New Rules For Virginia Sex Offenders?

New Rules For Virginia Sex Offenders?

There are 104 comments on the WUSA Washington, DC story from Nov 8, 2007, titled New Rules For Virginia Sex Offenders?. In it, WUSA Washington, DC reports that:

CHESAPEAKE, Va. -- Chesapeake leaders want to add community centers, parks and maybe even libraries to the list of places that sex offenders can't approach.

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A mom

Kill Devil Hills, NC

#83 Sep 11, 2011
Ocean56 wrote:
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Chesapeake, VA [and other small towns across the country] is starting to sound a lot like Bakersfield CA in the 1980's. Hundreds of people were falsely accused, tried and convicted of sex crimes which as it turned out, NEVER took place! If you want to find out more about this travesty, which is resurfacing in many other places including Chesapeake, google "Bakersfield CA witch hunt." You'll get many hits, and the information is deeply disturbing.
There are people who deliberately ratchet up the level of panic and hysteria about "sex offenders" and "child molesters" just as the prosecutor in Bakersfield, CA did, to create their own little "crime wave." Certainly kept law enforcement officials busy for a while didn't it...locking up the WRONG PEOPLE.
Ocean
IMAGINARY gods have NO jurisdiction
http://www.fija.org
Ocean is right. I know a person this happen to. In the case I am speaking of it was a way to keep his child from ever seeing him. It was a divorce and the womens family came up with a story and what a guarantee there again to keep the child away from her father. O ya, it was the 15 year old sister-in-law that accused . It was (she said he said) that was the evidence. So prosecutor made a deal last min. Lawyers advised the father to take it. So now he is a convicted sex offender. The family got what they wanted, there again to keep the father out or there lives.
sick of paying

Elyria, OH

#84 Sep 12, 2011
Silvia wrote:
I am unnerved how little time the police puts into actually reserching a case. A friend of mine was accused of molestation by a child he did not even know. The police never checked into this girls background but offered my friend a deal. You admit to the crime and you get 6 month in jail or it will go to court where we will ask for 17 years. Without money for a good lawyer my friens life is totally ruined. He is branded for the rest of his life as a sex offender without any proof at all. We have released murderers in our mids but they are welcome in our communities. As a foreigner I am discusted with these US laws.
If you are so discusted with OUR LAWS, go back to your own country.
tanftx

Lewisburg, PA

#85 Oct 30, 2011
in the texarkana area, you can be a state worker with no criminal record. you can be efficient at your job. what turns out to be a news published serial offender pastor can be bringing your character into question with false LGBT accusations the same time his diocese is pulled into a lawsuit for his 14 child 40 count past activities. and you are the one held under disapproval for trying to report and protect yourself from admittably a rare crime.

this person invades privacy, damanges employability, incites xstians to harass on false LGBT accusations, and if you slip for a second and say what you would really like to do well that would certainly get you into serious trouble. meanwhile this serial offender can just cross the line outrageously and your only option instead of getting a complaint filed is being told to pay $200/hour legal fees so some lawyer on commission can humiliate you pubically through the news media the whole time you have been trying to avoid attention and publicity. since its a state job and the state can do no wrong, anyone in official authority frowns at your persistance in getting any kind of justice.
Sharon

Mechanicsville, VA

#86 Nov 9, 2011
angryin MD wrote:
I honestly think that people go a little overboard. Yes, sexual offendors do "hunt" for children in public places. But children aren't always the victims, adults can be too. What about those that have been reformed? Or what about those who are wrongly named "sexual offendors", or have been given that name if they were adolescents at the time of their so called wrong doing with another adolescent. These people are subjected to having to "air" their "dirty laundry" and aren't truely predators/offendors. NOW, you want to take parks and libraries away? Give me a break. They did wrong, they did their time for their crime. Libraries are necessary for some, especially if they have been reformed, they need access to gain employment, the library is a good way to get on the internet. And at the libraries internet activities are monitored constantly. Parks, I hate to say this, but sexual offendors can be be found anywhere and they go everywhere.........SO why don't you just ban them from every possible place on this earth!!!!
I agree this is not fair and just.
Sharon

Mechanicsville, VA

#87 Nov 9, 2011
They need tp change the laws so one time offfenders are notlisted on the registry . I am being labled as a violent person and nothing pyhiscally violent happened in my situation, the state is dumb,.

