U.S. poverty on track to rise to high...

U.S. poverty on track to rise to highest since 1960s

There are 39 comments on the www.lancastereaglegazette.com story from Jul 23, 2012, titled U.S. poverty on track to rise to highest since 1960s. In it, www.lancastereaglegazette.com reports that:

The ranks of America's poor are on track to climb to levels unseen in nearly half a century, erasing gains from the war on poverty in the 1960s amid a weak economy and fraying government safety net.

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“It's a Brand New Day”

Since: Feb 06

New Rochelle

#21 Jul 23, 2012
Mothra wrote:
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Yegads you're thick!
Yegads you're thick!
Yegads you're thick!
Yup... I'm convinced.
You do get points for Yegads!

“Yeah, but...”

Since: Sep 11

MILKY WAY

#22 Jul 23, 2012
Mr_Bill wrote:
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The GOP did all they could to roadblock "single payer" and wold have stopped all health care if they could.
It may have escaped you, but they didn't do that for "us."
They did it for their real clients, the insurance industry.
Time to grow up, Peter Pan.
Pardon me?
The GOP couldn't road block anything with both houses of Congress controlled by the Democrats. Be logical. How could they stop single payer (as you claim) but not OBAMACARE? The truth is even the Democrats didn't want single payer. Here's another bit of truth to munch on: there was never a time when even 50% of Americans wanted Obamacare. Not before, not during not now.
This was crisis dreamt up by the Democrats for purely political purposes.

The first election following the enactment of this ill-conceived law, the Democrats got shellacked. They got shellacked event though they ran as fast as they could away from it.

Now, they are scrambling to figure out how to say it's a good thing. The OBAMACARE law gutted Medicaid, thereby making it more difficult for the working poor to get access to healthcare. Oh they still have to pay for it, though. Yes indeed. They gotta pay, and pay, and pay....
see the light

United States

#23 Jul 23, 2012
Bet Obama's happy about this. More people on foodstamps!
Lowglow

Warrensburg, MO

#24 Jul 23, 2012
Sad thing is I think it's going to get worse.

I know the media is not mentioning this, but food prices have more than doubled in the last 3 years our Economy is failing, we still have thee million home owners that are living in distressed homes that will soon lose thier homes our national debt is up, we cant stay out of other nations business, we just keep sending them war materials and money more than anytime since WW2. We are our own worst enemies.
John

Elk Grove Village, IL

#25 Jul 23, 2012
I thought Obama was going to fix this. What the heck anyway. He is 'the' community organizer isn't he? He is doing a lousy job.

Since: Jul 07

Newport News, VA

#26 Jul 23, 2012
hey, unemployment is up to 40% for young african americans. but obama has been focused like a laser on jobs. i wonder what happens when he takes his eye off the ball?(like now, when he is campaigning!) of course, all of those unemployed youth will vote for obama, because he will fight for them. just like he did for solyndra!

“It's a Brand New Day”

Since: Feb 06

New Rochelle

#27 Jul 24, 2012
SirPrize wrote:
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Pardon me?
The GOP couldn't road block anything with both houses of Congress controlled by the Democrats. Be logical. How could they stop single payer (as you claim) but not OBAMACARE? The truth is even the Democrats didn't want single payer. Here's another bit of truth to munch on: there was never a time when even 50% of Americans wanted Obamacare. Not before, not during not now.
This was crisis dreamt up by the Democrats for purely political purposes.
The first election following the enactment of this ill-conceived law, the Democrats got shellacked. They got shellacked event though they ran as fast as they could away from it.
Now, they are scrambling to figure out how to say it's a good thing. The OBAMACARE law gutted Medicaid, thereby making it more difficult for the working poor to get access to healthcare. Oh they still have to pay for it, though. Yes indeed. They gotta pay, and pay, and pay....
They stopped it by voting it down.
There were enough Democratic votes to pass the 'watered down' version which favors the insurance companys.

If the GOP had voted for single payer, even if just a few broke rannnnks, we would have a much better, much less costly program, than the new one.
Mothra

Peoria, AZ

#28 Jul 24, 2012
Mr_Bill wrote:
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They stopped it by voting it down.
There were enough Democratic votes to pass the 'watered down' version which favors the insurance companys.
If the GOP had voted for single payer, even if just a few broke rannnnks, we would have a much better, much less costly program, than the new one.
According to a Gallup poll most people believe the government wastes 51% of the dollars it collects.

