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Northwest, baggage handler impasse heads to judge

There are 99 comments on the The South Mississippi Sun Herald story from May 14, 2006, titled Northwest, baggage handler impasse heads to judge. In it, The South Mississippi Sun Herald reports that:

Northwest Airlines Corp. couldn't get its baggage handlers to agree to pay cuts, so it's taking them to court.

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bob in allamuchy nj

Dumont, NJ

#1 May 15, 2006
if the judge lets the company throw out the contract and then the federal government says "they cannot strike" - what we have is tantamount to slavery...
i believe that is why bankruptcy judges have never (to my knowledge) thrown out a contract covered under the railway labor act.
NWA freightdog

Eagle River, AK

#2 May 15, 2006
Personally I commend the failure of the ratification, if only the pilots as a majority had the same faith in their membership. To many pilots where scared for their pension values and were willing to sign up for anything to keep it solvent. Unfortunately, their in for a rude awaking when they have their pension @#$tcaned to the PBGC and are stuck with an Industry Leading LowBall Contract!
bob in allamuchy nj wrote:
if the judge lets the company throw out the contract and then the federal government says "they cannot strike" - what we have is tantamount to slavery...
i believe that is why bankruptcy judges have never (to my knowledge) thrown out a contract covered under the railway labor act.
NWARETCAPT

United States

#3 May 15, 2006
NWA freightdog wrote:
Personally I commend the failure of the ratification, if only the pilots as a majority had the same faith in their membership. To many pilots where scared for their pension values and were willing to sign up for anything to keep it solvent. Unfortunately, their in for a rude awaking when they have their pension @#$tcaned to the PBGC and are stuck with an Industry Leading LowBall Contract! <quoted text>
With traffic up and the price of a ticket moving upward, I believe the future of NWA is looking better everyday. The concessionary contracts (nothing new about these) will certainly help the airline recover and NWA still has one of the most enviable route structures in the industry.

I believe the company will fund the pension plans (not just the pilots') in a manner that the congress allows, if they (the congress) act on it. Why? Because if NWA doesn't, they will be under scrutiny, once again, by others who will want to know why they didn't hold up their end of the bargain. I doubt that the management at NWA wants to come under the magnifying glass of the SEC right out of bankruptcy.

As a former, long time (34 years) employee and now retiree, I truly support the employees at NWA. I paid many years of dues, walked the picket line, and did what union members do in times of difficult negotiations. I, too, have felt gut wrentching frustration during those times and others, when my future and that of my collegues looked pretty bleak. But I sense this to be a different kind of challenge you all face. I have never heard the vitriol like I have read here. I only hope you can, somehow, reverse this negative energy and use it to bring the company, that for so many years supported you, me, former employees, our families, the community and the cities it has served so well, to a new day of properity.
NWARETCAPT

United States

#4 May 15, 2006
The last word is "prosperity".
Larry

Groveport, OH

#5 May 15, 2006
Welcome to the Mechanics world. The Judge will think you are all overpaid and under educated, maybe you will not get anything from the great make believe liberal state of Minn, LOL
nwa dtw ramp

Trenton, MI

#6 May 15, 2006
I hope they shut the doors !!! They can't be trusted!!! I won't work for less money or bennys!! We earn our money day in, day out..
Greg

AOL

#8 May 16, 2006
The plan to hire human scum scab aircraft mechanics was clearly a bad idea. Maintenance cost are going up by the millions every day. What were these head in the sand so called leaders thinking ??? Its time to get their house in order and get our ( REAL) aircraft mechanics back.
CEO

Cathedral City, CA

#9 May 17, 2006
When labor is paid shit wages, the flying public will get shit service. If I were CEO of an airline, I'd work for free until the company was back in the black...
Gizmo

Atlanta, GA

#10 May 17, 2006
Management & Politicians could careless about the working stiff. Slowly but surely we are moving toward a total migrant work force. No benefits,no social security,no insurance, no pensions,& no money left to save. Just work until you drop. No since of owner ship or future. Buy it cheap, get what you pay for. It is the old cast system.
Joyce

Newnan, GA

#11 May 17, 2006
Gizmo wrote:
Management & Politicians could careless about the working stiff. Slowly but surely we are moving toward a total migrant work force. No benefits,no social security,no insurance, no pensions,& no money left to save. Just work until you drop. No since of owner ship or future. Buy it cheap, get what you pay for. It is the old cast system.
You're right, Gizmo. The lawyers & executives win big, and bankruptcy is the tool they use. It's terrible. People should see what's happening in our country. It's an assault and it's not just in the airlines. It's everywhere.
had enough