Since: May 08

Long Beach, California

#88 Nov 9, 2011
The problem is that in today's current society fueled by the media, sex offenders are protrayed as "uncurable", constant preditors, not to EVER be trusted and are unforgivable.

Society is currently living under a constant state of sexual hysteria where everyone is suspect. For every new offense that get's national attention, new laws get made, fear and hatred is reenforced and the constitution starts to mean less.

So as far as society is concerned, they don't care if it was not violent, if it was consentual, an accident or you just didn't use good judgment, or if the case was just an isolated event, it don't matter because at the end of day, society wants venges.

Pure and simple.

Since: May 08

Long Beach, California

#89 Nov 9, 2011
Just to add one more thing, people will NOW start to get prosecuted if they KNEW of such an offense and didn't report it.

So even if you were not the one that did the offense, but was suspect and didn't report it? You'd be in trouble these days.
Beach mom

Chesapeake, VA

#90 Dec 27, 2011
This topic is about the protection of our children. Most laws do not allow for individual circumstances. I as a mother of 5 and one who was sexually molested while simply sleeping over a friends house last year is very angry that these predators have more rights then my daughter did when she was being drugged and assaulted by a sick step dad. He only has to serve less then 3 years in jail. His case was fully investigated and 4 victims were discovered in his case. When he gets out next year he will be allowed the right to live wherever he wants, and work where he wants. He will have served his time but I for one am on the side of putting more restrictions on these creeps. Once they are out among our children the recidivism rate for this crime is very hi in percentage. You can't change a child molestor. It's what he is attracted to. My opinion is put them all on their on island and they can molest and rape each other. All he will do once he gets out is be more careful next time he molests a child, and that child could be yours.
Beach mom

Chesapeake, VA

#91 Dec 27, 2011
LB Citizen wrote:
Just to add one more thing, people will NOW start to get prosecuted if they KNEW of such an offense and didn't report it.
So even if you were not the one that did the offense, but was suspect and didn't report it? You'd be in trouble these days.
How can anyone stand around allowing a sex offense. It says alot about their mental status, so yes they as well should be in trouble for allowing what they knew was a heinous crime. The predator gets to walk away sexually gratifide and feeling powerful while the victim spends his/her life in turmoil.
Beach mom

Chesapeake, VA

#92 Dec 27, 2011
Sharon wrote:
They need tp change the laws so one time offfenders are notlisted on the registry . I am being labled as a violent person and nothing pyhiscally violent happened in my situation, the state is dumb,.
The man who drugged and sexually assaulted my daughter was a first offense offender. Or as I put it, it was the first time he was caught. In his case after an investigation 4 victims were found. He will serve less then 3 years in county jail. While drug dealers have a max sentence of 20 yrs to life for dealing drugs. The system is screwed up and I'm all for harsher punishments for the sex crimes.
Beach mom

Chesapeake, VA

#93 Dec 27, 2011
A mom wrote:
<quoted text> Ocean is right. I know a person this happen to. In the case I am speaking of it was a way to keep his child from ever seeing him. It was a divorce and the womens family came up with a story and what a guarantee there again to keep the child away from her father. O ya, it was the 15 year old sister-in-law that accused . It was (she said he said) that was the evidence. So prosecutor made a deal last min. Lawyers advised the father to take it. So now he is a convicted sex offender. The family got what they wanted, there again to keep the father out or there lives.
In my daughters case and the other victims in my case the offender admitted his guilt. He was sentenced to the max but only has to serve less then 5% of it. If there is an admission of guilt without cohersion then limit their ability to be around our children and give them restrictions. Because the next time they do it when they get out of jail (which they always do) they will do what they can to prevent having a victim tell on them.
Beach mom