How then could a system that costs twice as much give you a "much less costly program", much less "better"?

“It all about money”

Since: Oct 08

st louis

#29 Jul 24, 2012
Lowglow wrote:
Sad thing is I think it's going to get worse.
I know the media is not mentioning this, but food prices have more than doubled in the last 3 years our Economy is failing, we still have thee million home owners that are living in distressed homes that will soon lose thier homes our national debt is up, we cant stay out of other nations business, we just keep sending them war materials and money more than anytime since WW2. We are our own worst enemies.
why dont we put a name to the problem??

capitalism = profit margin = eliminate expense increase margin. the new motto of corporations.

Ford motor company built a major company based on the premise that if they had a workforce that could afford their product they would do good business. That is history.

CEO's must now make millions due to the fact they bought a piece of paper called a degree. this degree did not tell them that without that paying workforce they would eventually have no customers. Im not sure but I dont think Henry Ford had a degree in stupid.

“It's a Brand New Day”

Since: Feb 06

New Rochelle

#30 Jul 24, 2012
Mothra wrote:
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According to a Gallup poll most people believe the government wastes 51% of the dollars it collects.
How then could a system that costs twice as much give you a "much less costly program", much less "better"?
Ask someone who has Medicare, and someone with private health insurance that question, dumbo.

And try harder.
Mothra

Peoria, AZ

#31 Jul 24, 2012
Mr_Bill wrote:
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Ask someone who has Medicare, and someone with private health insurance that question, dumbo.
And try harder.
Try answering the question...

How then could a system that costs twice as much give you a "much less costly program", much less "better"?

“It's a Brand New Day”

Since: Feb 06

New Rochelle

#32 Jul 24, 2012
Mothra wrote:
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Try answering the question...
How then could a system that costs twice as much give you a "much less costly program", much less "better"?
What are you talking about now, I have no idea?

The US Army "... costs twice as much give you a "much less costly program", than who, IBM?

The USAF "... costs twice as much give you a "much less costly program", than who, Ro9mney's sleazy bone-pickin' corporation?

What?
Mothra

Peoria, AZ

#33 Jul 24, 2012
Mr_Bill wrote:
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What are you talking about now, I have no idea?
The US Army "... costs twice as much give you a "much less costly program", than who, IBM?
The USAF "... costs twice as much give you a "much less costly program", than who, Ro9mney's sleazy bone-pickin' corporation?
What?
Yegads you're thick!
Yegads you're thick!
Yegads you're thick!

I'm even more convinced.

“Yeah, but...”

Since: Sep 11

MILKY WAY

#34 Jul 24, 2012
Mr_Bill wrote:
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They stopped it by voting it down.
There were enough Democratic votes to pass the 'watered down' version which favors the insurance companys.
If the GOP had voted for single payer, even if just a few broke rannnnks, we would have a much better, much less costly program, than the new one.
Sorry, Bill. We disagree.
You think the Government CAN do things better, and that much I agree on.
But I also know that the Government never WILL do anything better. There is simply no incentive. The bureaucrats put in place to administer the service ultimately believe themselves to be governors of the people rather than their servants. They forget they are there to serve the people. They build walls preventing access to all but their friends and relatives; they dream up and enforce draconian regulations and rules; and literally punish the people they are supposed to be serving. And every year, they claim they need more money and more people to expand their little empire, thereby causing even more pain and suffering each and every year.
As much as you think the GOP is at fault for preventing single payer, I think the GOP should be applauded for it! They know, that it was more an attempt to grow government than an honest attempt to reduce health care costs or improve access to health care. They knew then that the American people didn't want Government run health care -- there was never a time when even 50% of Americans wanted it -- and represented their constituents.
The Democrats also knew the American people didn't want Government run health care but voted it in anyway. They got shellacked for their arrogance, and rightfully so.