Huntersville, NC

#12 May 17, 2006
bob in allamuchy nj wrote:
if the judge lets the company throw out the contract and then the federal government says "they cannot strike" - what we have is tantamount to slavery...
i believe that is why bankruptcy judges have never (to my knowledge) thrown out a contract covered under the railway labor act.
Sounds lioke slavery to me. Of course we can quit -27 years thionking Iwas going to get some pension.Wish these crooks could be hold accountable. THEY are making no sacrifices
had enough

Huntersville, NC

#13 May 17, 2006
NWA freightdog wrote:
Personally I commend the failure of the ratification, if only the pilots as a majority had the same faith in their membership. To many pilots where scared for their pension values and were willing to sign up for anything to keep it solvent. Unfortunately, their in for a rude awaking when they have their pension @#$tcaned to the PBGC and are stuck with an Industry Leading LowBall Contract! <quoted text>
Here's what I have been hearing.
The company does not want to turn the pension over to the PBGC. UAL and US Airways did.If NWA keeps it until we are out of bankruptcy they dod not have to turn it over to the PBGC. BUT They can still say that they cannot pay the pension and NWA keeps the money. They learned from UAL ans US Airways. Crooks they are -dumb they are not. Mark M in DC with Steanland(he's riding in his back pocket for convience:):)
It makes me sick. The contract should have been voted down. There is nothing that says that they have to pay our pensions NOTHING. Whoever thinks they are protected and that management will honor it is drinking Mark McClain coolaid!
airline person

San Clemente, CA

#14 May 17, 2006
At the risk of sounding trite, you reap what you sow. NWA management... bad service, bad attitudes and short memories for what service is ( or was) all about is the result of a demoralized, tired, ( physically and mentally) emotionally drained workforce. MANAGEMENT has destroyed the airline industry, not labor, unionized and other wise. Don't give anymore folks. We all must tell every airline CEO...ENOUGH IS SIMPLY ENOUGH. Clean up the management waste first.
one ceo does

Arlington, TX

#15 May 17, 2006
CEO wrote:
When labor is paid shit wages, the flying public will get shit service. If I were CEO of an airline, I'd work for free until the company was back in the black...
David Neeleman of jetblue does just that. he donates his entire salary and didn't take his bonus because his airline lost money.
had enough

Huntersville, NC

#16 May 17, 2006
one ceo does wrote:
<quoted text>David Neeleman of jetblue does just that. he donates his entire salary and didn't take his bonus because his airline lost money.
Hold onto your hats
They have cancelled airplane orders and they have to start paying for the leases they have . it will not be pretty.
With the exception of SWA all of the airlines have bad business plans. in the case of Jet Blue and AirTran they are expanding toooo fast. That is historically a BIG boo boo. The airlines are a mess and until someone puts a few of thesse crooks in jail(along with our butt kissing unions) it will not change.

For those who are interested Dwane Worthless's useless reign is up and there is a vote in OCT.Be sure to make your opinion known to you local LEC chairman.
Just wondering

Lakeville, MN

#17 May 17, 2006
had enough wrote:
<quoted text>
Hold onto your hats
They have cancelled airplane orders and they have to start paying for the leases they have . it will not be pretty.
With the exception of SWA all of the airlines have bad business plans. in the case of Jet Blue and AirTran they are expanding toooo fast. That is historically a BIG boo boo. The airlines are a mess and until someone puts a few of thesse crooks in jail(along with our butt kissing unions) it will not change.
For those who are interested Dwane Worthless's useless reign is up and there is a vote in OCT.Be sure to make your opinion known to you local LEC chairman.
Why don't you find another job if it is this bad? Something you wouldn't have to complain about, or is that not possible?
Just wondering

Lakeville, MN

#18 May 17, 2006
Greg wrote:
The plan to hire human scum scab aircraft mechanics was clearly a bad idea. Maintenance cost are going up by the millions every day. What were these head in the sand so called leaders thinking ??? Its time to get their house in order and get our ( REAL) aircraft mechanics back.
Your so-called "real aircraft mechanics" walked off of their jobs. Why do they deserve to be hired back??? Planes are flying and no accidents, what's your point?
Sara in Memphis

AOL

#19 May 17, 2006
Just wondering wrote:
<quoted text>
Your so-called "real aircraft mechanics" walked off of their jobs. Why do they deserve to be hired back??? Planes are flying and no accidents, what's your point?
Just wondering Are you a "scab"?
nwa employee

United States

#20 May 17, 2006
sounds like a scab
NWALEAD 11

Lakeville, MN

#21 May 17, 2006
SCABS!

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