Chesapeake, VA

#94 Dec 27, 2011
It's high time we protect our children and stop worrying about the adults who "made a bad decision". My child is affected for life, so should her offender. He should be limited to what and where he can go. Who he can live with and how close he can be to a library, park or school with girls of the age of his current victims. He is one person and affected the lives of 4 girls and their families (that we know of). How dare anyone defend him or his rights. As far as I'm concerned he gave up his rites when he took away my daughters rite to safety.
Beach mom

Chesapeake, VA

#95 Dec 27, 2011
sick of paying wrote:
<quoted text>If you are so discusted with OUR LAWS, go back to your own country.
He admitted to guilt instead of fighting, that was his freedom of choice. If I am completely innocent of wrong doing against a child there is no way I would admit to harming one. Your friend sounds guilty. And yes if you dislike our laws so much then you have the freedom and the rite to leave our country.

Since: May 08

Long Beach, California

#96 Dec 28, 2011
Beach mom wrote:
This topic is about the protection of our children. Most laws do not allow for individual circumstances. I as a mother of 5 and one who was sexually molested while simply sleeping over a friends house last year is very angry that these predators have more rights then my daughter did when she was being drugged and assaulted by a sick step dad. He only has to serve less then 3 years in jail. His case was fully investigated and 4 victims were discovered in his case. When he gets out next year he will be allowed the right to live wherever he wants, and work where he wants. He will have served his time but I for one am on the side of putting more restrictions on these creeps. Once they are out among our children the recidivism rate for this crime is very hi in percentage. You can't change a child molestor. It's what he is attracted to. My opinion is put them all on their on island and they can molest and rape each other. All he will do once he gets out is be more careful next time he molests a child, and that child could be yours.
You are mistaken and your facts are very skewed. I am VERY sorry this has happened to your family, but not every sex offender on the restistry is of the same mold. Many are even innocent if you can believe that.

God bless you.

Since: May 08

Long Beach, California

#97 Dec 29, 2011
Beach mom wrote:
<quoted text>
He admitted to guilt instead of fighting, that was his freedom of choice. If I am completely innocent of wrong doing against a child there is no way I would admit to harming one. Your friend sounds guilty. And yes if you dislike our laws so much then you have the freedom and the rite to leave our country.
Here is where you also have it wrong.

Did you know that the average lawyer will do anything not to go to trial? That included talking their clients into admidting guilt?

For many, it's ignorance. They just want the whole thing to be over with so their told to take a plea, because if it does go to trial and if by chance you are found guilty, they get much more prison time.

Also many are incredibly ignorant about what happens AFTER they take a plea. Most have NEVER heard of the sex offender registry or are familiar with laws involving felonies.

Many, particular those who were convicted 20 years ago, there was no internet. So to take a plea, then all of a suddent 20 years later, new laws are implemented. So now, instead of just registering once year, they now have:

Housing restrictions
Job restrictions
Voting restrictions
Loitering restrictions
Travel restrictions

So imagine that you were accused of ...oh, let's say drunk driving. You had two beers, but the cops claim you were driving crazy and you refused a breath test. So you are told to simply claim guilt and that would be the end of it. Get some sort of probation and thats it.

Well imagine 10, 15, 20 years later, you get a letter in them mail stating that you have to register in a Drunk Drivers registry? Then told you have to move because you live to close to a bar or liquor store?

Crazy? yeah, but it's happening here in America.

I'm not trying to make former offenders seem like the only victims but the facts are that many men and woman who took a plea, had no idea what was to come. So unless you are walking in their shoes, it's really no place for judgment.