“It's a Brand New Day”

Since: Feb 06

New Rochelle

#35 Jul 24, 2012
SirPrize wrote:
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Sorry, Bill. We disagree.
You think the Government CAN do things better, and that much I agree on.
But I also know that the Government never WILL do anything better. There is simply no incentive. The bureaucrats put in place to administer the service ultimately believe themselves to be governors of the people rather than their servants. They forget they are there to serve the people. They build walls preventing access to all but their friends and relatives; they dream up and enforce draconian regulations and rules; and literally punish the people they are supposed to be serving. And every year, they claim they need more money and more people to expand their little empire, thereby causing even more pain and suffering each and every year.
As much as you think the GOP is at fault for preventing single payer, I think the GOP should be applauded for it! They know, that it was more an attempt to grow government than an honest attempt to reduce health care costs or improve access to health care. They knew then that the American people didn't want Government run health care -- there was never a time when even 50% of Americans wanted it -- and represented their constituents.
The Democrats also knew the American people didn't want Government run health care but voted it in anyway. They got shellacked for their arrogance, and rightfully so.
No, Top Paine maintained that we only need government because some need the discipline.

The reason for "BIG GOVERNMENT" today is glossed over; but must be considered. That reason is BIG MULTI-NATIONAL CORPORATIONS.

Too big to fail finance corporations menan we need protection against these amorral entities which need the discipline.

I have over-simplifired these issues because I know you get the concepts; but big business needs big regulation, or we are in big trouble.

Break up the multi-nationals to managable size and then shrink government.

And. I think you read too much Kafka.

“Yeah, but...”

Since: Sep 11

MILKY WAY

#36 Jul 24, 2012
Mr_Bill wrote:
<quoted text>
No, Top Paine maintained that we only need government because some need the discipline.
The reason for "BIG GOVERNMENT" today is glossed over; but must be considered. That reason is BIG MULTI-NATIONAL CORPORATIONS.
Too big to fail finance corporations menan we need protection against these amorral entities which need the discipline.
I have over-simplifired these issues because I know you get the concepts; but big business needs big regulation, or we are in big trouble.
Break up the multi-nationals to managable size and then shrink government.
And. I think you read too much Kafka.
I don't understand this argument.
There have always been big multi-national corporations, at least since this republic was born.
Still, our nation's founders preferred a small, limited federal government.
Big multi-national corporations are not the reason for big government.

“It's a Brand New Day”

Since: Feb 06

New Rochelle

#37 Jul 24, 2012
SirPrize wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't understand this argument.
There have always been big multi-national corporations, at least since this republic was born.
Still, our nation's founders preferred a small, limited federal government.
Big multi-national corporations are not the reason for big government.
No, nothing like the last 20 years.
CONSERVATIVE

Adel, GA

#38 Jul 25, 2012
Yet another nobama accomplishment! Record # of Americans in poverty! Add that to record # of weeks of unemployment over 8%. Record debt. Record # Americans in forclosure. Record # of Americans on foodstamps. 1st ever lose of our triple A credit rating. Add it all up and it equals another 4 years? Only if you're a complete f--king idiot! Revel in the misery! It's all part of the plan! Remember everyone is the EQUAL under socialism, EQUALLY MISERABLE! Tea Party 2012!
CONSERVATIVE

Adel, GA

#39 Jul 25, 2012
katn wrote:
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why dont we put a name to the problem??
capitalism = profit margin = eliminate expense increase margin. the new motto of corporations.
Ford motor company built a major company based on the premise that if they had a workforce that could afford their product they would do good business. That is history.
CEO's must now make millions due to the fact they bought a piece of paper called a degree. this degree did not tell them that without that paying workforce they would eventually have no customers. Im not sure but I dont think Henry Ford had a degree in stupid.
Sounds like your parents got screwed when they paid for your educaation. It does however sound like you paid close attention to you socialist/Marxist professors. America is proof positive that CAPITALISM is the ONLY economic system capable of affording it's citizens the standard of living we ENJOY in America. Name ONE other economic system that affords its citizens the same or better standard of living as us? Not to mention the freedoms and liberties that go with it. How do you think it is that America is able to be so generous to those less fortunate the world over? CAPITALISM and all the evil PROFIT it produces! Pull your head out of your a$$ and see the truth for what it is, because it's obvious you've been buried in bullshyt too long! Tea Party 2012!

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