Good luck!!! I wish doctors would have to suffer our pain just for one day, so they understand.
rab694

Lancaster, PA

#168 Jul 23, 2012
has anyone been told by their pharmacies about a shortage of actiq lozenges? my husbands insurance pays for them, but this week we were told by the pharmacy that they are having a great deal of trouble finding distributers that have them. they told us it was because of a national shortage.
JoJo

Mahanoy Plane, PA

#169 Jul 25, 2012
rab694 wrote:
has anyone been told by their pharmacies about a shortage of actiq lozenges? my husbands insurance pays for them, but this week we were told by the pharmacy that they are having a great deal of trouble finding distributers that have them. they told us it was because of a national shortage.
This is my opinion. Because of the new REMS program that has been put into effect, the doctors, the pharmacists and patients have to jump through hoops. Docs and pharmacists have to go through training and patients have to be registered. It took 4 tried for me to find a pharmacy that has Actiq. It took 3 hours to fill, as the TIRF(sp) program that controls this could not find my records. Now, instead of just fentanyl, it will include any long acting opiates. Ex: Methadone, Morphine Sulfate ER, Dilaudid....I am willing to bet that is the issue.

Since: Aug 12

United States

#170 Aug 12, 2012
JoJo wrote:
<quoted text>
This is my opinion. Because of the new REMS program that has been put into effect, the doctors, the pharmacists and patients have to jump through hoops. Docs and pharmacists have to go through training and patients have to be registered. It took 4 tried for me to find a pharmacy that has Actiq. It took 3 hours to fill, as the TIRF(sp) program that controls this could not find my records. Now, instead of just fentanyl, it will include any long acting opiates. Ex: Methadone, Morphine Sulfate ER, Dilaudid....I am willing to bet that is the issue.
I haven't been able to find a single doctor willing to prescribe Actiq/OTFC or any other TIRF (transmucosal immediate release fentanyl) since the REMS program went into place (actually, my doctors preemptively said they would not longer prescribe it three and six months before the 3/12/12 deadline). I am lucky enough to have inoperable, terminal brain cancer, so (after months of fighting) my PDP (Part D Plan) agreed to cover it.

I've SERIOUSLY considered suicide on multiple occasions since my doctors abandoned me and I lost my lifeline.
JoJo

Scranton, PA

#171 Aug 13, 2012
BrainCancerPain wrote:
<quoted text>
I haven't been able to find a single doctor willing to prescribe Actiq/OTFC or any other TIRF (transmucosal immediate release fentanyl) since the REMS program went into place (actually, my doctors preemptively said they would not longer prescribe it three and six months before the 3/12/12 deadline). I am lucky enough to have inoperable, terminal brain cancer, so (after months of fighting) my PDP (Part D Plan) agreed to cover it.
I've SERIOUSLY considered suicide on multiple occasions since my doctors abandoned me and I lost my lifeline.
When Cephalon quit paying amd providing my Fentora, I advised them that just stopping someone who has been on this medication for 5-6 years, was dangerous and stated that I could have seizures or perhaps die. I stated statistics on people who are left with no alternatives for pain. I got a call 3 moths later asking if I had an allergic reaction to Fentora. I stated no. The gentlman then brought up my comments to Cephalon. I stated I would NEVER hurt myself, my question to Cephalon was were they hurting me. Just trying to make a rational(I thought) point. This was TIRF part of the REMS program. This week I got a letter in the mail from the makers of my generic actiq (forget name, as I got a different generic this month). It states that they heard I had an allergic reaction to ACTIQ. They want my doctor's name and phone number. This is getting ridiculous. I haven't called them back yet.

My point is do not tell the pharmacies, or insurance companies that sometimes you feel like hurting yourself. They will not care or feel guilty that they are not helping you relieve your pain. They will use it as an excuse NOT to provide your meds. The latest articles in the pain med news magazines are presenting the possibility that people with depression are more likely to abuse their meds and take more than they should. Thank you Dr. Drew for making chronic pain patients all drug addicts.
teeteeme

La Fayette, NY

#172 Aug 16, 2012
JoJo, I totally agree. Dr. Drew is an A_s_ le. He knows nothing about chronic pain as unfortunealtly is the case with most doctors. It is pathetic.I have been blessed with a fantastic pain dr. for the past 18 yrs. Problem is he is getting up there towards the retirement years.
Again, for anyone who can afford around $200 month you can go to a compounding pharmacy, of course your dr has to be willing to write the script. but I would rather not eat then go with out my fentora lozengers, they make life bearable.
If you live in an apt. look into senior living facilities. They can help you get a HUGE reduction in your rent. Okay, so I am the youngest by 40 years. But I also live in a beautiful apt and only pay under $200 month in rent. You just have to show them all your expenses (medical, perscription etc.) well worth the effort. I found out about this thru a friend in the family. and to Brain Cancer Pain, I am so sorry for what you are going thru. I will keep you in my prayers. God Bless.

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