Again, you'd be surprised exactly how many innocent people take pleas to avoid a trial.
Too Easy

Lincolnton, NC

#98 Dec 29, 2011
You Know what the law is before you do the crime.BOTTOM LINE!I vote hang their a** the first time.Anyone that defends one of these low lifes is a low life in my book.
Beach mom

Chesapeake, VA

#99 Dec 30, 2011
LB Citizen wrote:
<quoted text>
You are mistaken and your facts are very skewed. I am VERY sorry this has happened to your family, but not every sex offender on the restistry is of the same mold. Many are even innocent if you can believe that.
God bless you.
Please tell me what facts I am incorrect about.
Beach mom

Chesapeake, VA

#100 Dec 30, 2011
LB Citizen wrote:
<quoted text>
Here is where you also have it wrong.
Did you know that the average lawyer will do anything not to go to trial? That included talking their clients into admidting guilt?
For many, it's ignorance. They just want the whole thing to be over with so their told to take a plea, because if it does go to trial and if by chance you are found guilty, they get much more prison time.
Also many are incredibly ignorant about what happens AFTER they take a plea. Most have NEVER heard of the sex offender registry or are familiar with laws involving felonies.
Many, particular those who were convicted 20 years ago, there was no internet. So to take a plea, then all of a suddent 20 years later, new laws are implemented. So now, instead of just registering once year, they now have:
Housing restrictions
Job restrictions
Voting restrictions
Loitering restrictions
Travel restrictions
So imagine that you were accused of ...oh, let's say drunk driving. You had two beers, but the cops claim you were driving crazy and you refused a breath test. So you are told to simply claim guilt and that would be the end of it. Get some sort of probation and thats it.
Well imagine 10, 15, 20 years later, you get a letter in them mail stating that you have to register in a Drunk Drivers registry? Then told you have to move because you live to close to a bar or liquor store?
Crazy? yeah, but it's happening here in America.
I'm not trying to make former offenders seem like the only victims but the facts are that many men and woman who took a plea, had no idea what was to come. So unless you are walking in their shoes, it's really no place for judgment.
Again, you'd be surprised exactly how many innocent people take pleas to avoid a trial.
I can place judgement. If you do the right thing then you will be ok. If you choose to drink 2 beers and drive then you get in trouble. If you choose to gratify yourself sexually with a minor then you get in trouble and you will be judged. Being naive is not a defense to a persons stupidty. In my daughters case the offender didn't admit his guilt to get it "over with". The detectives did an enormous investigation and found 4 victims. His own 8 yr old son was present during one of the assaults. They have him on videotape threatening the girls in the case. Oh believe me he did not admit guilt to get it over with, he admitted guilt because he KNEW he would get more prison time if a jury heard all the evidence.

Since: May 08

Long Beach, California

#101 Dec 30, 2011
Beach mom wrote:
<quoted text>
I can place judgement. If you do the right thing then you will be ok. If you choose to drink 2 beers and drive then you get in trouble. If you choose to gratify yourself sexually with a minor then you get in trouble and you will be judged. Being naive is not a defense to a persons stupidty. In my daughters case the offender didn't admit his guilt to get it "over with". The detectives did an enormous investigation and found 4 victims. His own 8 yr old son was present during one of the assaults. They have him on videotape threatening the girls in the case. Oh believe me he did not admit guilt to get it over with, he admitted guilt because he KNEW he would get more prison time if a jury heard all the evidence.
I'm very sorry this has happened to your family. I can absolutely understand your anger. But please try to understand, that their are innocent people on the registry that are not a danger to society. that is all the point I'm trying to make. If your son or daughter was accused, I'm sure you would want compassion to your families plight if the shoe was on the other foot.

I had a sister who was murdered by her fiance'. So I'm very sensitive to domestic violence. so I understand where you are coming from.

Since: May 08

Long Beach, California

#102 Dec 30, 2011
Beach mom wrote:
<quoted text>
Please tell me what facts I am incorrect about.
I'm sorry, I went back and re-read your posts. You were talking specifically about that monster who did that to your family. I was talking more generally about all those who do register and are not a threat or have been innocent.

Again, I can't imagine the kind of pain your family must be going through. Take care.

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